Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-10 Thread Steve Tomporowski

Sorry to hear that.  Duncan will be missed .

On 8/9/2021 5:40 PM, DSinc wrote:

To all,

I can't send just a singular message to youse guys [his Thunderbird 
says the following message is too large for his program to handle.] so 
I'm responding to a recent email.


To let you know of the passing of Duncan 8/9/21 in the a.m.  He was in 
the hospital since Friday and had a massive heart attack this 
morning.  The group is in Lopaka's capable hands and continued success 
is wished for the group.


Sincerely,

Bonny Sinclair (Duncan's sister)




On 8/9/2021 5:15 PM, Scott Sipe wrote:
What kind of AMD servers are you getting? I'd love to get an EPYC 
tower for
work. Our current small office server is a Dell PowerEdge Xeon from 
2017.


Scott

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:39 AM Greg Sevart  wrote:


My vote would be 5800X.

I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in use. Zen 3 is a beast. 
I've got

Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket Lake cores in use too (and of
course older iterations of both AMD and Intel cores), but the 
machines I

really care most about are running AMD cores right now. Even the latest
bulk order of servers I placed at work are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.

My general stance has always been "tie goes to Intel" - so this is 
pretty
telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have I been this far on the AMD 
side of

the fence.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of
Steve Tomporowski
Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?

Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system. Which Ryzen
processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system is 
fine, but
I don't know when I could ever afford a video card again. Luckily I 
never

sold my GTX 750.

Steve

On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:

Still Alive?

al




Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-10 Thread Thane K. Sherrington
That's terrible news - I remember Duncan very fondly.  My thoughts are 
with your and you have my deepest condolences.


On 2021-08-09 6:40 p.m., DSinc wrote:

To all,

I can't send just a singular message to youse guys [his Thunderbird 
says the following message is too large for his program to handle.] so 
I'm responding to a recent email.


To let you know of the passing of Duncan 8/9/21 in the a.m.  He was in 
the hospital since Friday and had a massive heart attack this 
morning.  The group is in Lopaka's capable hands and continued success 
is wished for the group.


Sincerely,

Bonny Sinclair (Duncan's sister)




On 8/9/2021 5:15 PM, Scott Sipe wrote:
What kind of AMD servers are you getting? I'd love to get an EPYC 
tower for
work. Our current small office server is a Dell PowerEdge Xeon from 
2017.


Scott

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:39 AM Greg Sevart  wrote:


My vote would be 5800X.

I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in use. Zen 3 is a beast. 
I've got

Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket Lake cores in use too (and of
course older iterations of both AMD and Intel cores), but the 
machines I

really care most about are running AMD cores right now. Even the latest
bulk order of servers I placed at work are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.

My general stance has always been "tie goes to Intel" - so this is 
pretty
telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have I been this far on the AMD 
side of

the fence.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of
Steve Tomporowski
Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?

Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system. Which Ryzen
processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system is 
fine, but
I don't know when I could ever afford a video card again. Luckily I 
never

sold my GTX 750.

Steve

On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:

Still Alive?

al










Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-10 Thread Z00100
  
  

 This is super sad. May he Rest In Peace. 
  
  
  

  

  
  
