Re: [H] Newegg Screws Its Connecticut Customers

[Harry McGregor]

Hi, 

Correct, az has had a use tax vs a sales tax for a long time.

Individuals tend to not voluntarily report...


When I worked for u of a, if a purchase did not collect az sales tax our 
purchasing and finance teams would calculate it and send it to az department of 
revenue.

Harry


On March 4, 2018 11:05:09 AM MST, Paxia  wrote:
>AZ has a line on the State tax form to 
>*volunteer*  to pay tax on anything bought on 
>line :-)
>I actually know ppl that do that, I ignore 
>it. Maybe I should not have said that, NSA is 
>listening
>fp
>
>On 3/4/2018 9:50 AM, didymus7 wrote:
>> The state of Connecticut is very innovative 
>> in one area:  Taxes. Our state legislators 
>> (blue state) are adept at screaming about 
>> budget deficits, then seeking ways to get 
>> more money out of the populace.  CT has had 
>> for a few years, what amounts to an 
>> unconstitutional tax law, called the Use 
>> Tax.  The Use Tax proscribes that anything 
>> bought out of state has to be charged CT 
>> sales tax, even if the selling entity does 
>> not have a CT office. This is essentially a 
>> tax on interstate commerce, forbidden to 
>> states by the US constitution.  However, by 
>> hand waving and calling it a 'Use' tax, the 
>> courts, so far, have given it a pass.
>>
>> That's the background.  Since the use tax 
>> has been initiated, Newegg has adamantly 
>> refused to collect CT state sales tax.  
>> Since the state of CT can't force them to, 
>> that's their right.  However, when the 
>> state of CT recently requested that Newegg 
>> hand over information on CT buyers for the 
>> years 2014, 2015, 2016, they cheerfully 
>> gave up that info despite the fact that 
>> they really didn't have to.
>>
>> Luckily, I bought little from Newegg the 
>> last three years and will not from now on.  
>> I don't mind paying the tax, but I object 
>> to Newegg just doing the easy stuff, then 
>> ratting me out.  Bottom line:  I'm hit up 
>> for an extra $100 in taxes.
>>
>> Just letting everyone know in case your 
>> state becomes as innovative as CT with a 
>> 'Use' tax.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>

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Re: [H] Newegg Screws Its Connecticut Customers

[didymus7]

Yeah, CT was really volunteer until the latest budget problems, so now 
they are flexing their muscles in enforcement.  I would love to say to 
them that the items were bought by me but are used in another state.  I 
doubt that would matter, however, this is tax money we're talking about.



On 3/4/2018 1:05 PM, Paxia wrote:
AZ has a line on the State tax form to *volunteer*  to pay tax on 
anything bought on line :-)
I actually know ppl that do that, I ignore it. Maybe I should not have 
said that, NSA is listening

fp

On 3/4/2018 9:50 AM, didymus7 wrote:
The state of Connecticut is very innovative in one area:  Taxes. Our 
state legislators (blue state) are adept at screaming about budget 
deficits, then seeking ways to get more money out of the populace.  
CT has had for a few years, what amounts to an unconstitutional tax 
law, called the Use Tax.  The Use Tax proscribes that anything bought 
out of state has to be charged CT sales tax, even if the selling 
entity does not have a CT office. This is essentially a tax on 
interstate commerce, forbidden to states by the US constitution.  
However, by hand waving and calling it a 'Use' tax, the courts, so 
far, have given it a pass.


That's the background.  Since the use tax has been initiated, Newegg 
has adamantly refused to collect CT state sales tax. Since the state 
of CT can't force them to, that's their right. However, when the 
state of CT recently requested that Newegg hand over information on 
CT buyers for the years 2014, 2015, 2016, they cheerfully gave up 
that info despite the fact that they really didn't have to.


Luckily, I bought little from Newegg the last three years and will 
not from now on.  I don't mind paying the tax, but I object to Newegg 
just doing the easy stuff, then ratting me out. Bottom line:  I'm hit 
up for an extra $100 in taxes.


