Re: [H] Redownloading e-mails
At 08:44 PM 04/10/2006, Scott Sipe wrote: -- sample output for when I do this on my mindspring mail -- C:\>telnet pop.cap-press.com 110 +OK NGPopper vEL_6_10_5_1 at mindspring.com ready <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> USER cscotts +OK PASS secret +OK cscotts has 22 messages (165369 octets). retr 1 [blah blah blah message source] dele 1 +OK quit +OK C:\> Now this is a very useful email. Thanks Scott! T
Re: [H] Redownloading e-mails
Wow. Thanks, Scott. I used your procedure to determine that I have only 8 e-mails on the server for one of my accounts and, at the time, yours was the last one. So, that means that the repeatedly downloaded messages weren't being stored on the server as there were deleted. That got me to thinking. I use a spam blocker app named "SpamSubstract" by Intermute. They got bought by TrendMicro so SpamSubtract is no longer a living product. Anyway, it sits between the PC and the pop server and blocks any e-mail that's from someone not approved by me to receive e-mails from. I have the hardware list mail set to automatically come through and any addresses that I deem as being from "friends" will be allowed through too. All others get blocked before they get to my pc (no spam, no virus). I then inspect the list of others sitting in SpamSubtract and then can let any others I want come down. I can then delete all others. Well, the e-mails that would repeatedly get redownloaded were only ones I had let in previously, but never any from the hardware list, curiously. All of the ones that were deleted from the server were indeed gone. So, I got to looking around in the "Application Data" folder for SpamSubstract. I found a folder in there called "accounts" and within that folder I found two other folders for each email account. Inside each that I found "inbox", 'delete', and 'hold' folders. And inside those I found about a zillion files. I opened a few in ultraedit and found that they are EMAIL files! Actually copies of all of my emails. This damn app is caching all the e-mails I let through. Every one. Even those I delete. So, my theory now is that this app was simply uploading from my HD those files and sending them back into my e-mail program, since it's obviously in the loop, it can do that. Probably some debug code left in from testing. So, I just deleted the contents of those folders and things seem to have settled down. I sent some test e-mails to myself to both accounts and watched an open folder as I downloaded the email. It landed as a file in the folder before my e-mail program got it. I get a LOT of e-mails, too, with large files attached. Curiously, I didn't cache any emails from a mailing list which were set to automatically come through. That's why hardware list e-mails never get redownloaded...they hadn't been cached. Talk about some crappy code writers! I gotta make a decision now. Thanks, guys. Scott Sipe wrote: On Oct 4, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 07:04 PM 04/10/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > >>You probably have checked to leave your mail on the server. > >>Change it to delete mail on server. > >No, that's not it. These e-mails were supposed to be deleted forever > >ago. They don't show up when I log in. I have that setting right > >now, yet to login in long enough to see your message< I've got 900 > >e-mails downloaded again! I've deleted them 3 or 4 time > >today. Funny thing, this will stop for several days and then start > >up again. Today it's really bad. > > > >HELP > > So you you have two separate accounts doing the same thing? Have you > tried going into webmail and deleting them there? Yes. It happens on personal and work accounts, but only at home. I'm into webmail right now and only see a couple of e-mails, starting with sam's. Yet, if I open Thunderbird, it started downloading about 1000 e-mails that go back to the beginning of this year. Obvious, this mail is on the server even though I don't see it in either webmail programs. I don't get it. Also, if I use OE or OUTLOOK at home, the same thing happens. So, it's independent of e-mail program. I assume you're using POP? Are you using IMAP / Webmail and maybe getting folder contents moving back into your inbox? You can also do a little snooping around with telnet... if you're using POP telnet to your email server, port 110 (ie for me, "telnet pop.mindspring.com 110") to login USER username [enter] PASS password [enter] (you should get "+OK" after every command you enter) then you can enter other commands the command "LIST [enter]" will give a list of messages waiting to be downloaded, and give you the total number on the server. So you can see if there are just a bunch of random messages still sitting around on your server? And then you can type "RETR x [enter]" where X is a number of a message to see the text of the message. To delete a message you can type "DELE x" where X is the message number. telnet has been pretty useful for me in the past as a way to manually debug what's going on with POP, email programs and servers...so many of them try to be too smart!! -- sample output for when I do this on my mindspring mail -- C:\>telnet pop.cap-press.com 110 +OK NGPopper vEL_6_10_5_1 at mindspring.com ready <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> USER cscotts +OK PASS secret
Re: [H] Redownloading e-mails
> On my home PC, the same e-mails keep getting downloaded time and time > again. You may want to turn on logging in OE: Tools, Options, Maintenance, in the Troubleshooting section select Mail. The next time OE connects to the server, all commands between the client and server are logged. Gary VanderMolen
Re: [H] Redownloading e-mails
