Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
I'm just guessing... How would they line up to do the multiple checks? Wouldn't it go something like this: A call to read a file, hooked into the AV instead. AV scans, returns to the original destination of the read request. Since there is no obvious way to send it off to do a second AV scan, I think running two would be a problem. Or they would at least have to be aware of each other and co-operate. Or the OS could handle it, if they wanted to. Besides, I think *everyone* has always said that was a bad idea. Rick Glazier From: "Thane Sherrington" At 01:45 PM 23/02/2009, Veech wrote: yeah the idea here is that one program will catch something that another program may miss. Obviously it doesn't hurt to run them separately. But does it do any harm to run them at the same time? Will one stop another from checking a file? It might, but I've never seen it. T
Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
Hello FORC5, Monday, February 23, 2009, 7:31:45 PM, you wrote: > I find turning off daily scans perks AVG up, seems to scan on boot > and really bogs things down. Or schedule it middle of the night. > I only use AVG free on my Vista play box. > fp I don't use AV anymore. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
I find turning off daily scans perks AVG up, seems to scan on boot and really bogs things down. Or schedule it middle of the night. I only use AVG free on my Vista play box. fp At 06:02 PM 2/23/2009, Veech Poked the stick with: >I found that running AVG in the background really gums things up. Slows >everything down quote a bit, so I quit running it in the background as well. > >yeah, I'll stick with running one program at a time. > >thanks! > > >- Original -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Network? I'm retired, I don't do no work never.
Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
Veech, You seem to have seen what I saw when I spent time testing AVG. It may be "small" but it seems to do so much in the background that the entire machine can (I saw this twice) grind to a halt. Is AVG a good A/V product? I suspect so. It is highly rated on the WildersSecurity forums. I just know that I do not seem to have a proper platform yet to live with it! I do use AVG as a temporary A/V here. I use ESET. Best, Duncan At 17:02 02/23/2009 -0800, you wrote: I found that running AVG in the background really gums things up. Slows everything down quote a bit, so I quit running it in the background as well. yeah, I'll stick with running one program at a time. thanks! - Original Message - From: "DHSinclair" To: Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 16:55 Subject: Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once? Veech, Over our many years, we have tried and suggested many models (individual) for keeping the baddies at bay. I have followed all of the suggested models. Not one of them have been perfect! Whatever you feel is OK is okay with meI just do not know. Personally, I use ESET. If I suspect that something "bad" got thru, I use Spybot, Malwarebytes, and, any other tool suggested by the folks at the WildersSecurity.com forum site. I do NOT run multiple A/V proggies at the same time. I do NOT even use any background scanners either, well unless anyone considers the MS KB890830 business a reasonably scanner! LOL! So far, I have lived 27 months without any concern...Am I completely "virus-free?" Perhaps not. But, I have not gotten a single email from anybody about my "dirty" sends. I gave up being completely virgin way back in mid-2001. If the bad-guys want me, they will have me! I have accepted this fact. I have made their gain as tough as I can ATM. I follow the Collective for suggestions on how to improve my meager defensives. HTH, Duncan At 09:45 02/23/2009 -0800, you wrote: yeah the idea here is that one program will catch something that another program may miss. Obviously it doesn't hurt to run them separately. But does it do any harm to run them at the same time? Will one stop another from checking a file? - Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington" To: Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 09:29 Subject: Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once? At 01:21 PM 23/02/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 05:11 PM 20/02/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Veech wrote: > Is there any harm in running more than one AV program at the same time? I > have three programs installed, AVG 8.0, Spy-Bot and Malwarebyte. They > each take about 45 mins to 1 hr to run. Sometimes I'll run 2 of them > overnight at the same time. Is there any way that doing this will cause > either one to miss something? Could I possibly run all 3 at the same > time? Running something like Spy Bot or Malwarebytes at the same time as an Antivirus scan is unnessary. Think about it: Your AV program has an "on access" scanner. When you scan your computer for Malware using Malwarebytes, it's opening up each file and looking at it for malware. Before the AV program lets Malwarebytes look at the program it scans it, and if it's detected as a virus you will get a notification. I disagree. Running Malwarebytes gives you a double check. 1)Malwarebytes attempts to open the file, your AV checks it. 2)If the AV finds nothing (and since you're running AVG, that's very likely) Malwarebytes will scan it. So it's a double check, and frankly, with AVG, you need it. I didn't say that you don't run Malwarebytes, I said you don't run a separate AV check, it gets checked while you run the AV. Oh. Then I guess I agree with you. :) T __ NOD32 3881 (20090223) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 3882 (20090223) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
True words comrades I tell ppl all the time, nothing will protect you 100%, one must practice safe computing. easy for us to say I know. PPL by new units, trial AV expires and no one ever does anything about it. I should not complain, money for me :-D even retired I still help the needy. :-) fp At 05:55 PM 2/23/2009, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: >Veech, >Over our many years, we have tried and suggested many models (individual) for >keeping the baddies at bay. I have followed all of the suggested models. Not >one of them have been perfect! >Whatever you feel is OK is okay with meI just do not know. > >Personally, I use ESET. If I suspect that something "bad" got thru, I use >Spybot, Malwarebytes, and, any other tool suggested by the folks at the >WildersSecurity.com forum site. > >I do NOT run multiple A/V proggies at the same time. I do NOT even use any >background scanners either, well unless anyone considers the MS KB890830 >business a reasonably scanner! LOL! > >So far, I have lived 27 months without any concern...Am I completely >"virus-free?" Perhaps not. But, I have not gotten a single email from >anybody about my "dirty" sends. > >I gave up being completely virgin way back in mid-2001. If the bad-guys want >me, they will have me! I have accepted this fact. I have made their gain as >tough as I can ATM. I follow the Collective for suggestions on how to improve >my meager defensives. >HTH, >Duncan -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Network? I'm retired, I don't do no work never.
Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
I found that running AVG in the background really gums things up. Slows everything down quote a bit, so I quit running it in the background as well. yeah, I'll stick with running one program at a time. thanks! - Original Message - From: "DHSinclair" To: Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 16:55 Subject: Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once? Veech, Over our many years, we have tried and suggested many models (individual) for keeping the baddies at bay. I have followed all of the suggested models. Not one of them have been perfect! Whatever you feel is OK is okay with meI just do not know. Personally, I use ESET. If I suspect that something "bad" got thru, I use Spybot, Malwarebytes, and, any other tool suggested by the folks at the WildersSecurity.com forum site. I do NOT run multiple A/V proggies at the same time. I do NOT even use any background scanners either, well unless anyone considers the MS KB890830 business a reasonably scanner! LOL! So far, I have lived 27 months without any concern...Am I completely "virus-free?" Perhaps not. But, I have not gotten a single email from anybody about my "dirty" sends. I gave up being completely virgin way back in mid-2001. If the bad-guys want me, they will have me! I have accepted this fact. I have made their gain as tough as I can ATM. I follow the Collective for suggestions on how to improve my meager defensives. HTH, Duncan At 09:45 02/23/2009 -0800, you wrote: yeah the idea here is that one program will catch something that another program may miss. Obviously it doesn't hurt to run them separately. But does it do any harm to run them at the same time? Will one stop another from checking a file? - Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington" To: Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 09:29 Subject: Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once? At 01:21 PM 23/02/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 05:11 PM 20/02/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Veech wrote: > Is there any harm in running more than one AV program at the same time? I > have three programs installed, AVG 8.0, Spy-Bot and Malwarebyte. They > each take about 45 mins to 1 hr to run. Sometimes I'll run 2 of them > overnight at the same time. Is there any way that doing this will cause > either one to miss something? Could I possibly run all 3 at the same > time? Running something like Spy Bot or Malwarebytes at the same time as an Antivirus scan is unnessary. Think about it: Your AV program has an "on access" scanner. When you scan your computer for Malware using Malwarebytes, it's opening up each file and looking at it for malware. Before the AV program lets Malwarebytes look at the program it scans it, and if it's detected as a virus you will get a notification. I disagree. Running Malwarebytes gives you a double check. 1)Malwarebytes attempts to open the file, your AV checks it. 2)If the AV finds nothing (and since you're running AVG, that's very likely) Malwarebytes will scan it. So it's a double check, and frankly, with AVG, you need it. I didn't say that you don't run Malwarebytes, I said you don't run a separate AV check, it gets checked while you run the AV. Oh. Then I guess I agree with you. :) T __ NOD32 3881 (20090223) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