Just letting everyone know in case your state becomes as innovative 
as CT with a 'Use' tax.


Steve

Re: [H] Newegg Screws Its Connecticut Customers

[Paxia]

AZ has a line on the State tax form to 
*volunteer*  to pay tax on anything bought on 
line :-)
I actually know ppl that do that, I ignore 
it. Maybe I should not have said that, NSA is 
listening

fp

On 3/4/2018 9:50 AM, didymus7 wrote:
The state of Connecticut is very innovative 
in one area:  Taxes. Our state legislators 
(blue state) are adept at screaming about 
budget deficits, then seeking ways to get 
more money out of the populace.  CT has had 
for a few years, what amounts to an 
unconstitutional tax law, called the Use 
Tax.  The Use Tax proscribes that anything 
bought out of state has to be charged CT 
sales tax, even if the selling entity does 
not have a CT office. This is essentially a 
tax on interstate commerce, forbidden to 
states by the US constitution.  However, by 
hand waving and calling it a 'Use' tax, the 
courts, so far, have given it a pass.


That's the background.  Since the use tax 
has been initiated, Newegg has adamantly 
refused to collect CT state sales tax.  
Since the state of CT can't force them to, 
that's their right.  However, when the 
state of CT recently requested that Newegg 
hand over information on CT buyers for the 
years 2014, 2015, 2016, they cheerfully 
gave up that info despite the fact that 
they really didn't have to.


Luckily, I bought little from Newegg the 
last three years and will not from now on.  
I don't mind paying the tax, but I object 
to Newegg just doing the easy stuff, then 
ratting me out.  Bottom line:  I'm hit up 
for an extra $100 in taxes.


Just letting everyone know in case your 
state becomes as innovative as CT with a 
'Use' tax.


Steve

Re: [H] Newegg Screws Its Connecticut Customers

[didymus7]

Well, they'd probably come out with a yearly use tax collection form 
that you have to file each year.  They have the example of the state of 
CT to follow, unfortunately.  Obviously now I'm going to cut all ties to 
Newegg.  As far as I'm concerned you either do or don't.  You just don't 
do it and then rat someone out.



On 3/4/2018 1:01 PM, Joshua MacCraw wrote:

Wow, how enforceable is that? We have no state income tax in Washington so
no state filing. Do know I've heard (g)rumblings about them trying to
enforce it, just not the how.

I dumped the Egg when they quietly dumped the rebranded PayPal credit
leaving me with paying PayPal 2x since PP wouldn't combine my NE & PP
Credit debits.



On Mar 4, 2018 9:52 AM, "didymus7"  wrote:

They enforce it in a variety of ways.  If you buy a car out of state,
they'll hit you up upon registration.  For internet orders, you are
supposed to pay the use tax in your income tax return.  Most people don't,
and technically, if the company has a location in that state, like Amazon,
they have to collect CT state sales tax.  The use tax is difficult to
enforce unless companies, like Newegg, just cave in and give them lists.


On 3/4/2018 12:40 PM, Joshua MacCraw wrote:


"Hit up" how, it's the sellers job to collect? That stupid law us making
it's rounds in WA also but thought it more a nuisance than enforceable,

On Mar 4, 2018 8:50 AM, "didymus7"  wrote:

The state of Connecticut is very innovative in one area:  Taxes. Our state

legislators (blue state) are adept at screaming about budget deficits,
then
seeking ways to get more money out of the populace.  CT has had for a few
years, what amounts to an unconstitutional tax law, called the Use Tax.
The Use Tax proscribes that anything bought out of state has to be charged
CT sales tax, even if the selling entity does not have a CT office. This
is
essentially a tax on interstate commerce, forbidden to states by the US
constitution.  However, by hand waving and calling it a 'Use' tax, the
courts, so far, have given it a pass.

