Re: [H] ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

2008-06-21 Thread maccrawj

Old sorry, I guess YPops! is dead so I had to switch accounts to post here 
again.

1. *By the time* nehalem ships X48 will be mature is what I said!
2. Tangable is number of PCIe lanes  official support of 1600 FSB. Since boards 
based on any of the 3 chipsets cost money, the xtra $$$ for X vs. P is future 
proofing IMHO.

3. It seemed like the Wifi was factoring in as a reason to buy.
4. Dual GB means teaming, redundantcy if one dies. Again not a reason to pick but 
that's a standard feature of todays mobo's anyway.



Now if you had said X38 vs X48 has no tangable benefit I'd agree with you in the 
context of replacing an X38 mobo with a X48 model not being worth it.



James Boswell wrote:

On 16 Jun 2008, at 13:17:570, j maccraw wrote:

I'd fully suggest going with the Rampage, it's a great board so far 
for me. Part of the best $1300 I've ever spent on a PC upgrade when it 
comes to the wow, I can see the difference factor. The rest being 
Q6600, Visiontek HD3870X2 OC'd, 2GB Corsair DDR2-800, case+psu. Only 
regret is the audio and that would be the same with all the current 
boards.


With top-end LGA775 QX CPU's still ~$1000 which would have to come 
down in price after (delayed recently for erata) Nehalem ships. Then 
consider mature  vetted X48  (not  very obsolete) mobos vs  a new 
core ships with new socket  bugs to work out, What again exactly 
makes that high-end LGA775 a silly choice? That's some funny waffle 
flawed logic given that out the other side of your face you suggest a 
budget, limping, limited P35 mobo instead! A Rampage X48 cost same as 
Maximus X38, both only $100 more than P5K, they both have more lanes 
than P35 and are after all a ROG not a budget models so it's a tofu to 
steak comparison. Nevermind who the heck buys a mobo (as a conscious 
choice or perceived benefit) based on it having wifi built-in anyways?



1) the X48 chipset isn't mature, since it's only just hit the market.
2) It's a silly choice because it offers no particularly tangible real 
world performance benefit over a P35 board and costs quite a bit more, 
your hyperbolic description of P35 as limping and limited aside, there 
really isn't all that much to be gained.
3) At what point did I say it having built in wifi was a swinging point 
for it? although it certainly makes more sense in 99% of cases than dual 
gigabit ethernet.


-JB




Re: [H] ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

2008-06-16 Thread j maccraw
I'd fully suggest going with the Rampage, it's a great board so far for me. 
Part of the best $1300 I've ever spent on a PC upgrade when it comes to the 
wow, I can see the difference factor. The rest being Q6600, Visiontek 
HD3870X2 OC'd, 2GB Corsair DDR2-800, case+psu. Only regret is the audio and 
that would be the same with all the current boards.

With top-end LGA775 QX CPU's still ~$1000 which would have to come down in 
price after (delayed recently for erata) Nehalem ships. Then consider mature  
vetted X48  (not  very obsolete) mobos vs  a new core ships with new socket  
bugs to work out, What again exactly makes that high-end LGA775 a silly 
choice? That's some funny waffle flawed logic given that out the other side of 
your face you suggest a budget, limping, limited P35 mobo instead! A Rampage 
X48 cost same as Maximus X38, both only $100 more than P5K, they both have more 
lanes than P35 and are after all a ROG not a budget models so it's a tofu to 
steak comparison. Nevermind who the heck buys a mobo (as a conscious choice or 
perceived benefit) based on it having wifi built-in anyways?

- Original Message 
From: James Boswell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:50:40 PM
Subject: Re: [H] ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

TBH, I'd recommend you buy an Asus P5K-E/Wifi-AP (which I've built  
several machines around and they're all awesome) and leave it at that
a top of the line S775 board seems like a silly investment at this  
point when it'll be very obsolete in ~6 months as Nehalem launches

On 15 Jun 2008, at 22:00, Winterlight wrote:
 I am not an over clocker, or a gamer so it seems odd that I am  
 thinking about buying this motherboard
 ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131284nm_mc=OTC-Frooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Motherboards+-+Intel-_-ASUS-_-13131284

 to pair with a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W  
 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail

 but I like it's feature rich design, new power saving features, the  
 new X48 chipset and most importantly it supports my Corsair XPS2  
 DDR2 800MHz RAM.

