Re: [H] Notebook hard drives

2008-02-21 Thread The Beave
You need to figure out if the notebook hard drive is SATA or PATA.  Once you
figured that out, try to find a drive with fall protection. Toshiba makes
some good drives for this, but are a bit slow in speed.  If your looking for
performance, Samsung has some good ones out right now.  Unfortunately the
Western Digital Notebook drives run hot and use a lot of voltage. 

Also, my back up is like 3 fold. Laptop is backup'd to main computer at home
over network. Home computer is backed up to External FireWare drive.
Firewire drive is backup'd at work and stored on servers there.  Right now
it's about 350GB of data.

Good luck on your search,

Tim "The Beave" Lider
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:56 AM
To: hwg
Subject: [H] Notebook hard drives

I've only had a laptop for about 18 months now and just experienced my first
HD failure.  I actually got a heads-up from SMART a few days prior that
failure was imminent so no data was lost.  But I've never dealt with
notebook HDs before so I was wondering if there was anything I should be
looking for in a replacement.

I have heard that just recently they came out with drives with on-board
encryption. I would love to have that but I'm guessing that the BIOS needs
to support it.  The laptop is an HP NC600 series that I bought refurbished
so it's a few years old.  Centrino-based and works just fine for what I
need.

Are there any incompatibility things that I should be on the look out for?
Or are most notebook drives pretty much interchangeable?

-
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation




Re: [H] Notebook hard drives

2008-02-21 Thread Brian Weeden
I've got an 80GB 2.5" drive that I bought for a portable USB that I am going
to stick in.  Then I will get a bigger 2.5" drive to put into the USB case.

My backup solution is twofold.  All my data is backup with JungleDisk to my
Amazon S3 account.  So even if the worst happens and my house burns down, I
still have everything I need.  S3 is pretty cheap to, like $0.10/GB per
month I think.  I also use SyncToy from Microsoft to sync the Jungle Drive
data on both my main PC and laptop so I can access it from both places.

Secondly, I use Acronis True Image to do images of my system weekly.  I keep
the original fresh install once I have everything perfect and then do a
differential each week.  That way if I screw something up I can go back to a
previous image.  I usually keep about 2 months worth of images.

-
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation


On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> "Brian Weeden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Are there any incompatibility things that I should be on the look out
> for?
> > Or are most notebook drives pretty much interchangeable?
>
> That unit sold with 30/40 GB drives, there might be a BIOS limitation on
> going much larger. I would guess an 80Gb would work. Get a 7200 RPM
> drive, it's worth the extra $.
>
> Get two drives and keep an up to date image on the second drive:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290208228552
> If you shop around, you may find it even cheaper. Be sure you are
> getting the PATA version.
>
> Between full images, you can copy email folders, etc. to the second
> drive. If the internal drive fails, just pop in the second drive. Back
> up and running in a few minutes.
>
> I replaced my laptop drive well before it could go bad, and use it as
> the second drive. It's seldom turned on, so it should last a long time.
> And the upgrade from 5400 to 7200 was a nice bonus.
>
> Also, never move a laptop while it's powered up. I know there are
> commercials with someone sitting on the couch with the unit in their lap.
> The big print giveth and the fine print taketh away. All of the fine
> print that comes with laptops, that I've read, say not to move it while
> it's running.
>
> Regards,
> Al
>


Re: [H] Notebook hard drives

2008-02-21 Thread Al

"Brian Weeden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Are there any incompatibility things that I should be on the look out for?
> Or are most notebook drives pretty much interchangeable?

That unit sold with 30/40 GB drives, there might be a BIOS limitation on
going much larger. I would guess an 80Gb would work. Get a 7200 RPM
drive, it's worth the extra $.

Get two drives and keep an up to date image on the second drive:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290208228552
If you shop around, you may find it even cheaper. Be sure you are
getting the PATA version.

Between full images, you can copy email folders, etc. to the second
drive. If the internal drive fails, just pop in the second drive. Back
up and running in a few minutes.

I replaced my laptop drive well before it could go bad, and use it as
the second drive. It's seldom turned on, so it should last a long time.
And the upgrade from 5400 to 7200 was a nice bonus.

Also, never move a laptop while it's powered up. I know there are
commercials with someone sitting on the couch with the unit in their lap.
The big print giveth and the fine print taketh away. All of the fine
print that comes with laptops, that I've read, say not to move it while
it's running.

Regards,
Al


Re: [H] Notebook hard drives

2008-02-21 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 08:56 AM 21/02/2008, Brian Weeden wrote:


Are there any incompatibility things that I should be on the look out for?
Or are most notebook drives pretty much interchangeable?


They are interchangeable (at least in every case I've seen.)  I would 
get an Western Digital drive over any others.


T 



[H] Notebook hard drives

2008-02-21 Thread Brian Weeden
I've only had a laptop for about 18 months now and just experienced my first
HD failure.  I actually got a heads-up from SMART a few days prior that
failure was imminent so no data was lost.  But I've never dealt with
notebook HDs before so I was wondering if there was anything I should be
looking for in a replacement.

I have heard that just recently they came out with drives with on-board
encryption. I would love to have that but I'm guessing that the BIOS needs
to support it.  The laptop is an HP NC600 series that I bought refurbished
so it's a few years old.  Centrino-based and works just fine for what I
need.

Are there any incompatibility things that I should be on the look out for?
Or are most notebook drives pretty much interchangeable?

-
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation