Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

2016-09-26 Thread Winterlight


I will probably stick with three ..large in the middle flanked by two 
smaller ones it works really well for me. It's surprising how 
cheap they all are. And all the old players in this market are gone. 
I don't like the curved TVs either but I will check out curved monitors.



At 07:13 PM 9/26/2016, you wrote:

I've got four 27' WQHD displays (2560x1440)--two at home and two that I
brought in to my office.

For me, the biggest driver is PPI. I'd like my next upgrade to me to
something like a 34" UHD display, IPS or *VA panel, and curved. I didn't
find anything like that the last time I looked. I'm no fan of curved TVs,
but I think it'll actually be pretty nice for very large monitors where
you're sitting so close. I've sat down a few demos and was surprised that I
didn't hate it.

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I wish that would work all the time.. it helps but sometimes the screen just
goes blank and a long process begins of getting it working again starts up.
Greg, I am thinking 28 or 30 inch monitors and I know you have four 28s..
are they just lined up in a row or in a mounted on a tree stand? Are there
any particular brands or anything I should think about when buying monitors
now... I haven't bought one since I got my 30 inch back in 08. I assume that
now all large monitors are scaleable like my 30 inch gateway.





>Or just disable power-saving for the time being.
>
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>Behalf Of Winterlight
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Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

2016-09-26 Thread Greg Sevart
I've got four 27' WQHD displays (2560x1440)--two at home and two that I
brought in to my office.

For me, the biggest driver is PPI. I'd like my next upgrade to me to
something like a 34" UHD display, IPS or *VA panel, and curved. I didn't
find anything like that the last time I looked. I'm no fan of curved TVs,
but I think it'll actually be pretty nice for very large monitors where
you're sitting so close. I've sat down a few demos and was surprised that I
didn't hate it.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf
Of Winterlight
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 9:05 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

I wish that would work all the time.. it helps but sometimes the screen just
goes blank and a long process begins of getting it working again starts up.
Greg, I am thinking 28 or 30 inch monitors and I know you have four 28s..
are they just lined up in a row or in a mounted on a tree stand? Are there
any particular brands or anything I should think about when buying monitors
now... I haven't bought one since I got my 30 inch back in 08. I assume that
now all large monitors are scaleable like my 30 inch gateway.





>Or just disable power-saving for the time being.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On 
>Behalf Of Winterlight
>Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 8:00 PM
>To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
>Subject: Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem





Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

2016-09-26 Thread Winterlight
I wish that would work all the time.. it helps but sometimes the 
screen just goes blank and a long process begins of getting it 
working again starts up. Greg, I am thinking 28 or 30 inch monitors 
and I know you have four 28s.. are they just lined up in a row or in 
a mounted on a tree stand? Are there  any particular brands or 
anything I should think about when buying monitors now... I haven't 
bought one since I got my 30 inch back in 08. I assume that now all 
large monitors are scaleable like my 30 inch gateway.







Or just disable power-saving for the time being.

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Of Winterlight
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 8:00 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
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Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

2016-09-26 Thread Greg Sevart
Or just disable power-saving for the time being. 

-Original Message-
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Of Winterlight
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 8:00 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem


It looks like it is the monitor. First I switched out the cables and I had
the same issue from different video card ports. So I knew it was the monitor
and I tried it in a SVGA port rather then the DVI port it was in... same
problem.  I do plan a major upgrade of monitors and video card in the near
future but for right now I am really busy and I don't have the time for the
big change, and I haven't decided what I am going to upgrade to I don't
want to rush my decision. 
I will probably just get a cheap temporary monitor to hold me for the next
few months. Thanks everybody.