>   
>  On Aug 10, 2021 at 12:53 PM (x-apple-data-detectors://0),   (mailto:jzo...@radiantnetworks.net)>  wrote:
>   
>   
>   
>  Damn, very sorry to hear :( Thoughts and condolences to you and your family. 
> He will be missed!  Julian (Sabre) On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 1:46 AM Joshua 
> MacCraw  mailto:maccr...@gmail.com)>  wrote:  >  OMG RIP 
> Duncan!  >   >  On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:11 PM FORC5   (mailto:fuf...@cox.net)>  wrote:  >   >   >   >   >  DAM, Duncan was a good 
> friend  >   >   >   >  fuf  >   >   >   >  On 8/9/2021 2:40 PM, DSinc wrote:  
> >   >   >  To all,  >   >   >   >   >   >  I can't send just a singular 
> message to  >   >   >  youse guys [his Thunderbird says the  >   >   >  
> following message is too large for his  >   >   >  program to handle.] so I'm 
> responding to a  >   >   >  recent email.  >   >   >   >   >   >  To let you 
> know of the passing of Duncan  >   >   >  8/9/21 in the a.m. He was in the 
> hospital  >   >   >  since Friday and had a massive heart attack  >   >   >  
> this morning. The group is in Lopaka's  >   >   >  capable hands and 
> continued success is  >   >   >  wished for the group.  >   >   >   >   >   > 
>  Sincerely,  >   >   >   >   >   >  Bonny Sinclair (Duncan's sister)  >   >   
> >   >   >   >   >   >   >   >   >   >   >   >   >  On 8/9/2021 5:15 PM, Scott 
> Sipe wrote:  >   >   >>  What kind of AMD servers are you getting?  >   >   
> >>  I'd love to get an EPYC tower for  >   >   >>  work. Our current small 
> office server is a  >   >   >>  Dell PowerEdge Xeon from 2017.  >   >   >>   
> >   >   >>  Scott  >   >   >>   >   >   >>  On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:39 AM 
> Greg  >   >   >>  Sevart  mailto:ad...@xfury.net)>  wrote:  
> >   >   >>   >   >   >>>  My vote would be 5800X.  >   >   >>>   >   >   >>>  
> I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in  >   >   >>>  use. Zen 3 is a 
> beast. I've got  >   >   >>>  Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket  >   
> >   >>>  Lake cores in use too (and of  >   >   >>>  course older iterations 
> of both AMD and  >   >   >>>  Intel cores), but the machines I  >   >   >>>  
> really care most about are running AMD  >   >   >>>  cores right now. Even 
> the latest  >   >   >>>  bulk order of servers I placed at work  >   >   >>>  
> are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.  >   >   >>>   >   >   >>>  My general 
> stance has always been "tie  >   >   >>>  goes to Intel" - so this is pretty  
> >   >   >>>  telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have  >   >   >>>  I been 
> this far on the AMD side of  >   >   >>>  the fence.  >   >   >>>   >   >   
> >>>  Greg  >   >   >>>   >   >   >>>  -Original Message-  >   >   >>> 
>  From: Hardware  >   >   >>>(mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com)>   >   >   >>>  On Behalf 
> Of  >   >   >>>  Steve Tomporowski  >   >   >>>  Sent: Saturday, August 7, 
> 2021 7:38 PM  >   >   >>>  To:  hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com 
> (mailto:hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com)   >   >   >>>  Subject: Re: [H] 
> Still alive?  >   >   >>>   >   >   >>>  Still here. Thinking finally of 
> building  >   >   >>>  a Ryzen system. Which Ryzen  >   >   >>>  processor is 
> the sweet spot these days?  >   >   >>>  Building a new system is fine, but  
> >   >   >>>  I don't know when I could ever afford a  >   >   >>>  video card 
> again. Luckily I never  >   >   >>>  sold my GTX 750.  >   >   >>>   >   >   
> >>>  Steve  >   >   >>>   >   >   >>>  On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:  >   
> >   >>>>  Still Alive?  >   >   >>>>   >   >   >>>>  al  >   >   >>>   >   >  
>  >   >   >   
>
>   
  
  



Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-10 Thread Julian Zottl
Damn, very sorry to hear :(  Thoughts and condolences to you and your
family.  He will be missed!


Julian (Sabre)


On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 1:46 AM Joshua MacCraw  wrote:

