Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
LOL! Thane Sherrington wrote: > At 02:39 AM 10/05/2008, Gary VanderMolen wrote: >> those are uninstalled, the mail program starts working again. >> AVG and Avast are some of the antivirus products that seldom cause >> trouble. > > AVG probably doesn't cause any problems because it isn't doing much. :) > Avast is a nice product. > > T > > >
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
It's popular because it's the most common bloat-ware shipped on new PC's these days! SAVCE is what I am using but would consider NOD32 or Kapersky or nothing before I'd go anywhere near a McAwful product. Been of that mind about MA for over 10 years in fact. Unless you have a business need for Outlook, and even then I'd use it only for the specific business need not normal email, Thunderbird is much better & free. Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > This is an interesting conversation. You guys are always jumping me > when I say thing about how IT pros act like gods on PCs in corps. Well, > ITs are the ones who influence the selection of such software. > Obviously, IT pros are NOT of one opinion on what's good and what's not. > Personally, I've never liked McAfee. It doesn't even seem to make sense > in terms of how to use it. But it's free to me. And other than this > problem with Outlook (which, is likely the source of the problem > anyway), it's been working fine for months. > > BTW, this is VirusScan Enterprise 8.0.0. >
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
I used to like AVG when it was still nice and lean (about 4 yrs ago or so), but tend to use and recommend avast these days. There was a time when avg caught more virii than the commercial programs. I think maxpc had a av lineup lopaka Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 02:39 AM 10/05/2008, Gary VanderMolen wrote: >those are uninstalled, the mail program starts working again. >AVG and Avast are some of the antivirus products that seldom cause >trouble. AVG probably doesn't cause any problems because it isn't doing much. :) Avast is a nice product. T
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
At 02:39 AM 10/05/2008, Gary VanderMolen wrote: those are uninstalled, the mail program starts working again. AVG and Avast are some of the antivirus products that seldom cause trouble. AVG probably doesn't cause any problems because it isn't doing much. :) Avast is a nice product. T
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
I'm not just expressing an opinion. For the past 15 months I've been working as one of the primary support responders on Microsoft's newsgroup microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail . (Put my name in a Google search and you'll get about 39,000 hits in that capacity.) You know what the primary cause of email problems is? Mail programs corrupted by McAfee and Norton antivirus. As soon as those are uninstalled, the mail program starts working again. AVG and Avast are some of the antivirus products that seldom cause trouble. Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP -- From: "Robert Martin Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'd have to agree with Gary on this one. If you gave me a lifetime subscription to McAfee, I would still never put it on any of my personal windows boxes. I've had to fix so many boxes where mcafee was the primary problem, that I will never use it again. I use avast, avg and or clamwin lopaka "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's a ridiculous analogy, Gary. There are plenty who consider even McAfee suitable to the task it purports to do. Would I buy it? No...Do I wish my employer would get something else, yes. Do I get to demand what they purchase? No. Gary VanderMolen wrote: I wouldn't put McAfee on my PC if they paid me to do so. Would you eat free food that is spoiled? Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP -- From: "Anthony Q. Martin" :) Well...I did think of that...but I get both free...for both home and work on all of my PCs... Al wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 10:32:21 -0700 "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: Get rid of McAfee!