At 05:39 PM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
>Yes, try switching cables around. I have had a Nvidia 8800-series card 
>stop detecting one of my screens intermittently on boot, but my 670 
>worked fine. It would work fine if I just hard-restarted the machine, 
>and the problem was masked when I swapped cables (same monitor is 
>working fine with a 1080).
>
>I think a 1060 would be fine for your intended use. I don't think 
>there's a difference between any of the 10-series cards and the 
>monitors they can drive. Keep in mind that the Nvidia 10-series cards 
>only support 4 devices even if they have more ports, and they only 
>support digital output (so a DVI-I to VGA adapter will not work even if 
>it has the port). You may need (as I did when I upgraded) new cables or 
>adapters as the reference design has 1 HDMI and 1 DVI, and 3 DisplayPorts.
>
>Jamie
>
>
>On 2016-09-26 3:28 PM, Winterlight wrote:
>>
>>I don't have a hdmi on the monitor and I don't have VGA on the video 
>>card so the only way  would be to use an adaptor, and I would still be 
>>coming off the same video card DVI port  and I would never know for 
>>sure.  I guess I will try switching the cables on the monitors and see 
>>if it still happens. If it does I will look to the video card.
>>
>>To that end ...the 2nd part of my question.
>>
>>  I am not a big gamer but I do have a steam account and very 
>> occasionally I will buy a game and play it... usually something that 
>> is years old... I just played Left4Dead2 for example. However I do 
>> intend to be driving four large monitors in the near future... so 
>> will a EVGA GTX 1060 with 6GB of RAM  do the job or do I need to 
>> spend the money on ta GTX 1070. Yes the 1070 will be better in modern 
>> games and 3D but I don't use it  for that.
>> Will the model number of a modern video card make any difference for 
>> day to day multi monitor support?
>>
>>
>>At 01:39 PM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
>>>Try a different interface connector on the monitor.  I've had weird 
>>>symptoms when the interface goes bad.
>>>
>>>
>>>On 9/26/2016 2:18 PM, Winterlight wrote:
>>>>changing to a lower resolution yeah... but a higher refresh rate... 
>>>>that the part I find hard to blame on the monitor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 11:09 AM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
>>>>>Could be the monitor. Swap them around and see if that monitor does 
>>>>>it (changes to lower res) on a different output. I've had a couple 
>>>>>monitors that did that before going out completely. lopaka
>>>>>   From: Winterlight 
>>>>>  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>>>>>  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:03 AM
>>>>>  Subject: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem
>>>>>
>>>>>My desktop uses a three year old NVIDIA GTX 660 plugged into three 
>>>>>monitors. In the last 3 months I have been having a problem with 
>>>>>the left hand monitor which is a Dell 2407 that runs at 1920 X 1600 
>>>>>.  The other two monitors are fine. When the monitors wake up I 
>>>>>have no signal to the 2407 and all the wall papers and icons are 
>>>>>skewed over to the right. Sometimes a reboot or a complete shutdown 
>>>>>and resetting the cables will bring back the signal but even when 
>>>>>that happens now it comes back at 1024x768 and even stranger at a 
>>>>>refresh rate of 75hz instead of 60hz and then it is a big struggle 
>>>>>to get it back to the correct resolution and refresh rate because 
>>>>>the correct
>>>>>1920 X 1600 at 60 hz isn't even available to select.
>>>>>
>>>

Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

2016-09-26 Thread Winterlight


It looks like it is the monitor. First I switched 
out the cables and I had the same issue from 
different video card ports. So I knew it was the 
monitor and I tried it in a SVGA port rather then 
the DVI port it was in... same problem.  I do 
plan a major upgrade of monitors and video card 
in the near future but for right now I am really 
busy and I don't have the time for the big 
change, and I haven't decided what I am going to 
upgrade to I don't want to rush my decision. 
I will probably just get a cheap temporary 
monitor to hold me for the next few months. Thanks everybody.


At 05:39 PM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
Yes, try switching cables around. I have had a 
Nvidia 8800-series card stop detecting one of my 
screens intermittently on boot, but my 670 
worked fine. It would work fine if I just 
hard-restarted the machine, and the problem was 
masked when I swapped cables (same monitor is working fine with a 1080).


I think a 1060 would be fine for your intended 
use. I don't think there's a difference between 
any of the 10-series cards and the monitors they 
can drive. Keep in mind that the Nvidia 
10-series cards only support 4 devices even if 
they have more ports, and they only support 
digital output (so a DVI-I to VGA adapter will 
not work even if it has the port). You may need 
(as I did when I upgraded) new cables or 
adapters as the reference design has 1 HDMI and 1 DVI, and 3 DisplayPorts.