 Any comments, advice? thanks



  


Re: [H] ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

2008-06-16 Thread James Boswell

On 16 Jun 2008, at 13:17:570, j maccraw wrote:

I'd fully suggest going with the Rampage, it's a great board so far  
for me. Part of the best $1300 I've ever spent on a PC upgrade when  
it comes to the wow, I can see the difference factor. The rest  
being Q6600, Visiontek HD3870X2 OC'd, 2GB Corsair DDR2-800, case 
+psu. Only regret is the audio and that would be the same with all  
the current boards.


With top-end LGA775 QX CPU's still ~$1000 which would have to come  
down in price after (delayed recently for erata) Nehalem ships. Then  
consider mature  vetted X48  (not  very obsolete) mobos vs  a new  
core ships with new socket  bugs to work out, What again exactly  
makes that high-end LGA775 a silly choice? That's some funny  
waffle flawed logic given that out the other side of your face you  
suggest a budget, limping, limited P35 mobo instead! A Rampage X48  
cost same as Maximus X38, both only $100 more than P5K, they both  
have more lanes than P35 and are after all a ROG not a budget models  
so it's a tofu to steak comparison. Nevermind who the heck buys a  
mobo (as a conscious choice or perceived benefit) based on it having  
wifi built-in anyways?



1) the X48 chipset isn't mature, since it's only just hit the market.
2) It's a silly choice because it offers no particularly tangible real  
world performance benefit over a P35 board and costs quite a bit more,  
your hyperbolic description of P35 as limping and limited aside, there  
really isn't all that much to be gained.
3) At what point did I say it having built in wifi was a swinging  
point for it? although it certainly makes more sense in 99% of cases  
than dual gigabit ethernet.


-JB


[H] ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

2008-06-15 Thread Winterlight
I am not an over clocker, or a gamer so it seems odd that I am 
thinking about buying this motherboard

ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131284nm_mc=OTC-Frooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Motherboards+-+Intel-_-ASUS-_-13131284

to pair with a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W 
Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail


but I like it's feature rich design, new power saving features, the 
new X48 chipset and most importantly it supports my Corsair XPS2 DDR2 
800MHz RAM.


Any comments, advice? thanks



Re: [H] ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

2008-06-15 Thread James Boswell
TBH, I'd recommend you buy an Asus P5K-E/Wifi-AP (which I've built  
several machines around and they're all awesome) and leave it at that
a top of the line S775 board seems like a silly investment at this  
point when it'll be very obsolete in ~6 months as Nehalem launches


On 15 Jun 2008, at 22:00, Winterlight wrote:
I am not an over clocker, or a gamer so it seems odd that I am  
thinking about buying this motherboard

ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131284nm_mc=OTC-Frooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Motherboards+-+Intel-_-ASUS-_-13131284

to pair with a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W  
Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail


but I like it's feature rich design, new power saving features, the  
new X48 chipset and most importantly it supports my Corsair XPS2  
DDR2 800MHz RAM.


Any comments, advice? thanks





Re: [H] ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

2008-06-15 Thread Winterlight
Well, I have no use for Wi-fi on this board, and anything now is 
always going to be obsolete in six months. But I keep my setups for 
years so for me the top end always seems to work out. A motherboard 
isn't something you want to change once you are up and running, like 
say a CPU or more RAM. Besides the cost difference is 150 US, not a 
lot of money to buy in the top end. It isn't like it is a 500 dollar 
Striker Extreme!

thanks for the comment.


At 04:50 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:

TBH, I'd recommend you buy an Asus P5K-E/Wifi-AP (which I've built
several machines around and they're all awesome) and leave it at that
a top of the line S775 board seems like a silly investment at this
point when it'll be very obsolete in ~6 months as Nehalem launches

On 15 Jun 2008, at 22:00, Winterlight wrote:

I am not an over clocker, or a gamer so it seems odd that I am
thinking about buying this motherboard
ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131284nm_mc=OTC-Frooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Motherboards+-+Intel-_-ASUS-_-13131284

to pair with a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W
Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail

but I like it's feature rich design, new power saving features, the
new X48 chipset and most importantly it supports my Corsair XPS2
DDR2 800MHz RAM.

Any comments, advice? thanks






[H] Asus Rampage Formula

2008-03-23 Thread j maccraw
Any of you resellers know when we can expect to see
this mobo for sale? I see the 
Gigabyte X48 board is around but want the Asus!



  

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