Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-12 Thread maccrawj
Email  surfing the web no longer equate to the statement needs little horsepower 
because some surf for multimedia, flash, or java content that certainly needs more 
horsepower than basic surfing.


I do not agree that AMD solutions save customers money in the long run, nor do I 
think skipping core duo makes sense. Many customers use their machines well past 
their optimum service life and benefit from font-loading better-than-currently-needed 
hardware not to mention a bit longevity due to CPU upgradability when prices drop.


Yes, I am aware the I7 is yet another socket but there are going to be E, Q,  QX 
chips dropping in price same as DDR2 has plummeted as DDR3 hits.


For AMD to get better, people need to stop investing in their products. For Intel to 
get better, AMD needs to get better because unchallenged Intel will not aggressively 
innovate because they don't need to. Loosing sales to AMD only shows Intel that they 
need only maintain the status quo and lower prices. AMD is in such a pickle for more 
than lagging Intel, they have made some really bad business decision and no amount of 
championing them is going to fix it, they have to decide to change themselves.


Clearly many of you think AMD is a good choice either to support the underdog or 
because you see price/performance of AMD meeting an imaginary low speed target that 
makes value systems worth it. I think in time that will prove to be misguided and 
will continue to say you are doing customers a dis-service.



Thane Sherrington wrote:

At 12:02 PM 10/11/2008, W. D. wrote:

At 00:31 11/10/2008, maccrawj wrote:
What he said ---v

;)

For that matter I state again that building AMD based systems right
now is doing a
dis-service to your customer, same as building Intel in 2004 would 
have been.


I only buy AMD to support them financially.  What if they
were to go under?  Since AMD has been on the scene
Intel has been forced to compete fiercly.  Would Intel be as
aggressive in pursuing performance and value without a serious
competitor?  I think not.


AMD makes some good processors, and for most people the slightly lower 
speed plus lower price makes them worthwhile.  Core 2 Duo for email and 
surfing the web?  Not worth the extra dollars.


T




Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-11 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 12:02 PM 10/11/2008, W. D. wrote:

At 00:31 11/10/2008, maccrawj wrote:
What he said ---v

;)

For that matter I state again that building AMD based systems right
now is doing a
dis-service to your customer, same as building Intel in 2004 would 
have been.


I only buy AMD to support them financially.  What if they
were to go under?  Since AMD has been on the scene
Intel has been forced to compete fiercly.  Would Intel be as
aggressive in pursuing performance and value without a serious
competitor?  I think not.


AMD makes some good processors, and for most people the slightly 
lower speed plus lower price makes them worthwhile.  Core 2 Duo for 
email and surfing the web?  Not worth the extra dollars.


T 





Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-11 Thread maccrawj

LOL, I can see that argument going nowhere in the reverse situation!

You reward the company doing the right thing, not support the inferior for fear 
they'd disappear otherwise.


W. D. wrote:

At 00:31 11/10/2008, maccrawj wrote:

What he said ---v

;)

For that matter I state again that building AMD based systems right 
now is doing a 
dis-service to your customer, same as building Intel in 2004 would have been.


I only buy AMD to support them financially.  What if they
were to go under?  Since AMD has been on the scene
Intel has been forced to compete fiercly.  Would Intel be as 
aggressive in pursuing performance and value without a serious

competitor?  I think not.

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Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-10 Thread FORC5
cheapest is good :-D

hohoho

At 11:31 PM 11/9/2008, maccrawj Poked the stick with:
What he said ---v

;)

For that matter I state again that building AMD based systems right now is 
doing a dis-service to your customer, same as building Intel in 2004 would 
have been.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nvidias 680i was trash
780i fix 680i problems and nothing else
790i is total trash, maybe the worst product I've ever had the misfortune to 
use.  Out of 22 14 dead after 3 months.  
Sent via BlackBerry 
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From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:02:29 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

so what is wrong with nvidia ?
I usually build nothing but and have zero problems.  But never on a intel 
cpu, only AMD. Only currently looking at intel as a more expensive option.
fp

N series is Nvidia, assuming 680, good luck with that!

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3l2=11l3=227model=745modelmenu=1



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Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-10 Thread W. D.
At 00:31 11/10/2008, maccrawj wrote:
What he said ---v

;)

For that matter I state again that building AMD based systems right 
now is doing a 
dis-service to your customer, same as building Intel in 2004 would have been.

I only buy AMD to support them financially.  What if they
were to go under?  Since AMD has been on the scene
Intel has been forced to compete fiercly.  Would Intel be as 
aggressive in pursuing performance and value without a serious
competitor?  I think not.

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Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-10 Thread Stan Zaske

I agree, AMD's best is plenty fast enough.