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
My famous quote: "The only consistency in the computer hardware/software industry is inconsistency." True for AV. For a span of 7 years, the king antivirus solution was Symantec's AV corporate edition (not to be confused with the dogshit product with a "Norton" label). Low and behold, Symantec cooks a turkey called "Endpoint Protection v11" and 2 major revisions later it's still an epic failure. McAfee had a surge of popularity in the mid 90s in part because it was a simple to use product that ran figure 8's around Norton. Somehow it became a bloated, unreliable disaster and hasn't really shaken that image after numerous acquisitions - but I'll say this...McAfee WILL be king again, if only for a year or two. Grand opportunity for all players involved now that Symantec is still wiping egg off their red faces. > Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:18:17 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows > > That's a ridiculous analogy, Gary. There are plenty who consider even > McAfee suitable to the task it purports to do. > Would I buy it? No...Do I wish my employer would get something else, > yes. Do I get to demand what they purchase? No. > > Gary VanderMolen wrote: >> I wouldn't put McAfee on my PC if they paid me to do so. >> Would you eat free food that is spoiled? >> >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP >> >> >> -- >> From: "Anthony Q. Martin" >>> :) >>> >>> Well...I did think of that...but I get both free...for both home and >>> work on all of my PCs... >>> >>> Al wrote: >>>> On Fri, 9 May 2008 10:32:21 -0700 >>>> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Get rid of McAfee! >> >> _ Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_052008
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
To be fair the enterprise version has seemed to be a different beast and has for the most part, worked OK. Our corporate office used to use mcafee but my dept boxes are built by me. lopaka "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is an interesting conversation. You guys are always jumping me when I say thing about how IT pros act like gods on PCs in corps. Well, ITs are the ones who influence the selection of such software. Obviously, IT pros are NOT of one opinion on what's good and what's not. Personally, I've never liked McAfee. It doesn't even seem to make sense in terms of how to use it. But it's free to me. And other than this problem with Outlook (which, is likely the source of the problem anyway), it's been working fine for months. BTW, this is VirusScan Enterprise 8.0.0. Robert Martin Jr. wrote: > I'd have to agree with Gary on this one. If you gave me a lifetime > subscription to McAfee, I would still never put it on any of my personal > windows boxes. I've had to fix so many boxes where mcafee was the primary > problem, that I will never use it again. > > I use avast, avg and or clamwin > > lopaka > > "Anthony Q. Martin" wrote: That's a ridiculous analogy, Gary. There are > plenty who consider even > McAfee suitable to the task it purports to do. > Would I buy it? No...Do I wish my employer would get something else, > yes. Do I get to demand what they purchase? No. > > Gary VanderMolen wrote: > >> I wouldn't put McAfee on my PC if they paid me to do so. >> Would you eat free food that is spoiled? >> >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP >> >> >> -- >> From: "Anthony Q. Martin" >> >>> :) >>> >>> Well...I did think of that...but I get both free...for both home and >>> work on all of my PCs... >>> >>> Al wrote: >>> On Fri, 9 May 2008 10:32:21 -0700 "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: > Get rid of McAfee! > >> > > >
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
This is an interesting conversation. You guys are always jumping me when I say thing about how IT pros act like gods on PCs in corps. Well, ITs are the ones who influence the selection of such software. Obviously, IT pros are NOT of one opinion on what's good and what's not. Personally, I've never liked McAfee. It doesn't even seem to make sense in terms of how to use it. But it's free to me. And other than this problem with Outlook (which, is likely the source of the problem anyway), it's been working fine for months. BTW, this is VirusScan Enterprise 8.0.0. Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I'd have to agree with Gary on this one. If you gave me a lifetime subscription to McAfee, I would still never put it on any of my personal windows boxes. I've had to fix so many boxes where mcafee was the primary problem, that I will never use it again. I use avast, avg and or clamwin lopaka "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's a ridiculous analogy, Gary. There are plenty who consider even McAfee suitable to the task it purports to do. Would I buy it? No...Do I wish my employer would get something else, yes. Do I get to demand what they purchase? No. Gary VanderMolen wrote: I wouldn't put McAfee on my PC if they paid me to do so. Would you eat free food that is spoiled? Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP -- From: "Anthony Q. Martin" :) Well...I did think of that...but I get both free...for both home and work on all of my PCs... Al wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 10:32:21 -0700 "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: Get rid of McAfee!
