Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question

[DSinc]

Brian,
Congrats on the new bundle of joy! Best of the Season also.
You have the correct idea. Let the switch do its' function and let the 
router do its' function; separately via patch cable. I have always done 
this. My only current difference is that I port my server to my router's 
switch ports because my router (dgl-4300) also has 10/100/1000 ports.

All works well and have yet to see any collision problems or blockages.
Best,
Duncan


Brian Weeden wrote:

Putting everything on the switch and running a cable to the router is
exactly what I meant to say.

These things happen when you mix toddler + pregnant wife + prepping for
inlaws visting for Christmas.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation 
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad  wrote:


No. Not the uplink port but rather any one of those 3 ports.

So you will have 2 devices directly on the apple router. 1 port from the
router to the switch and 1 device to the switch giving you 6 more open ports
on the router.

I say put everything on the switch and just a cable from the switch to the
apple router.

Performance should be a bit better since they are all on the single switch
fabric.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 20, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Brian Weeden  wrote:

 I'm a bit sleep deprived this morning and wanted to make sure I'm clear on

something which is probably a "duh" question.

I have more than 3 ethernet devices in my home theater rack and right now
my
router is an Airport Extreme which only has 3 ethernet ports.   I can just
add something like an 8-port Gigabit ethernet swtich, put the router on
the
uplink port, and presto, I'm all good, right?  Or am I missing something
stupid?

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation 

+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US

Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question

[Scott Sipe]

Wow, no kidding (and a lot of expecting members!)! I too joined the list when I 
was in highschool and my wife is expecting our first (a boy) in March. Not sure 
how much reality has yet sunk in... ;)

Congrats to all, and happy holidays.

Scott

On Dec 21, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Harry McGregor wrote:

> Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote:
>> Congrats on the child to come.
>> 
>> My wife is pregnant @ 7 Months and I already have a 3 1/2 year old
>> daughter and trust me it's tough (to say the least).
>> 
>> But when I come home from work my daughters reaction makes it all
>> worthwhile!
>> 
>> 
> Congrats.  This group is really growing up...  Of course I joined the
> HWG when I was in high school...
> 
> My wife and I are in a similar situation.
> 
> Rebecca is 2 weeks old today, and our son is about a 2 and 1/2 years old :)
> 
> Rebecca was born via C-Section on Dec 7th
> 
> Rebecca: http://hh.zqc.com/gallery/v/Rebecca/Our365/
> Robert: http://hh.zqc.com/gallery/v/RobRoy/PreSchool_10_09/
> 
> It's worth every minute of it.  The long nights, waking up every few
> hours to help with breast feedings, everything.
> 
> Harry
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
>> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
>> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:24 PM
>> To: hardware
>> Subject: Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question
>> 
>> Putting everything on the switch and running a cable to the router is
>> exactly what I meant to say.
>> 
>> These things happen when you mix toddler + pregnant wife + prepping for
>> inlaws visting for Christmas.
>> 
>> ---
>> Brian Weeden
>> Technical Advisor
>> Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
>> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
>> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
>> 
> 

Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question

[Harry McGregor]

Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote:
> Congrats on the child to come.
>
> My wife is pregnant @ 7 Months and I already have a 3 1/2 year old
> daughter and trust me it's tough (to say the least).
>
> But when I come home from work my daughters reaction makes it all
> worthwhile!
>
>   
Congrats.  This group is really growing up...  Of course I joined the
HWG when I was in high school...

My wife and I are in a similar situation.

Rebecca is 2 weeks old today, and our son is about a 2 and 1/2 years old :)

Rebecca was born via C-Section on Dec 7th

Rebecca: http://hh.zqc.com/gallery/v/Rebecca/Our365/
Robert: http://hh.zqc.com/gallery/v/RobRoy/PreSchool_10_09/

It's worth every minute of it.  The long nights, waking up every few
hours to help with breast feedings, everything.

 Harry

> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:24 PM
> To: hardware
> Subject: Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question
>
> Putting everything on the switch and running a cable to the router is
> exactly what I meant to say.
>
> These things happen when you mix toddler + pregnant wife + prepping for
> inlaws visting for Christmas.
>
> ---
> Brian Weeden
> Technical Advisor
> Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
>   

Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question

[Naushad, Zulfiqar]

Congrats on the child to come.

My wife is pregnant @ 7 Months and I already have a 3 1/2 year old
daughter and trust me it's tough (to say the least).

But when I come home from work my daughters reaction makes it all
worthwhile!

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:24 PM
To: hardware
Subject: Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question

Putting everything on the switch and running a cable to the router is
exactly what I meant to say.

These things happen when you mix toddler + pregnant wife + prepping for
inlaws visting for Christmas.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US

Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question

[Zulfiqar Naushad]

Yeah that would work just peachy keen.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 20, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Brian Weeden   
wrote:



Putting everything on the switch and running a cable to the router is
exactly what I meant to say.

These things happen when you mix toddler + pregnant wife + prepping  
for

inlaws visting for Christmas.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation 
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad   
wrote:



No. Not the uplink port but rather any one of those 3 ports.

So you will have 2 devices directly on the apple router. 1 port  
from the
router to the switch and 1 device to the switch giving you 6 more  
open ports

on the router.

I say put everything on the switch and just a cable from the switch  
to the

apple router.

Performance should be a bit better since they are all on the single  
switch

fabric.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 20, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Brian Weeden   
wrote:


I'm a bit sleep deprived this morning and wanted to make sure I'm  
clear on

something which is probably a "duh" question.