Jamie


On 2016-09-26 3:28 PM, Winterlight wrote:


I don't have a hdmi on the monitor and I don't 
have VGA on the video card so the only 
way  would be to use an adaptor, and I would 
still be coming off the same video card DVI 
port  and I would never know for sure.  I guess 
I will try switching the cables on the monitors 
and see if it still happens. If it does I will look to the video card.


To that end ...the 2nd part of my question.

 I am not a big gamer but I do have a steam 
account and very occasionally I will buy a 
game and play it... usually something that is 
years old... I just played Left4Dead2 for 
example. However I do intend to be driving 
four large monitors in the near future... so 
will a EVGA GTX 1060 with 6GB of RAM  do the 
job or do I need to spend the money on ta GTX 
1070. Yes the 1070 will be better in modern 
games and 3D but I don't use it  for that. 
Will the model number of a modern video card 
make any difference for day to day multi monitor support?



At 01:39 PM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
Try a different interface connector on the 
monitor.  I've had weird symptoms when the interface goes bad.



On 9/26/2016 2:18 PM, Winterlight wrote:
changing to a lower resolution yeah... but a 
higher refresh rate... that the part I find hard to blame on the monitor.



At 11:09 AM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
Could be the monitor. Swap them around and 
see if that monitor does it (changes to 
lower res) on a different output. I've had a 
couple monitors that did that before going out completely.Â

lopaka
  From: Winterlight 
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:03 AM
 Subject: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

My desktop uses a three year old NVIDIA GTX 660 plugged into three
monitors. In the last 3 months I have been having a problem with the
left hand monitor which is a Dell 2407 that runs at 1920 X 1600
.  The other two monitors are fine. When the monitors wake up I have
no signal to the 2407 and all the wall papers and icons are skewed
over to the right. Sometimes a reboot or a complete shutdown and
resetting the cables will bring back the signal but even when that
happens now it comes back at 1024x768 and even stranger at a refresh
rate of 75hz instead of 60hz and then it is a big struggle to get it
back to the correct resolution and refresh rate because the correct
1920 X 1600 at 60 hz isn't even available to select.

The first thing I did was to remove and then update and install the
driver but it happened again. To find out if it was hardware or
software when the monitor was down I booted into a different OS. My
desktop dual boots Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 10 Pro. The problem
remained so I knew it couldn't be a software problem. That left the
video card, the cable, or the monitor.

The cable is a top quality DVI cable that I got from Monoprice. It
appears to be in good condition and I have removed and re seated it a
number of times on both video card and monitor  when this has
happened. A couple of times I thought it was a re seating of the
cable that was causing the problem but it couldn't still be the
problem and besides I don't see how the monitor itself, or the cable
could account for a change in resolution, or an increase in refresh
rate. the monitor is using the correct DELL driver and has no monitor
type problems... such as pixalation or breaking up video, that sort
of thing.  Last night I reset Power Balance to never put the monitors
to sleep and I will see 

Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

2016-09-26 Thread Jamie Furtner
Yes, try switching cables around. I have had a Nvidia 8800-series card 
stop detecting one of my screens intermittently on boot, but my 670 
worked fine. It would work fine if I just hard-restarted the machine, 
and the problem was masked when I swapped cables (same monitor is 
working fine with a 1080).


I think a 1060 would be fine for your intended use. I don't think 
there's a difference between any of the 10-series cards and the monitors 
they can drive. Keep in mind that the Nvidia 10-series cards only 
support 4 devices even if they have more ports, and they only support 
digital output (so a DVI-I to VGA adapter will not work even if it has 
the port). You may need (as I did when I upgraded) new cables or 
adapters as the reference design has 1 HDMI and 1 DVI, and 3 DisplayPorts.


Jamie


On 2016-09-26 3:28 PM, Winterlight wrote:


I don't have a hdmi on the monitor and I don't have VGA on the video 
card so the only way  would be to use an adaptor, and I would still be 
coming off the same video card DVI port  and I would never know for 
sure.  I guess I will try switching the cables on the monitors and see 
if it still happens. If it does I will look to the video card.


