Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

2009-03-30 Thread Bino Gopal
Well, I've been wondering about the various DVI connectors myself, and this
was a good excuse, so I found this:
http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_Digital_Visual_Interface_DVI_Bu
s.html

and this: http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/dvi-cables.html

With the key line being the last one on the second link: Finally, please
remember that it is not possible to go from a digital signal to an analog
signal, most likely in reference to going from DVI-D to DVI-A...

That would make some sense with what monoprice says, since the DVI-I is an
integrated DVI which does DVI-A (analog) so you could then do component to
analog DVI (like with a TV that supports that) so there'd be no
digital-analog there, just analog all the way

The problem is probably the conversion from analog to digital and you'd
likely need a convertor box for it, and the electronics for that probably
wouldn't be cheap...this would be true any time you wanted analog-digital
and vice versa.  Most of the adapters you're familiar with are like A-A and
D-D, so there's no signal conversion involved, just adapter pin
mapping...JM2C tho.

Oh, here we go, just found this:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/members-theaters-ht-projects/195938-comp
onent-dvi.html

He basically agrees with what I said; see David Rivshin's response to the
OP.  I did see a convertor box in one search, but it didn't have component,
it had VGA; here we go:

http://www.datapro.net/products/vga-to-dvi-d-analog-digital-convertor.html

so they probably exist, but at the price they want for this, you could buy
another cheapie HT tuner or monitor or something! :P  And yep, here you go,
the convertor box you'd actually need:

http://www.dvwarehouse.com/Component-Analog-(YPbPr)-to-Digital-DVI-Converter
-p-34287.html

Around the same price; if you want it, you know what to look for now!  HTH!

BINO


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:59 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

I'll have to look again, but all I found was a DVI-I to component 
adapter (various lengths) that monoprice insists will not work with a 
computer monitor.

Yeah, I do agree, it is a great place for cables.

Steve

Rick Glazier wrote:
 monoprice.com

 From: Steve Tomporowski  Any ideas, links, bodily noises?

 ThanksSteve





Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

2009-03-30 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Thanks Bino, this definitely got me in the right direction.  The LG 
monitor I have has a VGA input and a DVI-D input.  To tell the truth, 
I'd go for a component to VGA cable, but if I'd have to go for a 
converter, for $245 I could probably get a better tuner instead.


Thanks muchSteve

Bino Gopal wrote:

Well, I've been wondering about the various DVI connectors myself, and this
was a good excuse, so I found this:
http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_Digital_Visual_Interface_DVI_Bu
s.html

and this: http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/dvi-cables.html

With the key line being the last one on the second link: Finally, please
remember that it is not possible to go from a digital signal to an analog
signal, most likely in reference to going from DVI-D to DVI-A...

That would make some sense with what monoprice says, since the DVI-I is an
integrated DVI which does DVI-A (analog) so you could then do component to
analog DVI (like with a TV that supports that) so there'd be no
digital-analog there, just analog all the way

The problem is probably the conversion from analog to digital and you'd
likely need a convertor box for it, and the electronics for that probably
wouldn't be cheap...this would be true any time you wanted analog-digital
and vice versa.  Most of the adapters you're familiar with are like A-A and
D-D, so there's no signal conversion involved, just adapter pin
mapping...JM2C tho.

Oh, here we go, just found this:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/members-theaters-ht-projects/195938-comp
onent-dvi.html

He basically agrees with what I said; see David Rivshin's response to the
OP.  I did see a convertor box in one search, but it didn't have component,
it had VGA; here we go:

http://www.datapro.net/products/vga-to-dvi-d-analog-digital-convertor.html

so they probably exist, but at the price they want for this, you could buy
another cheapie HT tuner or monitor or something! :P  And yep, here you go,
the convertor box you'd actually need:

http://www.dvwarehouse.com/Component-Analog-(YPbPr)-to-Digital-DVI-Converter
-p-34287.html

Around the same price; if you want it, you know what to look for now!  HTH!

BINO


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:59 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

I'll have to look again, but all I found was a DVI-I to component 
adapter (various lengths) that monoprice insists will not work with a 
computer monitor.


Yeah, I do agree, it is a great place for cables.

Steve

Rick Glazier wrote:
  

monoprice.com

From: Steve Tomporowski  Any ideas, links, bodily noises?


ThanksSteve
  




  




Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

2009-03-30 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Okay, found it.  Since I've got either VGA or DVI-D inputs on the LG, I 
can get a component to VGA cable at monoprice for about 5 bucks.  Good 
price for a tryout.  At that DV warehouse the same cable goes for 
59.95.  Probably made by monster from oxygen free virgin copper from the 
smelting mines of the Middle East that were first discovered in the 3rd 
century BC untainted by modern industry, thus delivering the finest 
quality.  Then you can get the additional maintenance agreement for $129 
for two years.  Worth the money!