I have more than 3 ethernet devices in my home theater rack and  
right now

my
router is an Airport Extreme which only has 3 ethernet ports.   I  
can just
add something like an 8-port Gigabit ethernet swtich, put the  
router on

the
uplink port, and presto, I'm all good, right?  Or am I missing  
something

stupid?

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation 

+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US

Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question

[Zulfiqar Naushad]

True but I haven't come across such a switch in years.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 21, 2009, at 3:24 AM, Joe User  wrote:


Just a side mote: note all networking devices use an uplink port or
the last or first port with an activation button for that port
anymore, most of the new stuff just auto senses and automagically
configures for crossover.


--
Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question

[Bryan Seitz]

Yes this feature is called MDIX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-MDIX

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 06:24:24PM -0600, Joe User wrote:
> Just a side mote: note all networking devices use an uplink port or
> the last or first port with an activation button for that port
> anymore, most of the new stuff just auto senses and automagically
> configures for crossover.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
>  joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
> 
> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question

[Joe User]

Just a side mote: note all networking devices use an uplink port or
the last or first port with an activation button for that port
anymore, most of the new stuff just auto senses and automagically
configures for crossover.


-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question

[John R Steinbruner]

Exactly how I do it, an 8 port gig switch plugged into the router, and then all 
the devices are plugged into the switch, not the router.

Really nice that way since the PC's and NAS boxen all talk to each other at 
gigabit speeds.  Gigabit ethernet is really nice for back-ups and file 
transfers.

The router only has 10/100 ports, so all the devices talk to the internet thru 
that one connection to the router, but what the heck, 100 mbits is way faster 
than my 1.5 mbits DSL connection anyhoo..




On Dec 20, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Brian Weeden wrote:

> Putting everything on the switch and running a cable to the router is
> exactly what I meant to say.
> 
> These things happen when you mix toddler + pregnant wife + prepping for
> inlaws visting for Christmas.
> 
> ---
> Brian Weeden
> Technical Advisor
> Secure World Foundation 
> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad  wrote:
> 
>> No. Not the uplink port but rather any one of those 3 ports.
>> 
>> So you will have 2 devices directly on the apple router. 1 port from the
>> router to the switch and 1 device to the switch giving you 6 more open ports
>> on the router.
>> 
>> I say put everything on the switch and just a cable from the switch to the
>> apple router.
>> 
>> Performance should be a bit better since they are all on the single switch
>> fabric.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 20, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Brian Weeden  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm a bit sleep deprived this morning and wanted to make sure I'm clear on
>>> something which is probably a "duh" question.
>>> 
>>> I have more than 3 ethernet devices in my home theater rack and right now
>>> my
>>> router is an Airport Extreme which only has 3 ethernet ports.   I can just
>>> add something like an 8-port Gigabit ethernet swtich, put the router on
>>> the
>>> uplink port, and presto, I'm all good, right?  Or am I missing something
>>> stupid?
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Brian Weeden
>>> Technical Advisor
>>> Secure World Foundation 
>>> 
>>> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
>>> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
>>> 
>> 


-- 
JRS
stei...@pacbell.net

Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.

Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question

[Brian Weeden]

Putting everything on the switch and running a cable to the router is
exactly what I meant to say.

These things happen when you mix toddler + pregnant wife + prepping for
inlaws visting for Christmas.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation 
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad  wrote:

> No. Not the uplink port but rather any one of those 3 ports.
>
> So you will have 2 devices directly on the apple router. 1 port from the
> router to the switch and 1 device to the switch giving you 6 more open ports
> on the router.
>
> I say put everything on the switch and just a cable from the switch to the
> apple router.
>
> Performance should be a bit better since they are all on the single switch
> fabric.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Dec 20, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Brian Weeden  wrote:
>
>  I'm a bit sleep deprived this morning and wanted to make sure I'm clear on
>> something which is probably a "duh" question.
>>
>> I have more than 3 ethernet devices in my home theater rack and right now
>> my
>> router is an Airport Extreme which only has 3 ethernet ports.   I can just
>> add something like an 8-port Gigabit ethernet swtich, put the router on
>> the
>> uplink port, and presto, I'm all good, right?  Or am I missing something
>> stupid?
>>
>> ---
>> Brian Weeden
>> Technical Advisor
>> Secure World Foundation 
>>
>> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
>> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
>>
>

Re: [H] Potentially dumb networking question

[Zulfiqar Naushad]

No. Not the uplink port but rather any one of those 3 ports.

So you will have 2 devices directly on the apple router. 1 port from  
the router to the switch and 1 device to the switch giving you 6 more  
open ports on the router.


I say put everything on the switch and just a cable from the switch to  
the apple router.


Performance should be a bit better since they are all on the single  
switch fabric.


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 20, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Brian Weeden   
wrote:


I'm a bit sleep deprived this morning and wanted to make sure I'm  
clear on

something which is probably a "duh" question.

I have more than 3 ethernet devices in my home theater rack and  
right now my
router is an Airport Extreme which only has 3 ethernet ports.   I  
can just
add something like an 8-port Gigabit ethernet swtich, put the router  
on the
uplink port, and presto, I'm all good, right?  Or am I missing  
something

stupid?

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation 
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US

[H] Potentially dumb networking question

[Brian Weeden]

I'm a bit sleep deprived this morning and wanted to make sure I'm clear on
something which is probably a "duh" question.

I have more than 3 ethernet devices in my home theater rack and right now my
router is an Airport Extreme which only has 3 ethernet ports.   I can just
add something like an 8-port Gigabit ethernet swtich, put the router on the
uplink port, and presto, I'm all good, right?  Or am I missing something
stupid?

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation 
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US