To that end ...the 2nd part of my question.

 I am not a big gamer but I do have a steam account and very 
occasionally I will buy a game and play it... usually something that 
is years old... I just played Left4Dead2 for example. However I do 
intend to be driving four large monitors in the near future... so will 
a EVGA GTX 1060 with 6GB of RAM  do the job or do I need to spend the 
money on ta GTX 1070. Yes the 1070 will be better in modern games and 
3D but I don't use it  for that. Will the model number of a modern 
video card make any difference for day to day multi monitor support?



At 01:39 PM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
Try a different interface connector on the monitor.  I've had weird 
symptoms when the interface goes bad.



On 9/26/2016 2:18 PM, Winterlight wrote:
changing to a lower resolution yeah... but a higher refresh rate... 
that the part I find hard to blame on the monitor.



At 11:09 AM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
Could be the monitor. Swap them around and see if that monitor does 
it (changes to lower res) on a different output. I've had a couple 
monitors that did that before going out completely.Â

lopaka
  From: Winterlight 
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:03 AM
 Subject: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

My desktop uses a three year old NVIDIA GTX 660 plugged into three
monitors. In the last 3 months I have been having a problem with the
left hand monitor which is a Dell 2407 that runs at 1920 X 1600
.  The other two monitors are fine. When the monitors wake up I have
no signal to the 2407 and all the wall papers and icons are skewed
over to the right. Sometimes a reboot or a complete shutdown and
resetting the cables will bring back the signal but even when that
happens now it comes back at 1024x768 and even stranger at a refresh
rate of 75hz instead of 60hz and then it is a big struggle to get it
back to the correct resolution and refresh rate because the correct
1920 X 1600 at 60 hz isn't even available to select.

The first thing I did was to remove and then update and install the
driver but it happened again. To find out if it was hardware or
software when the monitor was down I booted into a different OS. My
desktop dual boots Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 10 Pro. The problem
remained so I knew it couldn't be a software problem. That left the
video card, the cable, or the monitor.

The cable is a top quality DVI cable that I got from Monoprice. It
appears to be in good condition and I have removed and re seated it a
number of times on both video card and monitor  when this has
happened. A couple of times I thought it was a re seating of the
cable that was causing the problem but it couldn't still be the
problem and besides I don't see how the monitor itself, or the cable
could account for a change in resolution, or an increase in refresh
rate. the monitor is using the correct DELL driver and has no monitor
type problems... such as pixalation or breaking up video, that sort
of thing.  Last night I reset Power Balance to never put the monitors
to sleep and I will see if that solves the problem for the time being.

It has to be the video card right?

  I am not a big gamer but I do have a steam account and very
occasionally I will buy a game and play it... usually something that
is years old... I just played Left4Dead2 for example. However I do
intend to be driving four large monitors in the near future... so
will a EVGA GTX 1060 with 6GB of RAMÂ  do the job or do I need to
spend the money on ta GTX 1070. Yes the 1070 will be better in modern
games and 3D but I don't use it  for that. Will the model number of a
modern video card make any difference for day to day multi monitor
support?  Thanks w



Â









--
Jamie Furtner ja...@furtner.ca



Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

2016-09-26 Thread Winterlight


I don't have a hdmi on the monitor and I don't 
have VGA on the video card so the only way  would 
be to use an adaptor, and I would still be coming 
off the same video card DVI port  and I would 
never know for sure.  I guess I will try 
switching the cables on the monitors and see if 
it still happens. If it does I will look to the video card.


To that end ...the 2nd part of my question.

 I am not a big gamer but I do have a steam 
account and very occasionally I will buy a game 
and play it... usually something that is years 
old... I just played Left4Dead2 for example. 
However I do intend to be driving four large 
monitors in the near future... so will a EVGA GTX 
1060 with 6GB of RAM  do the job or do I need to 
spend the money on ta GTX 1070. Yes the 1070 will 
be better in modern games and 3D but I don't use 
it  for that. Will the model number of a modern 
video card make any difference for day to day multi monitor support?