Steve

Bino Gopal wrote:

Well, I've been wondering about the various DVI connectors myself, and this
was a good excuse, so I found this:
http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_Digital_Visual_Interface_DVI_Bu
s.html

and this: http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/dvi-cables.html

With the key line being the last one on the second link: Finally, please
remember that it is not possible to go from a digital signal to an analog
signal, most likely in reference to going from DVI-D to DVI-A...

That would make some sense with what monoprice says, since the DVI-I is an
integrated DVI which does DVI-A (analog) so you could then do component to
analog DVI (like with a TV that supports that) so there'd be no
digital-analog there, just analog all the way

The problem is probably the conversion from analog to digital and you'd
likely need a convertor box for it, and the electronics for that probably
wouldn't be cheap...this would be true any time you wanted analog-digital
and vice versa.  Most of the adapters you're familiar with are like A-A and
D-D, so there's no signal conversion involved, just adapter pin
mapping...JM2C tho.

Oh, here we go, just found this:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/members-theaters-ht-projects/195938-comp
onent-dvi.html

He basically agrees with what I said; see David Rivshin's response to the
OP.  I did see a convertor box in one search, but it didn't have component,
it had VGA; here we go:

http://www.datapro.net/products/vga-to-dvi-d-analog-digital-convertor.html

so they probably exist, but at the price they want for this, you could buy
another cheapie HT tuner or monitor or something! :P  And yep, here you go,
the convertor box you'd actually need:

http://www.dvwarehouse.com/Component-Analog-(YPbPr)-to-Digital-DVI-Converter
-p-34287.html

Around the same price; if you want it, you know what to look for now!  HTH!

BINO


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:59 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

I'll have to look again, but all I found was a DVI-I to component 
adapter (various lengths) that monoprice insists will not work with a 
computer monitor.


Yeah, I do agree, it is a great place for cables.

Steve

Rick Glazier wrote:
  

monoprice.com

From: Steve Tomporowski  Any ideas, links, bodily noises?


ThanksSteve
  




  




Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

2009-03-30 Thread DHSinclair

Steve,
Oh, Abolutely, YouBetcha-ByGolly, Gee-Wiz!
Didga order a dozen of dem cable(s)?. :)
Can I get a spare pair cheap
Good luck.
Please let us other non-quite-techie video-philes know how it all works out.
This thread I am following sharply.
Best,
Duncan

At 19:07 03/30/2009 -0500, you wrote:
Okay, found it.  Since I've got either VGA or DVI-D inputs on the LG, I 
can get a component to VGA cable at monoprice for about 5 bucks.  Good 
price for a tryout.  At that DV warehouse the same cable goes for 
59.95.  Probably made by monster from oxygen free virgin copper from the 
smelting mines of the Middle East that were first discovered in the 3rd 
century BC untainted by modern industry, thus delivering the finest 
quality.  Then you can get the additional maintenance agreement for $129 
for two years.  Worth the money!


Steve

Bino Gopal wrote:

Well, I've been wondering about the various DVI connectors myself, and this
was a good excuse, so I found this:
http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_Digital_Visual_Interface_DVI_Bu
s.html

and this: http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/dvi-cables.html

With the key line being the last one on the second link: Finally, please
remember that it is not possible to go from a digital signal to an analog
signal, most likely in reference to going from DVI-D to DVI-A...

That would make some sense with what monoprice says, since the DVI-I is an
integrated DVI which does DVI-A (analog) so you could then do component to
analog DVI (like with a TV that supports that) so there'd be no
digital-analog there, just analog all the way

The problem is probably the conversion from analog to digital and you'd
likely need a convertor box for it, and the electronics for that probably
wouldn't be cheap...this would be true any time you wanted analog-digital
and vice versa.  Most of the adapters you're familiar with are like A-A and
D-D, so there's no signal conversion involved, just adapter pin
mapping...JM2C tho.

Oh, here we go, just found this:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/members-theaters-ht-projects/195938-comp
onent-dvi.html

He basically agrees with what I said; see David Rivshin's response to the
OP.  I did see a convertor box in one search, but it didn't have component,
it had VGA; here we go:

http://www.datapro.net/products/vga-to-dvi-d-analog-digital-convertor.html

so they probably exist, but at the price they want for this, you could buy
another cheapie HT tuner or monitor or something! :P  And yep, here you go,
the convertor box you'd actually need:

http://www.dvwarehouse.com/Component-Analog-(YPbPr)-to-Digital-DVI-Converter
-p-34287.html

Around the same price; if you want it, you know what to look for now!  HTH!

BINO


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From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:59 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

I'll have to look again, but all I found was a DVI-I to component adapter 
(various lengths) that monoprice insists will not work with a computer monitor.


Yeah, I do agree, it is a great place for cables.

Steve

Rick Glazier wrote:


monoprice.com

From: Steve Tomporowski  Any ideas, links, bodily noises?


