Re: [H] Vista 64 partitioner

2008-11-12 Thread maccrawj
Depending on the version of PM you should not be using it period. Assuming your's is 
not one of the versions that screws up, I'd imagine it does not matter what the OS is 
as long as it supports the filesystem type  version.


Doesn't ADD allow you to make a boot cd? Could have sworn I have a TI  ADD on the 
same boot cd.


There are also OSS live cd's to do the same:

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

Winterlight wrote:
I have a new laptop that came with Vista 64. My version of Acronis Disk 
Director doesn't support Vista 64. is there any reason why I can't just 
boot to DOS and re partition using Partition Magic for DOS?





Re: [H] Vista 64 partitioner

2008-11-12 Thread Jason.Tozer
GParted or almost any of the LiveCD linux distros out there.

Jason Tozer


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Subject: Re: [H] Vista 64 partitioner

I had a really bad episode with Partition Magic a couple years ago where
it
FUBARd a partition and I stopped using it.  I've been using Acronis
since
and really like it.  If you can't use Acronis, I second Ben's
recommendation
for Gparted.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I am a big fan of the gparted CD. I've used it successfully on many
Red Hat
 boxes.


 maccrawj wrote:

 Depending on the version of PM you should not be using it period.
Assuming
 your's is not one of the versions that screws up, I'd imagine it does
not
 matter what the OS is as long as it supports the filesystem type 
version.

 Doesn't ADD allow you to make a boot cd? Could have sworn I have a TI

 ADD on the same boot cd.

 There are also OSS live cd's to do the same:

 http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php




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Re: [H] Vista 64 partitioner

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Ruset
I am a big fan of the gparted CD. I've used it successfully on many Red 
Hat boxes.


maccrawj wrote:
Depending on the version of PM you should not be using it period. 
Assuming your's is not one of the versions that screws up, I'd imagine 
it does not matter what the OS is as long as it supports the filesystem 
type  version.


Doesn't ADD allow you to make a boot cd? Could have sworn I have a TI  
ADD on the same boot cd.


There are also OSS live cd's to do the same:

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php




Re: [H] Vista 64 partitioner

2008-11-12 Thread Greg Sevart
Depending on what you're trying to accomplish, you may be able to do what
you're looking for without any third party tools. Basic partition shrinking
and extension capabilities are built in to Disk Management in Vista. It does
have some limitations (it won't shuffle around data to allow you to shrink
more, so you may need to do a defrag to consolidate data).

And no, don't use any software to re-partition unless it explicitly supports
Vista.

Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
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 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:30 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] Vista 64 partitioner
 
 I have a new laptop that came with Vista 64. My version of Acronis
 Disk Director doesn't support Vista 64. is there any reason why I
 can't just boot to DOS and re partition using Partition Magic for DOS?





Re: [H] Vista 64 partitioner

2008-11-12 Thread Greg Sevart
Have you tried shrinking the existing partition within Disk Management? You
could then create a new one. XP's install is going to jack your BCD though,
so you'll have to fix it after the installation. Not sure how, but it should
be possible. Note that every time you boot XP, it will also wipe out all
system restore points, etc. within Vista, since it doesn't understand the
new VSS mechanism.

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:28 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Vista 64 partitioner
 
 Well, Partition Magic 9 in DOS does support VISTA, I have used it
 with Vista 32.Of course I am not suggesting running it in Vista.
 
 After all, a NTFS drive is a NTFS drive. I just don't have much
 experience with Vista 64 although I don't see why it wouldn't work as
 well.
 
 And I want to resize and create  a new partition to install XP32 on.
 
 So what does work with Vista 64
 
 At 06:03 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote:
 Depending on what you're trying to accomplish, you may be able to do
 what
 you're looking for without any third party tools. Basic partition
 shrinking
 and extension capabilities are built in to Disk Management in Vista.
 It does
 have some limitations (it won't shuffle around data to allow you to
 shrink
 more, so you may need to do a defrag to consolidate data).
 
 And no, don't use any software to re-partition unless it explicitly
 supports
 Vista.
 
 Greg





Re: [H] Vista 64 partitioner

2008-11-12 Thread Brian Weeden
I had a really bad episode with Partition Magic a couple years ago where it
FUBARd a partition and I stopped using it.  I've been using Acronis since
and really like it.  If you can't use Acronis, I second Ben's recommendation
for Gparted.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am a big fan of the gparted CD. I've used it successfully on many Red Hat
 boxes.


 maccrawj wrote:

 Depending on the version of PM you should not be using it period. Assuming
 your's is not one of the versions that screws up, I'd imagine it does not
 matter what the OS is as long as it supports the filesystem type  version.

 Doesn't ADD allow you to make a boot cd? Could have sworn I have a TI 
 ADD on the same boot cd.

 There are also OSS live cd's to do the same:

 http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php





Re: [H] Vista 64 partitioner

2008-11-12 Thread Winterlight

At 11:37 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote:

Have you tried shrinking the existing partition within Disk Management? You
could then create a new one. XP's install is going to jack your BCD though,
so you'll have to fix it after the installation. Not sure how, but it should
be possible. Note that every time you boot XP, it will also wipe out all
system restore points, etc. within Vista, since it doesn't understand the
new VSS mechanism.


I don't use restore points, if I am worried about something I image 
with Acronis. I wouldn't even be thinking twice about using PM except 
it is a brand new laptop.


Your right about the boot screenI don't know why MS changed it in 
the first place. the old way is easy to deal with. But  I may have to 
use a boot manager to do this.


m




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:28 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Vista 64 partitioner

 Well, Partition Magic 9 in DOS does support VISTA, I have used it
 with Vista 32.Of course I am not suggesting running it in Vista.

 After all, a NTFS drive is a NTFS drive. I just don't have much
 experience with Vista 64 although I don't see why it wouldn't work as
 well.

 And I want to resize and create  a new partition to install XP32 on.

 So what does work with Vista 64

 At 06:03 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote:
 Depending on what you're trying to accomplish, you may be able to do
 what
 you're looking for without any third party tools. Basic partition
 shrinking
 and extension capabilities are built in to Disk Management in Vista.
 It does
 have some limitations (it won't shuffle around data to allow you to
 shrink
 more, so you may need to do a defrag to consolidate data).
 
 And no, don't use any software to re-partition unless it explicitly
 supports
 Vista.
 
 Greg




[H] Vista 64 partitioner

2008-11-11 Thread Winterlight
I have a new laptop that came with Vista 64. My version of Acronis 
Disk Director doesn't support Vista 64. is there any reason why I 
can't just boot to DOS and re partition using Partition Magic for DOS?