At 01:39 PM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
Try a different interface connector on the 
monitor.  I've had weird symptoms when the interface goes bad.



On 9/26/2016 2:18 PM, Winterlight wrote:
changing to a lower resolution yeah... but a 
higher refresh rate... that the part I find hard to blame on the monitor.



At 11:09 AM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
Could be the monitor. Swap them around and see 
if that monitor does it (changes to lower res) 
on a different output. I've had a couple 
monitors that did that before going out completely.Â

lopaka
  From: Winterlight 
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:03 AM
 Subject: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

My desktop uses a three year old NVIDIA GTX 660 plugged into three
monitors. In the last 3 months I have been having a problem with the
left hand monitor which is a Dell 2407 that runs at 1920 X 1600
.  The other two monitors are fine. When the monitors wake up I have
no signal to the 2407 and all the wall papers and icons are skewed
over to the right. Sometimes a reboot or a complete shutdown and
resetting the cables will bring back the signal but even when that
happens now it comes back at 1024x768 and even stranger at a refresh
rate of 75hz instead of 60hz and then it is a big struggle to get it
back to the correct resolution and refresh rate because the correct
1920 X 1600 at 60 hz isn't even available to select.

The first thing I did was to remove and then update and install the
driver but it happened again. To find out if it was hardware or
software when the monitor was down I booted into a different OS. My
desktop dual boots Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 10 Pro. The problem
remained so I knew it couldn't be a software problem. That left the
video card, the cable, or the monitor.

The cable is a top quality DVI cable that I got from Monoprice. It
appears to be in good condition and I have removed and re seated it a
number of times on both video card and monitor  when this has
happened. A couple of times I thought it was a re seating of the
cable that was causing the problem but it couldn't still be the
problem and besides I don't see how the monitor itself, or the cable
could account for a change in resolution, or an increase in refresh
rate. the monitor is using the correct DELL driver and has no monitor
type problems... such as pixalation or breaking up video, that sort
of thing.  Last night I reset Power Balance to never put the monitors
to sleep and I will see if that solves the problem for the time being.

It has to be the video card right?

  I am not a big gamer but I do have a steam account and very
occasionally I will buy a game and play it... usually something that
is years old... I just played Left4Dead2 for example. However I do
intend to be driving four large monitors in the near future... so
will a EVGA GTX 1060 with 6GB of RAMÂ  do the job or do I need to
spend the money on ta GTX 1070. Yes the 1070 will be better in modern
games and 3D but I don't use it  for that. Will the model number of a
modern video card make any difference for day to day multi monitor
support?  Thanks w



Â









Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

2016-09-26 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Try a different interface connector on the monitor.  I've had weird 
symptoms when the interface goes bad.



On 9/26/2016 2:18 PM, Winterlight wrote:
changing to a lower resolution yeah... but a higher refresh rate... 
that the part I find hard to blame on the monitor.



At 11:09 AM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
Could be the monitor. Swap them around and see if that monitor does 
it (changes to lower res) on a different output. I've had a couple 
monitors that did that before going out completely.Â

lopaka
  From: Winterlight 
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:03 AM
 Subject: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

My desktop uses a three year old NVIDIA GTX 660 plugged into three
monitors. In the last 3 months I have been having a problem with the
left hand monitor which is a Dell 2407 that runs at 1920 X 1600
.  The other two monitors are fine. When the monitors wake up I have
no signal to the 2407 and all the wall papers and icons are skewed
over to the right. Sometimes a reboot or a complete shutdown and
resetting the cables will bring back the signal but even when that
happens now it comes back at 1024x768 and even stranger at a refresh
rate of 75hz instead of 60hz and then it is a big struggle to get it
back to the correct resolution and refresh rate because the correct
1920 X 1600 at 60 hz isn't even available to select.

The first thing I did was to remove and then update and install the
driver but it happened again. To find out if it was hardware or
software when the monitor was down I booted into a different OS. My
desktop dual boots Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 10 Pro. The problem
remained so I knew it couldn't be a software problem. That left the
video card, the cable, or the monitor.