> OMG RIP Duncan!
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:11 PM FORC5  wrote:
>
> >
> > DAM, Duncan was a good friend
> >
> > fuf
> >
> > On 8/9/2021 2:40 PM, DSinc wrote:
> > > To all,
> > >
> > > I can't send just a singular message to
> > > youse guys [his Thunderbird says the
> > > following message is too large for his
> > > program to handle.] so I'm responding to a
> > > recent email.
> > >
> > > To let you know of the passing of Duncan
> > > 8/9/21 in the a.m.  He was in the hospital
> > > since Friday and had a massive heart attack
> > > this morning.  The group is in Lopaka's
> > > capable hands and continued success is
> > > wished for the group.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Bonny Sinclair (Duncan's sister)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/9/2021 5:15 PM, Scott Sipe wrote:
> > >> What kind of AMD servers are you getting?
> > >> I'd love to get an EPYC tower for
> > >> work. Our current small office server is a
> > >> Dell PowerEdge Xeon from 2017.
> > >>
> > >> Scott
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:39 AM Greg
> > >> Sevart  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> My vote would be 5800X.
> > >>>
> > >>> I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in
> > >>> use. Zen 3 is a beast. I've got
> > >>> Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket
> > >>> Lake cores in use too (and of
> > >>> course older iterations of both AMD and
> > >>> Intel cores), but the machines I
> > >>> really care most about are running AMD
> > >>> cores right now. Even the latest
> > >>> bulk order of servers I placed at work
> > >>> are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.
> > >>>
> > >>> My general stance has always been "tie
> > >>> goes to Intel" - so this is pretty
> > >>> telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have
> > >>> I been this far on the AMD side of
> > >>> the fence.
> > >>>
> > >>> Greg
> > >>>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: Hardware
> > >>> 
> > >>> On Behalf Of
> > >>> Steve Tomporowski
> > >>> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
> > >>> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > >>> Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?
> > >>>
> > >>> Still here.  Thinking finally of building
> > >>> a Ryzen system. Which Ryzen
> > >>> processor is the sweet spot these days?
> > >>> Building a new system is fine, but
> > >>> I don't know when I could ever afford a
> > >>> video card again. Luckily I never
> > >>> sold my GTX 750.
> > >>>
> > >>> Steve
> > >>>
> > >>> On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:
> > >>>> Still Alive?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> al
> > >>>
> >
> >
>


Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-09 Thread Joshua MacCraw
OMG RIP Duncan!

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:11 PM FORC5  wrote:

>
> DAM, Duncan was a good friend
>
> fuf
>
> On 8/9/2021 2:40 PM, DSinc wrote:
> > To all,
> >
> > I can't send just a singular message to
> > youse guys [his Thunderbird says the
> > following message is too large for his
> > program to handle.] so I'm responding to a
> > recent email.
> >
> > To let you know of the passing of Duncan
> > 8/9/21 in the a.m.  He was in the hospital
> > since Friday and had a massive heart attack
> > this morning.  The group is in Lopaka's
> > capable hands and continued success is
> > wished for the group.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Bonny Sinclair (Duncan's sister)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/9/2021 5:15 PM, Scott Sipe wrote:
> >> What kind of AMD servers are you getting?
> >> I'd love to get an EPYC tower for
> >> work. Our current small office server is a
> >> Dell PowerEdge Xeon from 2017.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:39 AM Greg
> >> Sevart  wrote:
> >>
> >>> My vote would be 5800X.
> >>>
> >>> I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in
> >>> use. Zen 3 is a beast. I've got
> >>> Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket
> >>> Lake cores in use too (and of
> >>> course older iterations of both AMD and
> >>> Intel cores), but the machines I
> >>> really care most about are running AMD
> >>> cores right now. Even the latest
> >>> bulk order of servers I placed at work
> >>> are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.
> >>>
> >>> My general stance has always been "tie
> >>> goes to Intel" - so this is pretty
> >>> telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have
> >>> I been this far on the AMD side of
> >>> the fence.
> >>>
> >>> Greg
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Hardware
> >>> 
> >>> On Behalf Of
> >>> Steve Tomporowski
> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
> >>> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?
> >>>
> >>> Still here.  Thinking finally of building
> >>> a Ryzen system. Which Ryzen
> >>> processor is the sweet spot these days?
> >>> Building a new system is fine, but
> >>> I don't know when I could ever afford a
> >>> video card again. Luckily I never
> >>> sold my GTX 750.
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>>
> >>> On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:
> >>>> Still Alive?
> >>>>
> >>>> al
> >>>
>
>


Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-09 Thread FORC5



DAM, Duncan was a good friend

fuf

On 8/9/2021 2:40 PM, DSinc wrote:

To all,

I can't send just a singular message to 
youse guys [his Thunderbird says the 
following message is too large for his 
program to handle.] so I'm responding to a 
recent email.


To let you know of the passing of Duncan 
8/9/21 in the a.m.  He was in the hospital 
since Friday and had a massive heart attack 
this morning.  The group is in Lopaka's 
capable hands and continued success is 
wished for the group.


