Re: [H] 2k wireless

2006-12-13 Thread Ben Ruset
Since a lot of the code base for 2k and XP is the same, I would imagine 
that most attacks and vulns would be the same for both OS's.


Bobby Heid wrote:

Sorry about the offline email, I meant to reply to the list.

I think that there is just more emphasis on XP than 2K.  But there are still
2K updates that I have seen recently.  Also, an XP vulnerability will
probably get more resources than 2K ones.

I think that hackers will still target 2K as there are still a lot of 2K
boxes out there.

Don't get me wrong, 2K is still a pretty good platform, but as more people
move away from it, it will get harder to get help with.  And don't forget
that 2K will have support ended before XP.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Winterlight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:49 PM

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [H] 2k wireless

At 01:45 PM 12/13/2006, you wrote:

Oh no, there are many OS updates issued.  Then there are media player, etc.
updates.
Bobby



maybe XP needs more of them then 2k . One advantage of 2k is that it 
isn't a direct target like XP and soon to be Vista






RE: [H] 2k wireless

2006-12-13 Thread Bobby Heid
Sorry about the offline email, I meant to reply to the list.

I think that there is just more emphasis on XP than 2K.  But there are still
2K updates that I have seen recently.  Also, an XP vulnerability will
probably get more resources than 2K ones.

I think that hackers will still target 2K as there are still a lot of 2K
boxes out there.

Don't get me wrong, 2K is still a pretty good platform, but as more people
move away from it, it will get harder to get help with.  And don't forget
that 2K will have support ended before XP.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Winterlight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [H] 2k wireless

At 01:45 PM 12/13/2006, you wrote:
>Oh no, there are many OS updates issued.  Then there are media player, etc.
>updates.
>Bobby


maybe XP needs more of them then 2k . One advantage of 2k is that it 
isn't a direct target like XP and soon to be Vista




Re: [H] 2k wireless

2006-12-13 Thread Bill Cohane

At 13:40 12/13/06, Winterlight wrote:
It is time to clean off the drive and do a new install on my laptop = 
Thinkpad 1.13 P3M with a GB of P133 and a Hitachi Travelstar.  I have 
XP on it now but I am thinking I would be better off with 2k. For one 
thing 2k takes a lot less space and horsepower and I would like to 
start running more things out of a VM and leave the primary OS for 
games and multimedia.


2k has a smaller footprint, quicker, and I don't think I need what XP 
offers since I will be using Firefox, and I don't have a fast enough 
video card to do anything game wise other then legacy games. XP 
offers, better security for IE, but I won't be using IE, and XP has 
hyperthreading support, ... I don't need it, and better multimedia 
support, but not in a area I can take advantage of with this laptop as 
the most I will be doing is listening to mp3s, watching a DVD or video 
file and maybe watching TV with a USB tuner.


Anybody think I am missing something? ... that my reasoning to choose 
2k over XP is wrong?


The only thing I am not sure about is wireless, 2K SP4 supports WPA 
...right? I won't have any problems with wireless security using 2k 
...right?


I'm running Win 2K on my laptop and I added an Intel mini-pci wireless 
card. The Intel driver/software that came with this wireless card 
included WPA support and it runs just fine on 2K. I don't know (kind of 
doubt it) if Win 2K has built in WPA wireless support.


I have a separate hard drive (I can add/remove the two hard drives to 
change operating system) with Win XP installed for this laptop and I 
find the native WPA to be much more confusing than what came with the 
Intel wireless card. So I use the Intel networking support instead of 
XP's "wizard" based stuff which I couldn't get to work, probably 
because I wasn't willing to spend enough time on it.


I only wrote this message because nobody has yet commented on Win 2K 
and WPA support. So my answer is yes, it's possible to do WPA on Win 2K.


Regards,
Bill 



RE: [H] 2k wireless

2006-12-13 Thread Winterlight

At 01:45 PM 12/13/2006, you wrote:

Oh no, there are many OS updates issued.  Then there are media player, etc.
updates.
Bobby



maybe XP needs more of them then 2k . One advantage of 2k is that it 
isn't a direct target like XP and soon to be Vista





Re: [H] 2k wireless

2006-12-13 Thread Gary VanderMolen
>>Security updates is one thing that will go away sooner for 2k than XP.
>>Bobby
> 
> the updates are predominately for IE, aren't they?... and I am not 
> going to be using IE 

Yesterday's monthly updates included fixes for Media Player, 
Outlook 2003, and Outlook Express.

Gary VanderMolen



RE: [H] 2k wireless

2006-12-13 Thread Winterlight

At 11:44 AM 12/13/2006, you wrote:

Security updates is one thing that will go away sooner for 2k than XP.
Bobby


the updates are predominately for IE, aren't they?... and I am not 
going to be using IE 



RE: [H] 2k wireless

2006-12-13 Thread Bobby Heid
Security updates is one thing that will go away sooner for 2k than XP.

Bobby 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:40 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] 2k wireless

It is time to clean off the drive and do a new install on my laptop = 
Thinkpad 1.13 P3M with a GB of P133 and a Hitachi Travelstar.  I have 
XP on it now but I am thinking I would be better off with 2k. For one 
thing 2k takes a lot less space and horsepower and I would like to 
start running more things out of a VM and leave the primary OS for 
games and multimedia.

2k has a smaller footprint, quicker, and I don't think I need what XP 
offers since I will be using Firefox, and I don't have a fast enough 
video card to do anything game wise other then legacy games. XP 
offers, better security for IE, but I won't be using IE, and XP has 
hyperthreading support, ... I don't need it, and better multimedia 
support, but not in a area I can take advantage of with this laptop 
as the most I will be doing is listening to mp3s, watching a DVD or 
video file and maybe watching TV with a USB tuner.

Anybody think I am missing something? ... that my reasoning to choose 
2k over XP is wrong?

The only thing I am not sure about is wireless, 2K SP4 supports WPA 
...right? I won't have any problems with wireless security using 2k
...right? 



[H] 2k wireless

2006-12-13 Thread Winterlight
It is time to clean off the drive and do a new install on my laptop = 
Thinkpad 1.13 P3M with a GB of P133 and a Hitachi Travelstar.  I have 
XP on it now but I am thinking I would be better off with 2k. For one 
thing 2k takes a lot less space and horsepower and I would like to 
start running more things out of a VM and leave the primary OS for 
games and multimedia.


2k has a smaller footprint, quicker, and I don't think I need what XP 
offers since I will be using Firefox, and I don't have a fast enough 
video card to do anything game wise other then legacy games. XP 
offers, better security for IE, but I won't be using IE, and XP has 
hyperthreading support, ... I don't need it, and better multimedia 
support, but not in a area I can take advantage of with this laptop 
as the most I will be doing is listening to mp3s, watching a DVD or 
video file and maybe watching TV with a USB tuner.


Anybody think I am missing something? ... that my reasoning to choose 
2k over XP is wrong?


The only thing I am not sure about is wireless, 2K SP4 supports WPA 
...right? I won't have any problems with wireless security using 2k ...right?