The cable is a top quality DVI cable that I got from Monoprice. It
appears to be in good condition and I have removed and re seated it a
number of times on both video card and monitor  when this has
happened. A couple of times I thought it was a re seating of the
cable that was causing the problem but it couldn't still be the
problem and besides I don't see how the monitor itself, or the cable
could account for a change in resolution, or an increase in refresh
rate. the monitor is using the correct DELL driver and has no monitor
type problems... such as pixalation or breaking up video, that sort
of thing.  Last night I reset Power Balance to never put the monitors
to sleep and I will see if that solves the problem for the time being.

It has to be the video card right?

  I am not a big gamer but I do have a steam account and very
occasionally I will buy a game and play it... usually something that
is years old... I just played Left4Dead2 for example. However I do
intend to be driving four large monitors in the near future... so
will a EVGA GTX 1060 with 6GB of RAMÂ  do the job or do I need to
spend the money on ta GTX 1070. Yes the 1070 will be better in modern
games and 3D but I don't use it  for that. Will the model number of a
modern video card make any difference for day to day multi monitor
support?  Thanks w



Â










Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

2016-09-26 Thread Winterlight
changing to a lower resolution yeah... but a 
higher refresh rate... that the part I find hard to blame on the monitor.



At 11:09 AM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
Could be the monitor. Swap them around and see 
if that monitor does it (changes to lower res) 
on a different output. I've had a couple 
monitors that did that before going out completely.Â

lopaka
  From: Winterlight 
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:03 AM
 Subject: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

My desktop uses a three year old NVIDIA GTX 660 plugged into three
monitors. In the last 3 months I have been having a problem with the
left hand monitor which is a Dell 2407 that runs at 1920 X 1600
.  The other two monitors are fine. When the monitors wake up I have
no signal to the 2407 and all the wall papers and icons are skewed
over to the right. Sometimes a reboot or a complete shutdown and
resetting the cables will bring back the signal but even when that
happens now it comes back at 1024x768 and even stranger at a refresh
rate of 75hz instead of 60hz and then it is a big struggle to get it
back to the correct resolution and refresh rate because the correct
1920 X 1600 at 60 hz isn't even available to select.

The first thing I did was to remove and then update and install the
driver but it happened again. To find out if it was hardware or
software when the monitor was down I booted into a different OS. My
desktop dual boots Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 10 Pro. The problem
remained so I knew it couldn't be a software problem. That left the
video card, the cable, or the monitor.

The cable is a top quality DVI cable that I got from Monoprice. It
appears to be in good condition and I have removed and re seated it a
number of times on both video card and monitor  when this has
happened. A couple of times I thought it was a re seating of the
cable that was causing the problem but it couldn't still be the
problem and besides I don't see how the monitor itself, or the cable
could account for a change in resolution, or an increase in refresh
rate. the monitor is using the correct DELL driver and has no monitor
type problems... such as pixalation or breaking up video, that sort
of thing.  Last night I reset Power Balance to never put the monitors
to sleep and I will see if that solves the problem for the time being.

It has to be the video card right?

  I am not a big gamer but I do have a steam account and very
occasionally I will buy a game and play it... usually something that
is years old... I just played Left4Dead2 for example. However I do
intend to be driving four large monitors in the near future... so
will a EVGA GTX 1060 with 6GB of RAMÂ  do the job or do I need to
spend the money on ta GTX 1070. Yes the 1070 will be better in modern
games and 3D but I don't use it  for that. Will the model number of a
modern video card make any difference for day to day multi monitor
support?  Thanks w



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Re: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem

2016-09-26 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
Could be the monitor. Swap them around and see if that monitor does it (changes 
to lower res) on a different output. I've had a couple monitors that did that 
before going out completely. 
lopaka
  From: Winterlight 
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:03 AM
 Subject: [H] Strange NVIDIA problem
   
My desktop uses a three year old NVIDIA GTX 660 plugged into three 
monitors. In the last 3 months I have been having a problem with the 
left hand monitor which is a Dell 2407 that runs at 1920 X 1600 
.  The other two monitors are fine. When the monitors wake up I have 
no signal to the 2407 and all the wall papers and icons are skewed 
over to the right. Sometimes a reboot or a complete shutdown and 
resetting the cables will bring back the signal but even when that 
happens now it comes back at 1024x768 and even stranger at a refresh 
rate of 75hz instead of 60hz and then it is a big struggle to get it 
back to the correct resolution and refresh rate because the correct 
1920 X 1600 at 60 hz isn't even available to select.