ThanksSteve









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Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

2009-03-30 Thread Bino Gopal
Right--missed the part where you also had VGA on the monitor since the later
posts were talking about trying to get component working with DVI-D...but
since component is analog and the VGA is analog, the adapter should just be
able to pin match b/w the two (color and sync) and you should be good--do
let us know if it works out, and monoprice.com would definitely be the way
to go!  Good luck!

BINO


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:07 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

Okay, found it.  Since I've got either VGA or DVI-D inputs on the LG, I 
can get a component to VGA cable at monoprice for about 5 bucks.  Good 
price for a tryout.  At that DV warehouse the same cable goes for 
59.95.  Probably made by monster from oxygen free virgin copper from the 
smelting mines of the Middle East that were first discovered in the 3rd 
century BC untainted by modern industry, thus delivering the finest 
quality.  Then you can get the additional maintenance agreement for $129 
for two years.  Worth the money!

Steve

Bino Gopal wrote:
 Well, I've been wondering about the various DVI connectors myself, and
this
 was a good excuse, so I found this:

http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_Digital_Visual_Interface_DVI_Bu
 s.html

 and this: http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/dvi-cables.html

 With the key line being the last one on the second link: Finally, please
 remember that it is not possible to go from a digital signal to an analog
 signal, most likely in reference to going from DVI-D to DVI-A...

 That would make some sense with what monoprice says, since the DVI-I is an
 integrated DVI which does DVI-A (analog) so you could then do component to
 analog DVI (like with a TV that supports that) so there'd be no
 digital-analog there, just analog all the way

 The problem is probably the conversion from analog to digital and you'd
 likely need a convertor box for it, and the electronics for that probably
 wouldn't be cheap...this would be true any time you wanted analog-digital
 and vice versa.  Most of the adapters you're familiar with are like A-A
and
 D-D, so there's no signal conversion involved, just adapter pin
 mapping...JM2C tho.

 Oh, here we go, just found this:


http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/members-theaters-ht-projects/195938-comp
 onent-dvi.html

 He basically agrees with what I said; see David Rivshin's response to the
 OP.  I did see a convertor box in one search, but it didn't have
component,
 it had VGA; here we go:

 http://www.datapro.net/products/vga-to-dvi-d-analog-digital-convertor.html

 so they probably exist, but at the price they want for this, you could buy
 another cheapie HT tuner or monitor or something! :P  And yep, here you
go,
 the convertor box you'd actually need:


http://www.dvwarehouse.com/Component-Analog-(YPbPr)-to-Digital-DVI-Converter
 -p-34287.html

 Around the same price; if you want it, you know what to look for now!
HTH!

   BINO


 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski
 Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:59 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

 I'll have to look again, but all I found was a DVI-I to component 
 adapter (various lengths) that monoprice insists will not work with a 
 computer monitor.

 Yeah, I do agree, it is a great place for cables.

 Steve

 Rick Glazier wrote:
   
 monoprice.com

 From: Steve Tomporowski  Any ideas, links, bodily noises?
 
 ThanksSteve
   



   




[H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

2009-03-29 Thread Steve Tomporowski
I'm not schooled in HDTV, so I'm having a bit of problem finding info on 
this matter.


I have a 24 Widescreen LCD monitor with VGA and DVI inputs only.  I 
also have a cheapie Home Theatre Tuner that only has composite  
component outputs.  Is there some way of connecting the two together.  
Most links I'm finding are on how to use your HDTV as a computer 
monitor, or which external tuner to buy, or, even worse, the blanket 
statement that all computer monitors have HDMI inputs so use those.


Any ideas, links, bodily noises?

ThanksSteve


Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

2009-03-29 Thread Jeff Lane
Steve,

I have purchased a lot of cables from this company. They have just about 
everything imaginable and good prices. All of the cables I have purchased, 
including DVI to RCA composite(which you may need) are very high quality. 
They have the adapter or the cables.

http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp

Jeff


Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:00 PM
Subject: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV


I'm not schooled in HDTV, so I'm having a bit of problem finding info on
this matter.

I have a 24 Widescreen LCD monitor with VGA and DVI inputs only.  I
also have a cheapie Home Theatre Tuner that only has composite 
component outputs.  Is there some way of connecting the two together.
Most links I'm finding are on how to use your HDTV as a computer
monitor, or which external tuner to buy, or, even worse, the blanket
statement that all computer monitors have HDMI inputs so use those.

Any ideas, links, bodily noises?

ThanksSteve



Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

2009-03-29 Thread Rick Glazier

monoprice.com

From: Steve Tomporowski  Any ideas, links, bodily noises?


ThanksSteve


Re: [H] Using Spare LCD Monitor as a TV

2009-03-29 Thread Steve Tomporowski
I'll have to look again, but all I found was a DVI-I to component 
adapter (various lengths) that monoprice insists will not work with a 
computer monitor.


Yeah, I do agree, it is a great place for cables.

Steve

Rick Glazier wrote:

monoprice.com

From: Steve Tomporowski  Any ideas, links, bodily noises?


ThanksSteve