Veech, Over our many years, we have tried and suggested many models (individual) for keeping the baddies at bay. I have followed all of the suggested models. Not one of them have been perfect! Whatever you feel is OK is okay with meI just do not know. Personally, I use ESET. If I suspect that something "bad" got thru, I use Spybot, Malwarebytes, and, any other tool suggested by the folks at the WildersSecurity.com forum site. I do NOT run multiple A/V proggies at the same time. I do NOT even use any background scanners either, well unless anyone considers the MS KB890830 business a reasonably scanner! LOL! So far, I have lived 27 months without any concern...Am I completely "virus-free?" Perhaps not. But, I have not gotten a single email from anybody about my "dirty" sends. I gave up being completely virgin way back in mid-2001. If the bad-guys want me, they will have me! I have accepted this fact. I have made their gain as tough as I can ATM. I follow the Collective for suggestions on how to improve my meager defensives. HTH, Duncan At 09:45 02/23/2009 -0800, you wrote: yeah the idea here is that one program will catch something that another program may miss. Obviously it doesn't hurt to run them separately. But does it do any harm to run them at the same time? Will one stop another from checking a file? - Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington" To: Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 09:29 Subject: Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once? At 01:21 PM 23/02/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 05:11 PM 20/02/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Veech wrote: > Is there any harm in running more than one AV program at the same time? I > have three programs installed, AVG 8.0, Spy-Bot and Malwarebyte. They > each take about 45 mins to 1 hr to run. Sometimes I'll run 2 of them > overnight at the same time. Is there any way that doing this will cause > either one to miss something? Could I possibly run all 3 at the same > time? Running something like Spy Bot or Malwarebytes at the same time as an Antivirus scan is unnessary. Think about it: Your AV program has an "on access" scanner. When you scan your computer for Malware using Malwarebytes, it's opening up each file and looking at it for malware. Before the AV program lets Malwarebytes look at the program it scans it, and if it's detected as a virus you will get a notification. I disagree. Running Malwarebytes gives you a double check. 1)Malwarebytes attempts to open the file, your AV checks it. 2)If the AV finds nothing (and since you're running AVG, that's very likely) Malwarebytes will scan it. So it's a double check, and frankly, with AVG, you need it. I didn't say that you don't run Malwarebytes, I said you don't run a separate AV check, it gets checked while you run the AV. Oh. Then I guess I agree with you. :) T __ NOD32 3881 (20090223) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
At 01:45 PM 23/02/2009, Veech wrote: yeah the idea here is that one program will catch something that another program may miss. Obviously it doesn't hurt to run them separately. But does it do any harm to run them at the same time? Will one stop another from checking a file? It might, but I've never seen it. T
Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
yeah the idea here is that one program will catch something that another program may miss. Obviously it doesn't hurt to run them separately. But does it do any harm to run them at the same time? Will one stop another from checking a file? - Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington" To: Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 09:29 Subject: Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once? At 01:21 PM 23/02/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 05:11 PM 20/02/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Veech wrote: > Is there any harm in running more than one AV program at the same time? I > have three programs installed, AVG 8.0, Spy-Bot and Malwarebyte. They > each take about 45 mins to 1 hr to run. Sometimes I'll run 2 of them > overnight at the same time. Is there any way that doing this will cause > either one to miss something? Could I possibly run all 3 at the same > time? Running something like Spy Bot or Malwarebytes at the same time as an Antivirus scan is unnessary. Think about it: Your AV program has an "on access" scanner. When you scan your computer for Malware using Malwarebytes, it's opening up each file and looking at it for malware. Before the AV program lets Malwarebytes look at the program it scans it, and if it's detected as a virus you will get a notification. I disagree. Running Malwarebytes gives you a double check. 1)Malwarebytes attempts to open the file, your AV checks it. 2)If the AV finds nothing (and since you're running AVG, that's very likely) Malwarebytes will scan it. So it's a double check, and frankly, with AVG, you need it. I didn't say that you don't run Malwarebytes, I said you don't run a separate AV check, it gets checked while you run the AV. Oh. Then I guess I agree with you. :) T
Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