Sincerely,

Bonny Sinclair (Duncan's sister)




On 8/9/2021 5:15 PM, Scott Sipe wrote:
What kind of AMD servers are you getting? 
I'd love to get an EPYC tower for
work. Our current small office server is a 
Dell PowerEdge Xeon from 2017.


Scott

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:39 AM Greg 
Sevart  wrote:



My vote would be 5800X.

I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in 
use. Zen 3 is a beast. I've got
Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket 
Lake cores in use too (and of
course older iterations of both AMD and 
Intel cores), but the machines I
really care most about are running AMD 
cores right now. Even the latest
bulk order of servers I placed at work 
are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.


My general stance has always been "tie 
goes to Intel" - so this is pretty
telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have 
I been this far on the AMD side of

the fence.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Hardware 
 
On Behalf Of

Steve Tomporowski
Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?

Still here.  Thinking finally of building 
a Ryzen system. Which Ryzen
processor is the sweet spot these days?  
Building a new system is fine, but
I don't know when I could ever afford a 
video card again. Luckily I never

sold my GTX 750.

Steve

On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:

Still Alive?

al






Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-09 Thread Beave
My Condolences as well.

Thinking about the time at ComDEX (Year has been forgotten) in Las Vegas
when a lot of us met together. It was a great meeting and had fun as well.

I wish his family well and hope to see the email list still going forward.

Best regards,

Tim Lider

Red Belt at Cardenas School of Arnis
<https://www.facebook.com/CardenasArnis/>
Anime Enthusiast




On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 2:40 PM DSinc  wrote:

> To all,
>
> I can't send just a singular message to youse guys [his Thunderbird says
> the following message is too large for his program to handle.] so I'm
> responding to a recent email.
>
> To let you know of the passing of Duncan 8/9/21 in the a.m.  He was in
> the hospital since Friday and had a massive heart attack this morning.
> The group is in Lopaka's capable hands and continued success is wished
> for the group.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Bonny Sinclair (Duncan's sister)
>
>
>
>
> On 8/9/2021 5:15 PM, Scott Sipe wrote:
> > What kind of AMD servers are you getting? I'd love to get an EPYC tower
> for
> > work. Our current small office server is a Dell PowerEdge Xeon from 2017.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:39 AM Greg Sevart  wrote:
> >
> >> My vote would be 5800X.
> >>
> >> I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in use. Zen 3 is a beast. I've
> got
> >> Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket Lake cores in use too (and of
> >> course older iterations of both AMD and Intel cores), but the machines I
> >> really care most about are running AMD cores right now. Even the latest
> >> bulk order of servers I placed at work are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.
> >>
> >> My general stance has always been "tie goes to Intel" - so this is
> pretty
> >> telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have I been this far on the AMD
> side of
> >> the fence.
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Hardware  On Behalf Of
> >> Steve Tomporowski
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
> >> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> >> Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?
> >>
> >> Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system.  Which Ryzen
> >> processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system is fine,
> but
> >> I don't know when I could ever afford a video card again.  Luckily I
> never
> >> sold my GTX 750.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:
> >>> Still Alive?
> >>>
> >>> al
> >>
>


Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-09 Thread Greg Sevart
That's really hard to hear. I'm very sorry for your loss.

He will be missed by many, near and afar.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 4:40 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?

To all,

I can't send just a singular message to youse guys [his Thunderbird says the 
following message is too large for his program to handle.] so I'm responding to 
a recent email.

To let you know of the passing of Duncan 8/9/21 in the a.m.  He was in the 
hospital since Friday and had a massive heart attack this morning. The group is 
in Lopaka's capable hands and continued success is wished for the group.

Sincerely,

Bonny Sinclair (Duncan's sister)




On 8/9/2021 5:15 PM, Scott Sipe wrote:
> What kind of AMD servers are you getting? I'd love to get an EPYC 
> tower for work. Our current small office server is a Dell PowerEdge Xeon from 
> 2017.
>
> Scott
>
> On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:39 AM Greg Sevart  wrote:
>
>> My vote would be 5800X.
>>
>> I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in use. Zen 3 is a beast. I've 
>> got Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket Lake cores in use too 
>> (and of course older iterations of both AMD and Intel cores), but the 
>> machines I really care most about are running AMD cores right now. 
>> Even the latest bulk order of servers I placed at work are based on EPYC Zen 
>> 3 silicon.
>>
>> My general stance has always been "tie goes to Intel" - so this is 
>> pretty telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have I been this far on 
>> the AMD side of the fence.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Hardware  On Behalf 
>> Of Steve Tomporowski
>> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
>> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
>> Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?
>>
>> Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system.  Which 
>> Ryzen processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system 
>> is fine, but I don't know when I could ever afford a video card 
>> again.  Luckily I never sold my GTX 750.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:
>>> Still Alive?
>>>
>>> al
>>



Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-09 Thread James Boswell
Oh no, my condolences.