On Oct 4, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 07:04 PM 04/10/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > >>You probably have checked to leave your mail on the server. > >>Change it to delete mail on server. > >No, that's not it. These e-mails were supposed to be deleted forever > >ago. They don't show up when I log in. I have that setting right > >now, yet to login in long enough to see your message< I've got 900 > >e-mails downloaded again! I've deleted them 3 or 4 time > >today. Funny thing, this will stop for several days and then start > >up again. Today it's really bad. > > > >HELP > > So you you have two separate accounts doing the same thing? Have you > tried going into webmail and deleting them there? Yes. It happens on personal and work accounts, but only at home. I'm into webmail right now and only see a couple of e-mails, starting with sam's. Yet, if I open Thunderbird, it started downloading about 1000 e-mails that go back to the beginning of this year. Obvious, this mail is on the server even though I don't see it in either webmail programs. I don't get it. Also, if I use OE or OUTLOOK at home, the same thing happens. So, it's independent of e-mail program. I assume you're using POP? Are you using IMAP / Webmail and maybe getting folder contents moving back into your inbox? You can also do a little snooping around with telnet... if you're using POP telnet to your email server, port 110 (ie for me, "telnet pop.mindspring.com 110") to login USER username [enter] PASS password [enter] (you should get "+OK" after every command you enter) then you can enter other commands the command "LIST [enter]" will give a list of messages waiting to be downloaded, and give you the total number on the server. So you can see if there are just a bunch of random messages still sitting around on your server? And then you can type "RETR x [enter]" where X is a number of a message to see the text of the message. To delete a message you can type "DELE x" where X is the message number. telnet has been pretty useful for me in the past as a way to manually debug what's going on with POP, email programs and servers...so many of them try to be too smart!! -- sample output for when I do this on my mindspring mail -- C:\>telnet pop.cap-press.com 110 +OK NGPopper vEL_6_10_5_1 at mindspring.com ready <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> USER cscotts +OK PASS secret +OK cscotts has 22 messages (165369 octets). retr 1 [blah blah blah message source] dele 1 +OK quit +OK C:\> -- Scott
Re: [H] Redownloading e-mails
Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> At 07:04 PM 04/10/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:>>> >>You probably have checked to leave your mail on the server.> >>Change it to delete mail on server.> >No, that's not it. These e-mails were supposed to be deleted forever> >ago. They don't show up when I log in. I have that setting right> >now, yet to login in long enough to see your message< I've got 900> >e-mails downloaded again! I've deleted them 3 or 4 time> >today. Funny thing, this will stop for several days and then start> >up again. Today it's really bad.> >> >HELP>> So you you have two separate accounts doing the same thing? Have you> tried going into webmail and deleting them there? Yes. It happens on personal and work accounts, but only at home. I'm into webmail right now and only see a couple of e-mails, starting with sam's. Yet, if I open Thunderbird, it started downloading about 1000 e-mails that go back to the beginning of this year. Obvious, this mail is on the server even though I don't see it in either webmail programs. I don't get it. Also, if I use OE or OUTLOOK at home, the same thing happens. So, it's independent of e-mail program.
Re: [H] Redownloading e-mails
At 07:04 PM 04/10/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You probably have checked to leave your mail on the server. Change it to delete mail on server. No, that's not it. These e-mails were supposed to be deleted forever ago. They don't show up when I log in. I have that setting right now, yet to login in long enough to see your message< I've got 900 e-mails downloaded again! I've deleted them 3 or 4 time today. Funny thing, this will stop for several days and then start up again. Today it's really bad. HELP So you you have two separate accounts doing the same thing? Have you tried going into webmail and deleting them there? T
Re: [H] Redownloading e-mails
Sam Franc wrote: Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Guys, On my home PC, the same e-mails keep getting downloaded time and time again. That's both home e-mail (personal account) and work email. It doesn't happen at work (OE). But it happens at home no matter if I'm using OE, Thunderbird, or Outlook. It's driving me nuts, as it goes back to the first of the year! Just in the last 10 minutes, it's downloaded 100s over e-mails twice. I've got to find a solution for this or i'll be forced to only use webmail at home. Thanks. You probably have checked to leave your mail on the server. Change it to delete mail on server. No, that's not it. These e-mails were supposed to be deleted forever ago. They don't show up when I log in. I have that setting right now, yet to login in long enough to see your message< I've got 900 e-mails downloaded again! I've deleted them 3 or 4 time today. Funny thing, this will stop for several days and then start up again. Today it's really bad. HELP
Re: [H] Redownloading e-mails
Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Guys, On my home PC, the same e-mails keep getting downloaded time and time again. That's both home e-mail (personal account) and work email. It doesn't happen at work (OE). But it happens at home no matter if I'm using OE, Thunderbird, or Outlook. It's driving me nuts, as it goes back to the first of the year! Just in the last 10 minutes, it's downloaded 100s over e-mails twice. I've got to find a solution for this or i'll be forced to only use webmail at home. Thanks. You probably have checked to leave your mail on the server. Change it to delete mail on server. Sam
[H] Redownloading e-mails
Guys, On my home PC, the same e-mails keep getting downloaded time and time again. That's both home e-mail (personal account) and work email. It doesn't happen at work (OE). But it happens at home no matter if I'm using OE, Thunderbird, or Outlook. It's driving me nuts, as it goes back to the first of the year! Just in the last 10 minutes, it's downloaded 100s over e-mails twice. I've got to find a solution for this or i'll be forced to only use webmail at home. Thanks.
