Re: [H] load balance switch?
So I'm averaging 750 Mbps with AT and 425 Mbps with SuddenLink with pings in the low single digits with both. So when I get the dual WAN router set up, I'll really be able to DL my email. ;-) Thx. Al On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:49 AM Al A wrote: > > Thanks for the heads up. It's mostly just to do it for fun. The slower > SuddenLink ISP will go away at some point, > > Thx, > Al > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:20 PM Greg Sevart wrote: > > > > Just make sure you have realistic expectations about what you'll be able to > > accomplish. > > > >
Re: [H] load balance switch?
Thanks for the heads up. It's mostly just to do it for fun. The slower SuddenLink ISP will go away at some point, Thx, Al On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:20 PM Greg Sevart wrote: > > Just make sure you have realistic expectations about what you'll be able to > accomplish. > >
Re: [H] load balance switch?
Just make sure you have realistic expectations about what you'll be able to accomplish. If your goal is to somehow combine two connections to increase the speed of, say, a single download stream--you will not be able to do that. Using policy-based routing, you WOULD be able to do things like have certain traffic only use or preferentially use a given connection, or have a basic failover based on interface status, packet loss, latency, etc. Yes, it is possible to have *different* requests spread across your connections, and there are some mechanisms that will use multiple streams for a single download automatically, such as bittorrent, NNTP, some HTTP downloads. For these scenarios, it *would* be possible to accelerate those using both connections, but be mindful that the added complexity is going to make troubleshooting any sort of connectivity or throughput issue more complicated. I have two connections and use pfSense. I have routing groups set up such that traffic will automatically use the other connection should one fail, and I have some traffic preferentially (or only) use a specific connection. For example, my guest wireless network does not use my "main" fiber connection unless it's down. I don't run any groups with equal weight / tier values, or what some would call "load balancing" - and wouldn't recommend it unless you're trying to solve a very specific sort of problem. -Original Message- From: Hardware On Behalf Of Al A Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:33 PM To: Hardware Group Subject: Re: [H] load balance switch? Hoping to use the onboard NIC and two cards. https://soggi.org/motherboards/msi-oem/MS-7336-VER-1.0.htm Al On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 9:07 PM Z Vaper wrote: > > I think for your use case you may need 3 nics. > > Wan0 wan1 and lan0. > > Lan0 being your local network. > > You can do trickery such as assigning one lab port to two wants with tagging > trunking and vlans bit that’s too much work for a home setup. > > Zulfiqar Naushad > On Jun 18, 2020, 3:03 PM -0400, Al A , wrote: > > https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-configure-dual-wan-load-balance- > > failover-pfsense-router/ > > So I just need one more NIC. > > > > Thanks again, just what I needed. > > Al > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:17 PM Al A wrote: > > > > > I do have a Core 2 Duo 4GiB and an extra NIC to put in it. That's > > > a good idea. > > > > > > Thanks fellas, for your replies. > > > A
Re: [H] load balance switch?
Hoping to use the onboard NIC and two cards. https://soggi.org/motherboards/msi-oem/MS-7336-VER-1.0.htm Al On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 9:07 PM Z Vaper wrote: > > I think for your use case you may need 3 nics. > > Wan0 wan1 and lan0. > > Lan0 being your local network. > > You can do trickery such as assigning one lab port to two wants with tagging > trunking and vlans bit that’s too much work for a home setup. > > Zulfiqar Naushad > On Jun 18, 2020, 3:03 PM -0400, Al A , wrote: > > https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-configure-dual-wan-load-balance-failover-pfsense-router/ > > So I just need one more NIC. > > > > Thanks again, just what I needed. > > Al > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:17 PM Al A wrote: > > > > > I do have a Core 2 Duo 4GiB and an extra NIC to put in it. That's a good > > > idea. > > > > > > Thanks fellas, for your replies. > > > A
Re: [H] load balance switch?
I think for your use case you may need 3 nics. Wan0 wan1 and lan0. Lan0 being your local network. You can do trickery such as assigning one lab port to two wants with tagging trunking and vlans bit that’s too much work for a home setup. Zulfiqar Naushad On Jun 18, 2020, 3:03 PM -0400, Al A , wrote: > https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-configure-dual-wan-load-balance-failover-pfsense-router/ > So I just need one more NIC. > > Thanks again, just what I needed. > Al > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:17 PM Al A wrote: > > > I do have a Core 2 Duo 4GiB and an extra NIC to put in it. That's a good > > idea. > > > > Thanks fellas, for your replies. > > A
Re: [H] load balance switch?
Dpi = deep packet inspection. Damned autocorrect. Zulfiqar Naushad On Jun 18, 2020, 3:15 PM -0400, Z Vaper , wrote: > Your computer should be fine. Just make sure not to enable dpi (derp packer > inspection). That brings down my 8 thread ryzen 3300x to its knees on a > gigabit connection. > > Keep it simple and you should be more than fine. > > Also enable hardware offload checksum and please use Intel nics. Everything > else is garbo. > > Zulfiqar Naushad > On Jun 18, 2020, 3:03 PM -0400, Al A , wrote: > > https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-configure-dual-wan-load-balance-failover-pfsense-router/ > > So I just need one more NIC. > > > > Thanks again, just what I needed. > > Al > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:17 PM Al A wrote: > > > > > I do have a Core 2 Duo 4GiB and an extra NIC to put in it. That's a good > > > idea. > > > > > > Thanks fellas, for your replies. > > > A
Re: [H] load balance switch?
