Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
At 12:18 PM 11/10/2010, Joe User wrote: Hello, Does anyone know if there are going to be any major CPU changes in the next 30 days or so? Just trying to figure the best time to buy... Let's try that again. I think all the new stuff is coming out first quarter 2011. T
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
At 12:18 PM 11/10/2010, Joe User wrote: Hello, Does anyone know if there are going to be any major CPU changes in the next 30 days or so? Just trying to figure the best time to buy... I think all the -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
[H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
Hello, Does anyone know if there are going to be any major CPU changes in the next 30 days or so? Just trying to figure the best time to buy... -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
Hello Gary, Indeed, I will probably go single gpu as I won't see much benefit in WoW, as I would in getting the almost very best CPU, memory, and SSD. Friday, October 8, 2010, 8:39:15 AM, you wrote: > If you are considering dual GPUs for WOW, I would check the tech > support forums on Blizz first. I have seen some people have problems with > that setup, but since I am not using that I never really looked very > hard. As I understand it, WoW is more CPU intensive then GPU. > RegardsGray -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
Hello Gary, Great thanks, yeah.. no raid not enough of a performance boost to warrant the cost (for gaming, IMO). Friday, October 8, 2010, 8:35:30 AM, you wrote: > Good Morning, > At this point, I would say about 6 weeks ago. I used an Asus Rampage II > Extreme MB that a friend bought and decided not to use. So he gave me a > very good deal on it. I initially planned to OC the system, and my > understanding was that it was a good MB for that. I decided against the OC > at the last minute as at 3.06 Ghz, I felt the cpu was fast enough for my > needs and I always seem to have heat issues with my builds. So far that > hasn't been the case with this one...thankfully. > I had asked about the SSDs as I thought possibly you were going for a > RAID 1 with them, which as I understand it isn't a good idea, even with > TRIM. But I have no experience as of yet with them so I am not 100% > positive either. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
Hello Scoobydo, Thanks, this does help me, I will use a single monitor setup as my Samsung 244T serves me and i have limited space at this time. I did drool though as I read your email. My current card is a 4870 but I plan to keep it in the system I will be upgrading. I have had some issues with it but it served me well for the most part. I would like to go back to nVidia tho. Friday, October 8, 2010, 6:51:41 AM, you wrote: > My take on the hardware reviews that I've read and the fact that I own a > GTX 460 and an HD 5770 is that dual 5770's in a crossfire config are > currently the best bang for the buck if WOW has been given a profile by > AMD's driver writers. You'd have to check that out and see. On the other > hand, the GTX 460 is a superior architecture and the best bang for the > buck in a single card config (not near as fast as 2 5770's though). The > only problem you might run into with either setup is your resolution. If > you want AMD's Eyefinity 3 monitor setup you're better off with a single > HD 5870 and if you can afford such a game system you would probably be > amazed by it. My 24" monitor recently took a crap on me just weeks out of > warranty after 3 years and I bought an ASUS 21.5" 1080P that only uses 31 > watts when running. If I were to get a 3 monitor setup I would like to > burn as few trons as possible and such a monitor would be excellent for > that purpose I believe. If you're running a single 30" monitor either card > config discussed above would probably be adequate but not optimal. Hope > that helps you.. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
If you are considering dual GPUs for WOW, I would check the tech support forums on Blizz first. I have seen some people have problems with that setup, but since I am not using that I never really looked very hard. As I understand it, WoW is more CPU intensive then GPU. RegardsGray At 12:30 AM 10/8/2010, It was written by Joe User that this shall come to pass: Hello Scoobydo, Thanks... It is. Not a fan of water cooling and not going to OC other suggestions then? Would dual ATI be better for performance? Thursday, October 7, 2010, 4:48:03 PM, you wrote: > You never said what resolution your monitor is but I assume 1920X1200 > probably.. > ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 > AMD Phenom II X4 970 (3.5 GHz) > Corsair H50 Water Cooler > G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 (4x4) > Nvidia GTX460 1 Gig Video Card > or AMD HD 5770 Crossfire setup > OCZ Agility 2 SSD (Sandforce 1200 controller) > Seasonic 500-600 Modular PSU > Any questions? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