That's the background.  Since the use tax has been initiated, Newegg has
adamantly refused to collect CT state sales tax.  Since the state of CT
can't force them to, that's their right.  However, when the state of CT
recently requested that Newegg hand over information on CT buyers for the
years 2014, 2015, 2016, they cheerfully gave up that info despite the fact
that they really didn't have to.

Luckily, I bought little from Newegg the last three years and will not
from now on.  I don't mind paying the tax, but I object to Newegg just
doing the easy stuff, then ratting me out.  Bottom line:  I'm hit up for
an
extra $100 in taxes.

Just letting everyone know in case your state becomes as innovative as CT
with a 'Use' tax.

Steve

Re: [H] Newegg Screws Its Connecticut Customers

[Joshua MacCraw]

Wow, how enforceable is that? We have no state income tax in Washington so
no state filing. Do know I've heard (g)rumblings about them trying to
enforce it, just not the how.

I dumped the Egg when they quietly dumped the rebranded PayPal credit
leaving me with paying PayPal 2x since PP wouldn't combine my NE & PP
Credit debits.



On Mar 4, 2018 9:52 AM, "didymus7"  wrote:

They enforce it in a variety of ways.  If you buy a car out of state,
they'll hit you up upon registration.  For internet orders, you are
supposed to pay the use tax in your income tax return.  Most people don't,
and technically, if the company has a location in that state, like Amazon,
they have to collect CT state sales tax.  The use tax is difficult to
enforce unless companies, like Newegg, just cave in and give them lists.


On 3/4/2018 12:40 PM, Joshua MacCraw wrote:

> "Hit up" how, it's the sellers job to collect? That stupid law us making
> it's rounds in WA also but thought it more a nuisance than enforceable,
>
> On Mar 4, 2018 8:50 AM, "didymus7"  wrote:
>
> The state of Connecticut is very innovative in one area:  Taxes. Our state
>> legislators (blue state) are adept at screaming about budget deficits,
>> then
>> seeking ways to get more money out of the populace.  CT has had for a few
>> years, what amounts to an unconstitutional tax law, called the Use Tax.
>> The Use Tax proscribes that anything bought out of state has to be charged
>> CT sales tax, even if the selling entity does not have a CT office. This
>> is
>> essentially a tax on interstate commerce, forbidden to states by the US
>> constitution.  However, by hand waving and calling it a 'Use' tax, the
>> courts, so far, have given it a pass.
>>
>> That's the background.  Since the use tax has been initiated, Newegg has
>> adamantly refused to collect CT state sales tax.  Since the state of CT
>> can't force them to, that's their right.  However, when the state of CT
>> recently requested that Newegg hand over information on CT buyers for the
>> years 2014, 2015, 2016, they cheerfully gave up that info despite the fact
>> that they really didn't have to.
>>
>> Luckily, I bought little from Newegg the last three years and will not
>> from now on.  I don't mind paying the tax, but I object to Newegg just
>> doing the easy stuff, then ratting me out.  Bottom line:  I'm hit up for
>> an
>> extra $100 in taxes.
>>
>> Just letting everyone know in case your state becomes as innovative as CT
>> with a 'Use' tax.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>

Re: [H] Newegg Screws Its Connecticut Customers

[didymus7]

They enforce it in a variety of ways.  If you buy a car out of state, 
they'll hit you up upon registration.  For internet orders, you are 
supposed to pay the use tax in your income tax return.  Most people 
don't, and technically, if the company has a location in that state, 
like Amazon, they have to collect CT state sales tax.  The use tax is 
difficult to enforce unless companies, like Newegg, just cave in and 
give them lists.


On 3/4/2018 12:40 PM, Joshua MacCraw wrote:

"Hit up" how, it's the sellers job to collect? That stupid law us making
it's rounds in WA also but thought it more a nuisance than enforceable,

On Mar 4, 2018 8:50 AM, "didymus7"  wrote:


The state of Connecticut is very innovative in one area:  Taxes. Our state
legislators (blue state) are adept at screaming about budget deficits, then
seeking ways to get more money out of the populace.  CT has had for a few
years, what amounts to an unconstitutional tax law, called the Use Tax.
The Use Tax proscribes that anything bought out of state has to be charged
CT sales tax, even if the selling entity does not have a CT office. This is
essentially a tax on interstate commerce, forbidden to states by the US
constitution.  However, by hand waving and calling it a 'Use' tax, the
courts, so far, have given it a pass.

