Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-27 Thread Tim Lider
Hello,

Check your memory.  Pull them out and put them all back in.

1 long and 3 short usually means a memory error.

Regards,

On February 26, 2013 at 4:31 PM Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Got the new power supply in and just as I'd feared it still doesn't work.
  I get the 1 long beep, 3 short beep error (memory) and the onboard
 diagnostic gives a 8.7. error (check CPU core voltage). It could be the
 motherboard but at this point I think I'm just going to bite the bullet and
 build a new machine.

 Yay! Time to spec and build a new machine!



 -
 Brian



 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Winterlight
 winterli...@winterlight.orgwrote:

  I have had similar episodes that turned out to be the video fan
  happened to me twice... and the CPU fan ... happened to me once. The fans
  don't die they just slow down and stop pushing enough air. The MB over
  heats and shuts down the computer and every thing feels and smells hot.
  Good luck.
 
  w
 
 
 
  At 07:42 AM 2/25/2013, you wrote:
 
  Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
  powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
  ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
  trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
  year ago I haven't had to touch it.
 
  I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on
  briefly
  and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.
 
  Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
   Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
  the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
  coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.
 
  Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
  back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
  diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
  RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check
  CPU
  Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).
 
  I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
  can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
  parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
  trouble-shooting process.
 
  Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
  indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
  worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?
 
 
  -
  Brian
 
 
 
Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com
timli...@adv-data.com


Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-27 Thread Gaffer
On Wednesday 27 February 2013 08:10:09 Tim Lider wrote:
 Hello,

 Check your memory.  Pull them out and put them all back in.

 1 long and 3 short usually means a memory error.

 Regards,

The memory power supply capacitors failing can cause memory errors.
If doing the above clears the problem fine, but I would be inclined to 
test the memory by putting it into another machine to check it.
Either way run Memtest or similar if you can.

-- 
Best Regards:
 Gaffer
 Pontefract Linux User Group.


Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-26 Thread Brian Weeden
Got the new power supply in and just as I'd feared it still doesn't work.
 I get the 1 long beep, 3 short beep error (memory) and the onboard
diagnostic gives a 8.7. error (check CPU core voltage). It could be the
motherboard but at this point I think I'm just going to bite the bullet and
build a new machine.

Yay! Time to spec and build a new machine!



-
Brian



On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.orgwrote:

 I have had similar episodes that turned out to be the video fan
 happened to me twice... and the CPU fan ... happened to me once. The fans
 don't die they just slow down and stop pushing enough air. The MB over
 heats and shuts down the computer and every thing feels and smells hot.
 Good luck.

 w



 At 07:42 AM 2/25/2013, you wrote:

 Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
 powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
 ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
 trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
 year ago I haven't had to touch it.

 I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on
 briefly
 and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.

 Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
  Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
 the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
 coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.

 Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
 back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
 diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
 RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check
 CPU
 Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).

 I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
 can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
 parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
 trouble-shooting process.

 Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
 indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
 worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?


 -
 Brian





[H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-25 Thread Brian Weeden
Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
year ago I haven't had to touch it.

I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on briefly
and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.

Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
 Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.

Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check CPU
Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).

I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
trouble-shooting process.

Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?


-
Brian


Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-25 Thread Al Anger

If it is as drastic as a bad mainboard, you will want a new power supply
for the new mainboard, anyway; given the symptoms described.

I'd start there. At worst you have a PS on hand.

best
al

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:42:45 +0800
Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
 powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
 ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
 trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
 year ago I haven't had to touch it.
 
 I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on briefly
 and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.
 
 Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
  Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
 the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
 coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.
 
 Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
 back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
 diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
 RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check CPU
 Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).
 
 I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
 can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
 parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
 trouble-shooting process.
 
 Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
 indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
 worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?
 
 
 -
 Brian

-- 
Al Anger eight.bit...@gmail.com



Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-25 Thread DSinc

Brian,
My suggestion is you need a new PSU. I've never read about a PSU
failing with excessively 'high' voltages. I suppose this can happen, but
I am not aware of this; yet,..:)
From your share, it seems that your cpu, m/b, RAM, are now trying
very hard to deal with 'bad' voltages as best they can.
Get a new (bigger) PSU.
I would suggest a 650W + unit to start. If you have several (many)
mechanical HD's, I may go 750W.
Ireally like Seasonic now (thanks Greg!)
JMHO.
Duncan

On 02/25/2013 10:42, Brian Weeden wrote:

Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
year ago I haven't had to touch it.

I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on briefly
and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.

Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
  Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.

Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check CPU
Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).

I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
trouble-shooting process.

Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?


-
Brian





Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-25 Thread Brian Weeden
I had a 650W OCZ in there.  Only 1 SSD, 1 HDD, and a single video card so my 
power requirements aren't that steep.

---
Brian Weeden
Secure World Foundation
+1 202 683-8534

On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:28, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote:

 Brian,
 My suggestion is you need a new PSU. I've never read about a PSU
 failing with excessively 'high' voltages. I suppose this can happen, but
 I am not aware of this; yet,..:)
 From your share, it seems that your cpu, m/b, RAM, are now trying
 very hard to deal with 'bad' voltages as best they can.
 Get a new (bigger) PSU.
 I would suggest a 650W + unit to start. If you have several (many)
 mechanical HD's, I may go 750W.
 Ireally like Seasonic now (thanks Greg!)
 JMHO.
 Duncan
 
 On 02/25/2013 10:42, Brian Weeden wrote:
 Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
 powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
 ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
 trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
 year ago I haven't had to touch it.
 
 I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on briefly
 and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.
 
 Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
  Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
 the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
 coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.
 
 Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
 back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
 diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
 RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check CPU
 Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).
 
 I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
 can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
 parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
 trouble-shooting process.
 
 Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
 indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
 worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?
 
 
 -
 Brian
 


Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-25 Thread DSinc

Brian,
OK. Well, I suppose 'stuff happens' then.
Still, your trouble reads a PSU anywayat least.
A new m/b, maybe.. ?
Duncan

On 02/25/2013 12:38, Brian Weeden wrote:

I had a 650W OCZ in there.  Only 1 SSD, 1 HDD, and a single video card so my 
power requirements aren't that steep.

---
Brian Weeden
Secure World Foundation
+1 202 683-8534

On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:28, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote:


Brian,
My suggestion is you need a new PSU. I've never read about a PSU
failing with excessively 'high' voltages. I suppose this can happen, but
I am not aware of this; yet,..:)
 From your share, it seems that your cpu, m/b, RAM, are now trying
very hard to deal with 'bad' voltages as best they can.
Get a new (bigger) PSU.
I would suggest a 650W + unit to start. If you have several (many)
mechanical HD's, I may go 750W.
Ireally like Seasonic now (thanks Greg!)
JMHO.
Duncan

On 02/25/2013 10:42, Brian Weeden wrote:

Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
year ago I haven't had to touch it.

I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on briefly
and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.

Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
  Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.

Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check CPU
Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).

I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
trouble-shooting process.

Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?


-
Brian




Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-25 Thread Winterlight
I have had similar episodes that turned out to be the video fan 
happened to me twice... and the CPU fan ... happened to me once. The 
fans don't die they just slow down and stop pushing enough air. The 
MB over heats and shuts down the computer and every thing feels and 
smells hot. Good luck.


w


At 07:42 AM 2/25/2013, you wrote:

Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
year ago I haven't had to touch it.

I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on briefly
and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.

Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
 Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.

Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check CPU
Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).

I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
trouble-shooting process.

Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?


-
Brian