W. D. wrote:

At 00:31 11/10/2008, maccrawj wrote:
  

What he said ---v

;)

For that matter I state again that building AMD based systems right 
now is doing a 
dis-service to your customer, same as building Intel in 2004 would have been.



I only buy AMD to support them financially.  What if they
were to go under?  Since AMD has been on the scene
Intel has been forced to compete fiercly.  Would Intel be as 
aggressive in pursuing performance and value without a serious

competitor?  I think not.

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Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-09 Thread maccrawj

What he said ---v

;)

For that matter I state again that building AMD based systems right now is doing a 
dis-service to your customer, same as building Intel in 2004 would have been.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nvidias 680i was trash
780i fix 680i problems and nothing else
790i is total trash, maybe the worst product I've ever had the misfortune to use.  Out of 22 14 dead after 3 months.  
Sent via BlackBerry 


-Original Message-
From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:02:29 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Subject: Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU



so what is wrong with nvidia ?

I usually build nothing but and have zero problems.  But never on a intel cpu, only AMD. 
Only currently looking at intel as a more expensive option.


fp


N series is Nvidia, assuming 680, good luck with that!

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3l2=11l3=227model=745modelmenu=1





[H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-05 Thread Jeff Lane
Hi folks,

I recently bought an Asus P5N32-E SLI mother board and have a dual core Intel 
2.66Ghz 805 SL8ZH. Does anyone know if these two are compatible? The m/b 
handles a very wide range of processors, including dual core. I have no way to 
set it up yet as it is going to be a major upgrade to my ancient Athlon system 
and other stuff is enroute. Right now I really can't afford to upgrade that 
processor so this is why I am asking the question before I tear the old system 
apart. I have never been faced with this question building a new box. I bought 
this stuff off craigslist in reverse sequence, CPU first. You have to get them 
when they popup. Operation is not an issue here, they all work very well. I 
have been unable to Google a site that shows compatibility, so I figured some 
of my tech buddies may be able to help.

Thanks,

Jeff


Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-05 Thread maccrawj

N series is Nvidia, assuming 680, good luck with that!

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3l2=11l3=227model=745modelmenu=1


Jeff Lane wrote:

Hi folks,

I recently bought an Asus P5N32-E SLI mother board and have a dual core Intel 
2.66Ghz 805 SL8ZH. Does anyone know if these two are compatible? The m/b 
handles a very wide range of processors, including dual core. I have no way to 
set it up yet as it is going to be a major upgrade to my ancient Athlon system 
and other stuff is enroute. Right now I really can't afford to upgrade that 
processor so this is why I am asking the question before I tear the old system 
apart. I have never been faced with this question building a new box. I bought 
this stuff off craigslist in reverse sequence, CPU first. You have to get them 
when they popup. Operation is not an issue here, they all work very well. I 
have been unable to Google a site that shows compatibility, so I figured some 
of my tech buddies may be able to help.

Thanks,

Jeff



Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-05 Thread Jeff Lane
Thanks, I've been all over the Asus site. Did I miss something here? (that 
is usually a possibility with me)

Jeff

Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU


N series is Nvidia, assuming 680, good luck with that!

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3l2=11l3=227model=745modelmenu=1


Jeff Lane wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I recently bought an Asus P5N32-E SLI mother board and have a dual core 
 Intel 2.66Ghz 805 SL8ZH. Does anyone know if these two are compatible? The 
 m/b handles a very wide range of processors, including dual core. I have 
 no way to set it up yet as it is going to be a major upgrade to my ancient 
 Athlon system and other stuff is enroute. Right now I really can't afford 
 to upgrade that processor so this is why I am asking the question before I 
 tear the old system apart. I have never been faced with this question 
 building a new box. I bought this stuff off craigslist in reverse 
 sequence, CPU first. You have to get them when they popup. Operation is 
 not an issue here, they all work very well. I have been unable to Google a 
 site that shows compatibility, so I figured some of my tech buddies may be 
 able to help.

 Thanks,

 Jeff




Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-05 Thread FORC5

so what is wrong with nvidia ?

I usually build nothing but and have zero problems.  But never on a intel cpu, 
only AMD. 
Only currently looking at intel as a more expensive option.

fp

N series is Nvidia, assuming 680, good luck with that!

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3l2=11l3=227model=745modelmenu=1


Jeff Lane wrote:
Hi folks,
I recently bought an Asus P5N32-E SLI mother board and have a dual core Intel 
2.66Ghz 805 SL8ZH. Does anyone know if these two are compatible? The m/b 
handles a very wide range of processors, including dual core. I have no way 
to set it up yet as it is going to be a major upgrade to my ancient Athlon 
system and other stuff is enroute. Right now I really can't afford to upgrade 
that processor so this is why I am asking the question before I tear the old 
system apart. I have never been faced with this question building a new box. 
I bought this stuff off craigslist in reverse sequence, CPU first. You have 
to get them when they popup. Operation is not an issue here, they all work 
very well. I have been unable to Google a site that shows compatibility, so I 
figured some of my tech buddies may be able to help.
Thanks,
Jeff

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Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-05 Thread tmservo
Nvidias 680i was trash
780i fix 680i problems and nothing else
790i is total trash, maybe the worst product I've ever had the misfortune to 
use.  Out of 22 14 dead after 3 months.  
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:02:29 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU



so what is wrong with nvidia ?