The first thing I did was to remove and then update and install the 
driver but it happened again. To find out if it was hardware or 
software when the monitor was down I booted into a different OS. My 
desktop dual boots Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 10 Pro. The problem 
remained so I knew it couldn't be a software problem. That left the 
video card, the cable, or the monitor.

The cable is a top quality DVI cable that I got from Monoprice. It 
appears to be in good condition and I have removed and re seated it a 
number of times on both video card and monitor  when this has 
happened. A couple of times I thought it was a re seating of the 
cable that was causing the problem but it couldn't still be the 
problem and besides I don't see how the monitor itself, or the cable 
could account for a change in resolution, or an increase in refresh 
rate. the monitor is using the correct DELL driver and has no monitor 
type problems... such as pixalation or breaking up video, that sort 
of thing.  Last night I reset Power Balance to never put the monitors 
to sleep and I will see if that solves the problem for the time being.

It has to be the video card right?

  I am not a big gamer but I do have a steam account and very 
occasionally I will buy a game and play it... usually something that 
is years old... I just played Left4Dead2 for example. However I do 
intend to be driving four large monitors in the near future... so 
will a EVGA GTX 1060 with 6GB of RAM  do the job or do I need to 
spend the money on ta GTX 1070. Yes the 1070 will be better in modern 
games and 3D but I don't use it  for that. Will the model number of a 
modern video card make any difference for day to day multi monitor 
support?  Thanks w



  



   


[H] Strange NVIDIA problem

2016-09-26 Thread Winterlight
My desktop uses a three year old NVIDIA GTX 660 plugged into three 
monitors. In the last 3 months I have been having a problem with the 
left hand monitor which is a Dell 2407 that runs at 1920 X 1600 
.  The other two monitors are fine. When the monitors wake up I have 
no signal to the 2407 and all the wall papers and icons are skewed 
over to the right. Sometimes a reboot or a complete shutdown and 
resetting the cables will bring back the signal but even when that 
happens now it comes back at 1024x768 and even stranger at a refresh 
rate of 75hz instead of 60hz and then it is a big struggle to get it 
back to the correct resolution and refresh rate because the correct 
1920 X 1600 at 60 hz isn't even available to select.


The first thing I did was to remove and then update and install the 
driver but it happened again. To find out if it was hardware or 
software when the monitor was down I booted into a different OS. My 
desktop dual boots Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 10 Pro. The problem 
remained so I knew it couldn't be a software problem. That left the 
video card, the cable, or the monitor.


The cable is a top quality DVI cable that I got from Monoprice. It 
appears to be in good condition and I have removed and re seated it a 
number of times on both video card and monitor  when this has 
happened. A couple of times I thought it was a re seating of the 
cable that was causing the problem but it couldn't still be the 
problem and besides I don't see how the monitor itself, or the cable 
could account for a change in resolution, or an increase in refresh 
rate. the monitor is using the correct DELL driver and has no monitor 
type problems... such as pixalation or breaking up video, that sort 
of thing.  Last night I reset Power Balance to never put the monitors 
to sleep and I will see if that solves the problem for the time being.


It has to be the video card right?

 I am not a big gamer but I do have a steam account and very 
occasionally I will buy a game and play it... usually something that 
is years old... I just played Left4Dead2 for example. However I do 
intend to be driving four large monitors in the near future... so 
will a EVGA GTX 1060 with 6GB of RAM  do the job or do I need to 
spend the money on ta GTX 1070. Yes the 1070 will be better in modern 
games and 3D but I don't use it  for that. Will the model number of a 
modern video card make any difference for day to day multi monitor 
support?  Thanks w