Good Morning, At this point, I would say about 6 weeks ago. I used an Asus Rampage II Extreme MB that a friend bought and decided not to use. So he gave me a very good deal on it. I initially planned to OC the system, and my understanding was that it was a good MB for that. I decided against the OC at the last minute as at 3.06 Ghz, I felt the cpu was fast enough for my needs and I always seem to have heat issues with my builds. So far that hasn't been the case with this one...thankfully. I had asked about the SSDs as I thought possibly you were going for a RAID 1 with them, which as I understand it isn't a good idea, even with TRIM. But I have no experience as of yet with them so I am not 100% positive either. Regards...Gary At 12:27 AM 10/8/2010, It was written by Joe User that this shall come to pass: Hello Gary, Thanks for your reply, how long ago did you build this? What motherboard did you use and why? I want to use 2 SSD's and use one for the OS and the page/swap file and the other for the apps/games. Thursday, October 7, 2010, 1:21:02 PM, you wrote: > A couple of suggestions to look at...most of which I am using right now > for what it is worth. > I7 950 for the CPU, I decided not to overclock > nVidia 460 I am using a single 480, but I have read good things on the 460s > 6 gb DDr3 > I am currently using a HAF 932 for my case, good airflow, a bit noisier > then I would like though. > I am using a Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler it works > well, but is HUGE. > Out of curiosity, why 2 SSDs ? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
Yeah, OC'd or not, Corsair's H50 is inexpensive and high performance (the new H70 by all accounts has loud fans according to HardOCP and it's forum members). Very compact for a less cluttered interior and the one I'd buy if I were to be in the market for a new CPU cooler.. On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 00:34:55 -0500, wrote: Those, while water cool, are closed systems. So you never add or remove anything from them. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Joe User Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 00:30:04 To: Scoobydo Reply-To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc Hello Scoobydo, Thanks... It is. Not a fan of water cooling and not going to OC other suggestions then? Would dual ATI be better for performance? Thursday, October 7, 2010, 4:48:03 PM, you wrote: You never said what resolution your monitor is but I assume 1920X1200 probably.. ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AMD Phenom II X4 970 (3.5 GHz) Corsair H50 Water Cooler G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 (4x4) Nvidia GTX460 1 Gig Video Card or AMD HD 5770 Crossfire setup OCZ Agility 2 SSD (Sandforce 1200 controller) Seasonic 500-600 Modular PSU Any questions? -- Opera's e-mail client Main Machine: Generic Steel Case ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 Mobo AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Default speed) OCZ DDR3 1333 (2x2=4) Palit GTX460 1 Gig (OC'd to 865 MHz) WD Cariar Black 640 Gig Lite On 22X DVD Burner ASUS 21.5" 1080P Monitor fold...@home (11,000 PPD) Game Box: Cooler Master CM690 Mid-Tower Gigabyte 785G/SB710 AMD Phenom II X2 555 C3 Corsair Dominator RAM 2 gigs PowerColor HD5770 1 gig Seasonic 550 watt PSU Seagate 7200.12 500 gig LiteOn DVD Burner
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
My take on the hardware reviews that I've read and the fact that I own a GTX 460 and an HD 5770 is that dual 5770's in a crossfire config are currently the best bang for the buck if WOW has been given a profile by AMD's driver writers. You'd have to check that out and see. On the other hand, the GTX 460 is a superior architecture and the best bang for the buck in a single card config (not near as fast as 2 5770's though). The only problem you might run into with either setup is your resolution. If you want AMD's Eyefinity 3 monitor setup you're better off with a single HD 5870 and if you can afford such a game system you would probably be amazed by it. My 24" monitor recently took a crap on me just weeks out of warranty after 3 years and I bought an ASUS 21.5" 1080P that only uses 31 watts when running. If I were to get a 3 monitor setup I would like to burn as few trons as possible and such a monitor would be excellent for that purpose I believe. If you're running a single 30" monitor either card config discussed above would probably be adequate but not optimal. Hope that helps you.. On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 00:30:04 -0500, Joe User wrote: Hello Scoobydo, Thanks... It is. Not a fan of water cooling and not going to OC other suggestions then? Would dual ATI be better for performance? Thursday, October 7, 2010, 4:48:03 PM, you wrote: You never said what resolution your monitor is but I assume 1920X1200 probably.. ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AMD Phenom II X4 970 (3.5 GHz) Corsair H50 Water Cooler G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 (4x4) Nvidia GTX460 1 Gig Video Card or AMD HD 5770 Crossfire setup OCZ Agility 2 SSD (Sandforce 1200 controller) Seasonic 500-600 Modular PSU Any questions? -- Opera's e-mail client Main Machine: Generic Steel Case ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 Mobo AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Default speed) OCZ DDR3 1333 (2x2=4) Palit GTX460 1 Gig (OC'd to 865 MHz) WD Cariar Black 640 Gig Lite On 22X DVD Burner ASUS 21.5" 1080P Monitor fold...@home (11,000 PPD) Game Box: Cooler Master CM690 Mid-Tower Gigabyte 785G/SB710 AMD Phenom II X2 555 C3 Corsair Dominator RAM 2 gigs PowerColor HD5770 1 gig Seasonic 550 watt PSU Seagate 7200.12 500 gig LiteOn DVD Burner
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
Those, while water cool, are closed systems. So you never add or remove anything from them. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Joe User Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 00:30:04 To: Scoobydo Reply-To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc Hello Scoobydo, Thanks... It is. Not a fan of water cooling and not going to OC other suggestions then? Would dual ATI be better for performance? Thursday, October 7, 2010, 4:48:03 PM, you wrote: > You never said what resolution your monitor is but I assume 1920X1200 > probably.. > ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 > AMD Phenom II X4 970 (3.5 GHz) > Corsair H50 Water Cooler > G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 (4x4) > Nvidia GTX460 1 Gig Video Card > or AMD HD 5770 Crossfire setup > OCZ Agility 2 SSD (Sandforce 1200 controller) > Seasonic 500-600 Modular PSU > Any questions? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