I usually build nothing but and have zero problems.  But never on a intel cpu, 
only AMD. 
Only currently looking at intel as a more expensive option.

fp

N series is Nvidia, assuming 680, good luck with that!

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3l2=11l3=227model=745modelmenu=1


Jeff Lane wrote:
Hi folks,
I recently bought an Asus P5N32-E SLI mother board and have a dual core Intel 
2.66Ghz 805 SL8ZH. Does anyone know if these two are compatible? The m/b 
handles a very wide range of processors, including dual core. I have no way 
to set it up yet as it is going to be a major upgrade to my ancient Athlon 
system and other stuff is enroute. Right now I really can't afford to upgrade 
that processor so this is why I am asking the question before I tear the old 
system apart. I have never been faced with this question building a new box. 
I bought this stuff off craigslist in reverse sequence, CPU first. You have 
to get them when they popup. Operation is not an issue here, they all work 
very well. I have been unable to Google a site that shows compatibility, so I 
figured some of my tech buddies may be able to help.
Thanks,
Jeff

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
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Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU(SOLVED)

2008-11-05 Thread Jeff Lane
Thanks to all who responded. I just discovered the thing I really had missed 
in the User's Manual. At 73 you do miss a few things, trust me. One little 
tiny thing on the end of the chip nomenclature is the alpha 05A. This board 
is compatible with 06/05B/05A processors. It is Nvidia 680i SLI. Thanks for 
your help.

Jeff


Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU



so what is wrong with nvidia ?

I usually build nothing but and have zero problems.  But never on a intel 
cpu, only AMD.
Only currently looking at intel as a more expensive option.

fp

N series is Nvidia, assuming 680, good luck with that!

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3l2=11l3=227model=745modelmenu=1


Jeff Lane wrote:
Hi folks,
I recently bought an Asus P5N32-E SLI mother board and have a dual core 
Intel 2.66Ghz 805 SL8ZH. Does anyone know if these two are compatible? The 
m/b handles a very wide range of processors, including dual core. I have 
no way to set it up yet as it is going to be a major upgrade to my ancient 
Athlon system and other stuff is enroute. Right now I really can't afford 
to upgrade that processor so this is why I am asking the question before I 
tear the old system apart. I have never been faced with this question 
building a new box. I bought this stuff off craigslist in reverse 
sequence, CPU first. You have to get them when they popup. Operation is 
not an issue here, they all work very well. I have been unable to Google a 
site that shows compatibility, so I figured some of my tech buddies may be 
able to help.
Thanks,
Jeff

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
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Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU

2008-11-05 Thread FORC5
different strokes comrade :-)
I probably would not use nVidia on intel either but have had good service with 
AMD
currently a 6400 and a Asus M2N-E
fp

At 03:10 PM 11/5/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poked the stick with:
Nvidias 680i was trash
780i fix 680i problems and nothing else
790i is total trash, maybe the worst product I've ever had the misfortune to 
use.  Out of 22 14 dead after 3 months.  
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:02:29 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Asus m/b and CPU



so what is wrong with nvidia ?

I usually build nothing but and have zero problems.  But never on a intel cpu, 
only AMD. 
Only currently looking at intel as a more expensive option.

fp

N series is Nvidia, assuming 680, good luck with that!

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3l2=11l3=227model=745modelmenu=1


Jeff Lane wrote:
Hi folks,
I recently bought an Asus P5N32-E SLI mother board and have a dual core 
Intel 2.66Ghz 805 SL8ZH. Does anyone know if these two are compatible? The 
m/b handles a very wide range of processors, including dual core. I have no 
way to set it up yet as it is going to be a major upgrade to my ancient 
Athlon system and other stuff is enroute. Right now I really can't afford to 
upgrade that processor so this is why I am asking the question before I tear 
the old system apart. I have never been faced with this question building a 
new box. I bought this stuff off craigslist in reverse sequence, CPU first. 
You have to get them when they popup. Operation is not an issue here, they 
all work very well. I have been unable to Google a site that shows 
compatibility, so I figured some of my tech buddies may be able to help.
Thanks,
Jeff

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Let he who takes a Monday plunge return it by Tuesday.

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Let he who takes a Monday plunge return it by Tuesday.