On Mon, 9 Aug 2021 at 22:40, DSinc  wrote:

> To all,
>
> I can't send just a singular message to youse guys [his Thunderbird says
> the following message is too large for his program to handle.] so I'm
> responding to a recent email.
>
> To let you know of the passing of Duncan 8/9/21 in the a.m.  He was in
> the hospital since Friday and had a massive heart attack this morning.
> The group is in Lopaka's capable hands and continued success is wished
> for the group.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Bonny Sinclair (Duncan's sister)
>
>
>
>
> On 8/9/2021 5:15 PM, Scott Sipe wrote:
> > What kind of AMD servers are you getting? I'd love to get an EPYC tower
> for
> > work. Our current small office server is a Dell PowerEdge Xeon from 2017.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:39 AM Greg Sevart  wrote:
> >
> >> My vote would be 5800X.
> >>
> >> I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in use. Zen 3 is a beast. I've
> got
> >> Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket Lake cores in use too (and of
> >> course older iterations of both AMD and Intel cores), but the machines I
> >> really care most about are running AMD cores right now. Even the latest
> >> bulk order of servers I placed at work are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.
> >>
> >> My general stance has always been "tie goes to Intel" - so this is
> pretty
> >> telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have I been this far on the AMD
> side of
> >> the fence.
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Hardware  On Behalf Of
> >> Steve Tomporowski
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
> >> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> >> Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?
> >>
> >> Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system.  Which Ryzen
> >> processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system is fine,
> but
> >> I don't know when I could ever afford a video card again.  Luckily I
> never
> >> sold my GTX 750.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:
> >>> Still Alive?
> >>>
> >>> al
> >>
>


Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-09 Thread DSinc

To all,

I can't send just a singular message to youse guys [his Thunderbird says 
the following message is too large for his program to handle.] so I'm 
responding to a recent email.


To let you know of the passing of Duncan 8/9/21 in the a.m.  He was in 
the hospital since Friday and had a massive heart attack this morning.  
The group is in Lopaka's capable hands and continued success is wished 
for the group.


Sincerely,

Bonny Sinclair (Duncan's sister)




On 8/9/2021 5:15 PM, Scott Sipe wrote:

What kind of AMD servers are you getting? I'd love to get an EPYC tower for
work. Our current small office server is a Dell PowerEdge Xeon from 2017.

Scott

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:39 AM Greg Sevart  wrote:


My vote would be 5800X.

I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in use. Zen 3 is a beast. I've got
Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket Lake cores in use too (and of
course older iterations of both AMD and Intel cores), but the machines I
really care most about are running AMD cores right now. Even the latest
bulk order of servers I placed at work are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.

My general stance has always been "tie goes to Intel" - so this is pretty
telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have I been this far on the AMD side of
the fence.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of
Steve Tomporowski
Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?

Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system.  Which Ryzen
processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system is fine, but
I don't know when I could ever afford a video card again.  Luckily I never
sold my GTX 750.

Steve

On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:

Still Alive?

al




Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-09 Thread Greg Sevart
I did a batch of Dell PowerEdge R7525 boxes.  Each has 2x EPYC 7543 (32C/64T, 
2.8-3.7GHz) w/1TB RAM. 

I've used all the big players (Dell, HP, Cisco UCS, DIY SuperMicro) and 
continue to prefer Dell.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of Scott 
Sipe
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 4:16 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?

What kind of AMD servers are you getting? I'd love to get an EPYC tower for 
work. Our current small office server is a Dell PowerEdge Xeon from 2017.