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
I'd have to agree with Gary on this one. If you gave me a lifetime subscription to McAfee, I would still never put it on any of my personal windows boxes. I've had to fix so many boxes where mcafee was the primary problem, that I will never use it again. I use avast, avg and or clamwin lopaka "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's a ridiculous analogy, Gary. There are plenty who consider even McAfee suitable to the task it purports to do. Would I buy it? No...Do I wish my employer would get something else, yes. Do I get to demand what they purchase? No. Gary VanderMolen wrote: > I wouldn't put McAfee on my PC if they paid me to do so. > Would you eat free food that is spoiled? > > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP > > > -- > From: "Anthony Q. Martin" >> :) >> >> Well...I did think of that...but I get both free...for both home and >> work on all of my PCs... >> >> Al wrote: >>> On Fri, 9 May 2008 10:32:21 -0700 >>> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: >>> >>> Get rid of McAfee! > >
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
Bill does >:-} fp At 05:24 PM 5/9/2008, Thane Sherrington Poked the stick with: >At 09:11 PM 09/05/2008, Wayne Johnson wrote: >>At 07:47 PM 5/9/2008, Thane Sherrington typed: >>>is more like a Big Mac than spoiled food - it adds bloat, makes you ill, and >>>lots of people think it's great. :) >> >>Sounds like you're describing Windows Vista to me. > >Nobody thinks Vista is great. :) > >T -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Hummingbirds never remember the words to songs.
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
At 09:11 PM 09/05/2008, Wayne Johnson wrote: At 07:47 PM 5/9/2008, Thane Sherrington typed: is more like a Big Mac than spoiled food - it adds bloat, makes you ill, and lots of people think it's great. :) Sounds like you're describing Windows Vista to me. Nobody thinks Vista is great. :) T
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
At 07:18 PM 09/05/2008, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: That's a ridiculous analogy, Gary. There are plenty who consider even McAfee suitable to the task it purports to do. Would I buy it? No...Do I wish my employer would get something else, yes. Do I get to demand what they purchase? No. The people who think that are wrong. Even the daily tests of McAfee shows it to be deficient. It slows the machine and causes odd problems. It's among the worst for false positives (and stupid ones at that - I've seen it flag batch files I wrote as malware (and I'm not that good.) :) I think the analogy is almost perfect - but McAfee is more like a Big Mac than spoiled food - it adds bloat, makes you ill, and lots of people think it's great. :) T
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
At 06:16 PM 09/05/2008, Gary VanderMolen wrote: I wouldn't put McAfee on my PC if they paid me to do so. Would you eat free food that is spoiled? You are totally correct. I've never seen such a crappy product that has been crappy for such a long period of time but is still for sale. I wish McAfee would close up shop and go away. T
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
That's a ridiculous analogy, Gary. There are plenty who consider even McAfee suitable to the task it purports to do. Would I buy it? No...Do I wish my employer would get something else, yes. Do I get to demand what they purchase? No. Gary VanderMolen wrote: I wouldn't put McAfee on my PC if they paid me to do so. Would you eat free food that is spoiled? Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP -- From: "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :) Well...I did think of that...but I get both free...for both home and work on all of my PCs... Al wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 10:32:21 -0700 "Gary VanderMolen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Get rid of McAfee!
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
I wouldn't put McAfee on my PC if they paid me to do so. Would you eat free food that is spoiled? Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP -- From: "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :) Well...I did think of that...but I get both free...for both home and work on all of my PCs... Al wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 10:32:21 -0700 "Gary VanderMolen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Get rid of McAfee!
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
:) Well...I did think of that...but I get both free...for both home and work on all of my PCs... Al wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 10:32:21 -0700 "Gary VanderMolen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Get rid of McAfee! And Outlook ;-)
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
On Fri, 9 May 2008 10:32:21 -0700 "Gary VanderMolen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Get rid of McAfee! And Outlook ;-) -- Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "The Space Elevator will be built about 50 years after everyone stops laughing" -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke
Re: [H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
Get rid of McAfee! Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP -- From: "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Every time I close Outlook, I get these damn notices from McAfee identifying bo:heap and a buffer overflow message. What can I do to rid myself of this?
[H] Outlook & McAfee VirusScan Buffer Overflows
Every time I close Outlook, I get these damn notices from McAfee identifying bo:heap and a buffer overflow message. What can I do to rid myself of this?