At 01:21 PM 23/02/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 05:11 PM 20/02/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Veech wrote: > Is there any harm in running more than one AV program at the same time? I > have three programs installed, AVG 8.0, Spy-Bot and Malwarebyte. They > each take about 45 mins to 1 hr to run. Sometimes I'll run 2 of them > overnight at the same time. Is there any way that doing this will cause > either one to miss something? Could I possibly run all 3 at the same > time? Running something like Spy Bot or Malwarebytes at the same time as an Antivirus scan is unnessary. Think about it: Your AV program has an "on access" scanner. When you scan your computer for Malware using Malwarebytes, it's opening up each file and looking at it for malware. Before the AV program lets Malwarebytes look at the program it scans it, and if it's detected as a virus you will get a notification. I disagree. Running Malwarebytes gives you a double check. 1)Malwarebytes attempts to open the file, your AV checks it. 2)If the AV finds nothing (and since you're running AVG, that's very likely) Malwarebytes will scan it. So it's a double check, and frankly, with AVG, you need it. I didn't say that you don't run Malwarebytes, I said you don't run a separate AV check, it gets checked while you run the AV. Oh. Then I guess I agree with you. :) T
Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 05:11 PM 20/02/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Veech wrote: > Is there any harm in running more than one AV program at the same time? I > have three programs installed, AVG 8.0, Spy-Bot and Malwarebyte. They > each take about 45 mins to 1 hr to run. Sometimes I'll run 2 of them > overnight at the same time. Is there any way that doing this will cause > either one to miss something? Could I possibly run all 3 at the same > time? Running something like Spy Bot or Malwarebytes at the same time as an Antivirus scan is unnessary. Think about it: Your AV program has an "on access" scanner. When you scan your computer for Malware using Malwarebytes, it's opening up each file and looking at it for malware. Before the AV program lets Malwarebytes look at the program it scans it, and if it's detected as a virus you will get a notification. I disagree. Running Malwarebytes gives you a double check. 1)Malwarebytes attempts to open the file, your AV checks it. 2)If the AV finds nothing (and since you're running AVG, that's very likely) Malwarebytes will scan it. So it's a double check, and frankly, with AVG, you need it. I didn't say that you don't run Malwarebytes, I said you don't run a separate AV check, it gets checked while you run the AV. Christopher Fisk -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
At 05:11 PM 20/02/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Veech wrote: Is there any harm in running more than one AV program at the same time? I have three programs installed, AVG 8.0, Spy-Bot and Malwarebyte. They each take about 45 mins to 1 hr to run. Sometimes I'll run 2 of them overnight at the same time. Is there any way that doing this will cause either one to miss something? Could I possibly run all 3 at the same time? Running something like Spy Bot or Malwarebytes at the same time as an Antivirus scan is unnessary. Think about it: Your AV program has an "on access" scanner. When you scan your computer for Malware using Malwarebytes, it's opening up each file and looking at it for malware. Before the AV program lets Malwarebytes look at the program it scans it, and if it's detected as a virus you will get a notification. I disagree. Running Malwarebytes gives you a double check. 1)Malwarebytes attempts to open the file, your AV checks it. 2)If the AV finds nothing (and since you're running AVG, that's very likely) Malwarebytes will scan it. So it's a double check, and frankly, with AVG, you need it. T
Re: [H] Running multiple AVs at once?
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Veech wrote: Is there any harm in running more than one AV program at the same time? I have three programs installed, AVG 8.0, Spy-Bot and Malwarebyte. They each take about 45 mins to 1 hr to run. Sometimes I'll run 2 of them overnight at the same time. Is there any way that doing this will cause either one to miss something? Could I possibly run all 3 at the same time? Running something like Spy Bot or Malwarebytes at the same time as an Antivirus scan is unnessary. Think about it: Your AV program has an "on access" scanner. When you scan your computer for Malware using Malwarebytes, it's opening up each file and looking at it for malware. Before the AV program lets Malwarebytes look at the program it scans it, and if it's detected as a virus you will get a notification. Christopher Fisk -- Merchant: Sir, I must strongly advise you, do not purchase this. Behind every wish lurks grave misfortune. I, myself, was one president of Algeria. Homer: C'mon, pal, I don't want to hear your life story! Paw me. Treehouse of Horror II -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
[H] Running multiple AVs at once?
Is there any harm in running more than one AV program at the same time? I have three programs installed, AVG 8.0, Spy-Bot and Malwarebyte. They each take about 45 mins to 1 hr to run. Sometimes I'll run 2 of them overnight at the same time. Is there any way that doing this will cause either one to miss something? Could I possibly run all 3 at the same time?