Scott

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:39 AM Greg Sevart  wrote:

> My vote would be 5800X.
>
> I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in use. Zen 3 is a beast. I've 
> got Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket Lake cores in use too 
> (and of course older iterations of both AMD and Intel cores), but the 
> machines I really care most about are running AMD cores right now. 
> Even the latest bulk order of servers I placed at work are based on EPYC Zen 
> 3 silicon.
>
> My general stance has always been "tie goes to Intel" - so this is 
> pretty telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have I been this far on the 
> AMD side of the fence.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hardware  On Behalf Of 
> Steve Tomporowski
> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?
>
> Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system.  Which Ryzen 
> processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system is 
> fine, but I don't know when I could ever afford a video card again.  
> Luckily I never sold my GTX 750.
>
> Steve
>
> On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:
> > Still Alive?
> >
> > al
>
>



Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-09 Thread Scott Sipe
What kind of AMD servers are you getting? I'd love to get an EPYC tower for
work. Our current small office server is a Dell PowerEdge Xeon from 2017.

Scott

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:39 AM Greg Sevart  wrote:

> My vote would be 5800X.
>
> I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in use. Zen 3 is a beast. I've got
> Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket Lake cores in use too (and of
> course older iterations of both AMD and Intel cores), but the machines I
> really care most about are running AMD cores right now. Even the latest
> bulk order of servers I placed at work are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.
>
> My general stance has always been "tie goes to Intel" - so this is pretty
> telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have I been this far on the AMD side of
> the fence.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hardware  On Behalf Of
> Steve Tomporowski
> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?
>
> Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system.  Which Ryzen
> processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system is fine, but
> I don't know when I could ever afford a video card again.  Luckily I never
> sold my GTX 750.
>
> Steve
>
> On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:
> > Still Alive?
> >
> > al
>
>


Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-09 Thread Scott Sipe
Funny...I was randomly thinking of the HWG a few days ago when I was doing
some email reorganization. Good to still see people kicking around.

Like Steve, still running an old gpu, GTX 970 from ~2014/15 I think. I had
half a thought to try to get a 3080 something but those prices are insane
and they're still impossible to get. Build your own doesn't seem quite the
same as it used to!

Scott

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 1:37 PM Thane K. Sherrington <
th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote:

> Still here!  I hope everyone else is doing well.
>
>
>


Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-09 Thread Greg Sevart
And 3xxxG APUs are still old Zen+ designs. Definitely annoying--not that Intel 
has been doing any better lately. That, too, has been fixed with the 5xxxG 
APUs, though I have other complaints with those chips. Either way, let's hope 
they remain consistent going forward.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of James 
Boswell
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 12:48 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?

It's actually 3rd Generation, Zen3 (generations have been Zen (1x00 series), 
Zen+ (2x00 series), Zen 2 (3000 series) and Zen 3 (5x00 series) the naming 
schema has been a little of a mess. the mobile parts to begin with were 1000 up 
on the desktop parts, (so mobile 2x00 is Zen, not Zen+), they corrected that 
and brought it in line with the 5000 series nomenclature.

Also Zen3's really haul ass.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ma1epsmwjcezrvk/5950x-2080Ti-64GB.PNG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7lctvcs94yp05y/5GhzPBO-cinebenchfirstrun.PNG?dl=0

On Sun, 8 Aug 2021 at 14:37, Steve Tomporowski  wrote:

> Thanks, Greg.  I'm assuming that AMD is doing like Intel and this is a 
> 5th generation Ryzen.  Looks like full circle again, I had all Athlon 
> systems back when
>
> Thanks...Steve
>
> On 8/8/2021 12:39 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:
> > My vote would be 5800X.
> >
> > I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in use. Zen 3 is a beast. 
> > I've
> got Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket Lake cores in use too 
> (and of course older iterations of both AMD and Intel cores), but the 
> machines I really care most about are running AMD cores right now. 
> Even the latest bulk order of servers I placed at work are based on EPYC Zen 
> 3 silicon.
> >
> > My general stance has always been "tie goes to Intel" - so this is
> pretty telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have I been this far on the 
> AMD side of the fence.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Hardware  On Behalf 
> > Of
> Steve Tomporowski
> > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
> > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?
> >
> > Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system.  Which 
> > Ryzen
> processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system is 
> fine, but I don't know when I could ever afford a video card again.  
> Luckily I never sold my GTX 750.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:
> >> Still Alive?
> >>
> >> al
>



Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-09 Thread James Boswell
It's actually 3rd Generation, Zen3 (generations have been Zen (1x00
series), Zen+ (2x00 series), Zen 2 (3000 series) and Zen 3 (5x00 series)
the naming schema has been a little of a mess. the mobile parts to begin
with were 1000 up on the desktop parts, (so mobile 2x00 is Zen, not Zen+),
they corrected that and brought it in line with the 5000 series
nomenclature.