That's the background.  Since the use tax has been initiated, Newegg has
adamantly refused to collect CT state sales tax.  Since the state of CT
can't force them to, that's their right.  However, when the state of CT
recently requested that Newegg hand over information on CT buyers for the
years 2014, 2015, 2016, they cheerfully gave up that info despite the fact
that they really didn't have to.

Luckily, I bought little from Newegg the last three years and will not
from now on.  I don't mind paying the tax, but I object to Newegg just
doing the easy stuff, then ratting me out.  Bottom line:  I'm hit up for an
extra $100 in taxes.

Just letting everyone know in case your state becomes as innovative as CT
with a 'Use' tax.

Steve

Re: [H] Newegg Screws Its Connecticut Customers

[Joshua MacCraw]

"Hit up" how, it's the sellers job to collect? That stupid law us making
it's rounds in WA also but thought it more a nuisance than enforceable,

On Mar 4, 2018 8:50 AM, "didymus7"  wrote:

> The state of Connecticut is very innovative in one area:  Taxes. Our state
> legislators (blue state) are adept at screaming about budget deficits, then
> seeking ways to get more money out of the populace.  CT has had for a few
> years, what amounts to an unconstitutional tax law, called the Use Tax.
> The Use Tax proscribes that anything bought out of state has to be charged
> CT sales tax, even if the selling entity does not have a CT office. This is
> essentially a tax on interstate commerce, forbidden to states by the US
> constitution.  However, by hand waving and calling it a 'Use' tax, the
> courts, so far, have given it a pass.
>
> That's the background.  Since the use tax has been initiated, Newegg has
> adamantly refused to collect CT state sales tax.  Since the state of CT
> can't force them to, that's their right.  However, when the state of CT
> recently requested that Newegg hand over information on CT buyers for the
> years 2014, 2015, 2016, they cheerfully gave up that info despite the fact
> that they really didn't have to.
>
> Luckily, I bought little from Newegg the last three years and will not
> from now on.  I don't mind paying the tax, but I object to Newegg just
> doing the easy stuff, then ratting me out.  Bottom line:  I'm hit up for an
> extra $100 in taxes.
>
> Just letting everyone know in case your state becomes as innovative as CT
> with a 'Use' tax.
>
> Steve
>
>

[H] Newegg Screws Its Connecticut Customers

[didymus7]

The state of Connecticut is very innovative in one area:  Taxes. Our 
state legislators (blue state) are adept at screaming about budget 
deficits, then seeking ways to get more money out of the populace.  CT 
has had for a few years, what amounts to an unconstitutional tax law, 
called the Use Tax.  The Use Tax proscribes that anything bought out of 
state has to be charged CT sales tax, even if the selling entity does 
not have a CT office. This is essentially a tax on interstate commerce, 
forbidden to states by the US constitution.  However, by hand waving and 
calling it a 'Use' tax, the courts, so far, have given it a pass.


That's the background.  Since the use tax has been initiated, Newegg has 
adamantly refused to collect CT state sales tax.  Since the state of CT 
can't force them to, that's their right.  However, when the state of CT 
recently requested that Newegg hand over information on CT buyers for 
the years 2014, 2015, 2016, they cheerfully gave up that info despite 
the fact that they really didn't have to.


Luckily, I bought little from Newegg the last three years and will not 
from now on.  I don't mind paying the tax, but I object to Newegg just 
doing the easy stuff, then ratting me out.  Bottom line:  I'm hit up for 
an extra $100 in taxes.


Just letting everyone know in case your state becomes as innovative as 
CT with a 'Use' tax.


Steve