Hello Scoobydo, Thanks... It is. Not a fan of water cooling and not going to OC other suggestions then? Would dual ATI be better for performance? Thursday, October 7, 2010, 4:48:03 PM, you wrote: > You never said what resolution your monitor is but I assume 1920X1200 > probably.. > ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 > AMD Phenom II X4 970 (3.5 GHz) > Corsair H50 Water Cooler > G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 (4x4) > Nvidia GTX460 1 Gig Video Card > or AMD HD 5770 Crossfire setup > OCZ Agility 2 SSD (Sandforce 1200 controller) > Seasonic 500-600 Modular PSU > Any questions? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
Hello Gary, Thanks for your reply, how long ago did you build this? What motherboard did you use and why? I want to use 2 SSD's and use one for the OS and the page/swap file and the other for the apps/games. Thursday, October 7, 2010, 1:21:02 PM, you wrote: > A couple of suggestions to look at...most of which I am using right now > for what it is worth. > I7 950 for the CPU, I decided not to overclock > nVidia 460 I am using a single 480, but I have read good things on the 460s > 6 gb DDr3 > I am currently using a HAF 932 for my case, good airflow, a bit noisier > then I would like though. > I am using a Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler it works > well, but is HUGE. > Out of curiosity, why 2 SSDs ? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
You never said what resolution your monitor is but I assume 1920X1200 probably.. ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AMD Phenom II X4 970 (3.5 GHz) Corsair H50 Water Cooler G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 (4x4) Nvidia GTX460 1 Gig Video Card or AMD HD 5770 Crossfire setup OCZ Agility 2 SSD (Sandforce 1200 controller) Seasonic 500-600 Modular PSU Any questions? On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 11:26:37 -0500, Joe User wrote: Hello THG, The time has come. On December 7, 2010 WoW Cataclysm will be gloriously released to the masses. Now, I must construct a new game system. The last few times I have built systems for myself, I have found great advice here on the list and so I am here again. While the requirements and suggestions have not been released to the actual system specs, I already know what I need to do... - One step down from the best CPU possible (AMD or Intel). - Minimum 4GB RAM. - One step down from best video card available (ATI or nVidia). - SSD x 2 (Intel was best last I knew?). - Motherboard to handle all this. - Power supply that is appropriate. I don't care about noise. I want the best bang for my buck. I can handle the rest. Suggestions please? -- Opera's e-mail client Main Machine: Generic Steel Case ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 Mobo AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Default speed) OCZ DDR3 1333 (2x2=4) Palit GTX460 1 Gig (OC'd to 865 MHz) WD Cariar Black 640 Gig Lite On 22X DVD Burner ASUS 21.5" 1080P Monitor fold...@home (11,000 PPD) Game Box: Cooler Master CM690 Mid-Tower Gigabyte 785G/SB710 AMD Phenom II X2 555 C3 Corsair Dominator RAM 2 gigs PowerColor HD5770 1 gig Seasonic 550 watt PSU Seagate 7200.12 500 gig LiteOn DVD Burner
Re: [H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
A couple of suggestions to look at...most of which I am using right now for what it is worth. I7 950 for the CPU, I decided not to overclock nVidia 460 I am using a single 480, but I have read good things on the 460s 6 gb DDr3 I am currently using a HAF 932 for my case, good airflow, a bit noisier then I would like though. I am using a Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler it works well, but is HUGE. Out of curiosity, why 2 SSDs ? Regardsgary At 11:26 AM 10/7/2010, It was written by Joe User that this shall come to pass: Hello THG, The time has come. On December 7, 2010 WoW Cataclysm will be gloriously released to the masses. Now, I must construct a new game system. The last few times I have built systems for myself, I have found great advice here on the list and so I am here again. While the requirements and suggestions have not been released to the actual system specs, I already know what I need to do... - One step down from the best CPU possible (AMD or Intel). - Minimum 4GB RAM. - One step down from best video card available (ATI or nVidia). - SSD x 2 (Intel was best last I knew?). - Motherboard to handle all this. - Power supply that is appropriate. I don't care about noise. I want the best bang for my buck. I can handle the rest. Suggestions please? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
[H] WoW Cataclysm & my new game pc
Hello THG, The time has come. On December 7, 2010 WoW Cataclysm will be gloriously released to the masses. Now, I must construct a new game system. The last few times I have built systems for myself, I have found great advice here on the list and so I am here again. While the requirements and suggestions have not been released to the actual system specs, I already know what I need to do... - One step down from the best CPU possible (AMD or Intel). - Minimum 4GB RAM. - One step down from best video card available (ATI or nVidia). - SSD x 2 (Intel was best last I knew?). - Motherboard to handle all this. - Power supply that is appropriate. I don't care about noise. I want the best bang for my buck. I can handle the rest. Suggestions please? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