Also Zen3's really haul ass.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ma1epsmwjcezrvk/5950x-2080Ti-64GB.PNG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7lctvcs94yp05y/5GhzPBO-cinebenchfirstrun.PNG?dl=0

On Sun, 8 Aug 2021 at 14:37, Steve Tomporowski  wrote:

> Thanks, Greg.  I'm assuming that AMD is doing like Intel and this is a
> 5th generation Ryzen.  Looks like full circle again, I had all Athlon
> systems back when
>
> Thanks...Steve
>
> On 8/8/2021 12:39 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:
> > My vote would be 5800X.
> >
> > I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in use. Zen 3 is a beast. I've
> got Intel Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket Lake cores in use too (and of
> course older iterations of both AMD and Intel cores), but the machines I
> really care most about are running AMD cores right now. Even the latest
> bulk order of servers I placed at work are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.
> >
> > My general stance has always been "tie goes to Intel" - so this is
> pretty telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have I been this far on the AMD
> side of the fence.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Hardware  On Behalf Of
> Steve Tomporowski
> > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
> > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?
> >
> > Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system.  Which Ryzen
> processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system is fine, but
> I don't know when I could ever afford a video card again.  Luckily I never
> sold my GTX 750.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:
> >> Still Alive?
> >>
> >> al
>


Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-09 Thread Thane K. Sherrington

Still here!  I hope everyone else is doing well.




Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-08 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Thanks, Greg.  I'm assuming that AMD is doing like Intel and this is a 
5th generation Ryzen.  Looks like full circle again, I had all Athlon 
systems back when


Thanks...Steve

On 8/8/2021 12:39 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:

My vote would be 5800X.

I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in use. Zen 3 is a beast. I've got Intel 
Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket Lake cores in use too (and of course older 
iterations of both AMD and Intel cores), but the machines I really care most 
about are running AMD cores right now. Even the latest bulk order of servers I 
placed at work are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.

My general stance has always been "tie goes to Intel" - so this is pretty 
telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have I been this far on the AMD side of the fence.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of Steve 
Tomporowski
Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?

Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system.  Which Ryzen 
processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system is fine, but I 
don't know when I could ever afford a video card again.  Luckily I never sold 
my GTX 750.

Steve

On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:

Still Alive?

al


Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-07 Thread Greg Sevart
My vote would be 5800X. 

I've got a 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X all in use. Zen 3 is a beast. I've got Intel 
Coffee Lake, Comet Lake, and Rocket Lake cores in use too (and of course older 
iterations of both AMD and Intel cores), but the machines I really care most 
about are running AMD cores right now. Even the latest bulk order of servers I 
placed at work are based on EPYC Zen 3 silicon.

My general stance has always been "tie goes to Intel" - so this is pretty 
telling for me. Not since K8/Hammer have I been this far on the AMD side of the 
fence.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of Steve 
Tomporowski
Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:38 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Still alive?

Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system.  Which Ryzen 
processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system is fine, but I 
don't know when I could ever afford a video card again.  Luckily I never sold 
my GTX 750.

Steve

On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:
> Still Alive?
>
> al



Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-07 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Still here.  Thinking finally of building a Ryzen system.  Which Ryzen 
processor is the sweet spot these days?  Building a new system is fine, 
but I don't know when I could ever afford a video card again.  Luckily I 
never sold my GTX 750.


Steve

On 8/7/2021 8:31 PM, Al A wrote:

Still Alive?

al


Re: [H] Still alive?

2021-08-07 Thread James Boswell
This was a triumph. :)

On Sun, 8 Aug 2021, 01:32 Al A,  wrote:

> Still Alive?
>
> al
>


[H] Still alive?

2021-08-07 Thread Al A
Still Alive?

al