Your computer should be fine. Just make sure not to enable dpi (derp packer inspection). That brings down my 8 thread ryzen 3300x to its knees on a gigabit connection. Keep it simple and you should be more than fine. Also enable hardware offload checksum and please use Intel nics. Everything else is garbo. Zulfiqar Naushad On Jun 18, 2020, 3:03 PM -0400, Al A , wrote: > https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-configure-dual-wan-load-balance-failover-pfsense-router/ > So I just need one more NIC. > > Thanks again, just what I needed. > Al > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:17 PM Al A wrote: > > > I do have a Core 2 Duo 4GiB and an extra NIC to put in it. That's a good > > idea. > > > > Thanks fellas, for your replies. > > A
Re: [H] load balance switch?
https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-configure-dual-wan-load-balance-failover-pfsense-router/ So I just need one more NIC. Thanks again, just what I needed. Al On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:17 PM Al A wrote: > I do have a Core 2 Duo 4GiB and an extra NIC to put in it. That's a good > idea. > > Thanks fellas, for your replies. > A
Re: [H] load balance switch?
I do have a Core 2 Duo 4GiB and an extra NIC to put in it. That's a good idea. Thanks fellas, for your replies. Al On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 5:52 PM Z Vaper wrote: > > Pfsense opnsense and untangle. I have a subscription to untangle so I’m > partial to that but I’ve used pfsense and opnsense and both are exceedingly > good. > > Zulfiqar Naushad > On Jun 18, 2020, 1:51 PM -0400, Z Vaper , wrote: > > If you have a spare computer throw in 2 nics a dash of pfsense and you can > > do whatever your heart desires.
Re: [H] load balance switch?
Pfsense opnsense and untangle. I have a subscription to untangle so I’m partial to that but I’ve used pfsense and opnsense and both are exceedingly good. Zulfiqar Naushad On Jun 18, 2020, 1:51 PM -0400, Z Vaper , wrote: > If you have a spare computer throw in 2 nics a dash of pfsense and you can do > whatever your heart desires. > > Zulfiqar Naushad > On Jun 18, 2020, 1:40 PM -0400, Al A , wrote: > > I was thinking I didn't want a router behind a router, but maybe I do. > > https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1979801-wan-switch-non-router > > AT installs tomorrow. > > The hunt continues. > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:24 AM Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: > > > > > I also forgot to add. > > > > > > Search for Dual WAN routers and/or switches. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:24 PM Naushad Zulfiqar > > > wrote: > > > > > > > You need to create a LAGG (Link Aggregation) group. Just note that if > > > you > > > > exceed 1Gbps in combined bandwidth then you will have to have 2 > > > > ethernets > > > > going to your system too to get the benefit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 9:45 PM Al A wrote: > > > > > > > > > If I had internet from two sources (ATT and Suddenlink) is there a > > > > > load > > > > > balance switch I could split the load between them. All I can fine is: > > > > > > > > > > load balancer - splits incoming requests across multiple servers so > > > > > they > > > > > appear to be one more powerful server > > > > > > > > > > But what I want is the opposite, I think. Any help? > > > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Zulfiqar Naushad > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > Zulfiqar Naushad > > >
Re: [H] load balance switch?
If you have a spare computer throw in 2 nics a dash of pfsense and you can do whatever your heart desires. Zulfiqar Naushad On Jun 18, 2020, 1:40 PM -0400, Al A , wrote: > I was thinking I didn't want a router behind a router, but maybe I do. > https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1979801-wan-switch-non-router > AT installs tomorrow. > The hunt continues. > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:24 AM Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: > > > I also forgot to add. > > > > Search for Dual WAN routers and/or switches. > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:24 PM Naushad Zulfiqar > > wrote: > > > > > You need to create a LAGG (Link Aggregation) group. Just note that if > > you > > > exceed 1Gbps in combined bandwidth then you will have to have 2 ethernets > > > going to your system too to get the benefit. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 9:45 PM Al A wrote: > > > > > > > If I had internet from two sources (ATT and Suddenlink) is there a load > > > > balance switch I could split the load between them. All I can fine is: > > > > > > > > load balancer - splits incoming requests across multiple servers so they > > > > appear to be one more powerful server > > > > > > > > But what I want is the opposite, I think. Any help? > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > Zulfiqar Naushad > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Zulfiqar Naushad > >
Re: [H] load balance switch?
I was thinking I didn't want a router behind a router, but maybe I do. https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1979801-wan-switch-non-router AT installs tomorrow. The hunt continues. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:24 AM Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: > I also forgot to add. > > Search for Dual WAN routers and/or switches. > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:24 PM Naushad Zulfiqar > wrote: > > > You need to create a LAGG (Link Aggregation) group. Just note that if > you > > exceed 1Gbps in combined bandwidth then you will have to have 2 ethernets > > going to your system too to get the benefit. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 9:45 PM Al A wrote: > > > >> If I had internet from two sources (ATT and Suddenlink) is there a load > >> balance switch I could split the load between them. All I can fine is: > >> > >> load balancer - splits incoming requests across multiple servers so they > >> appear to be one more powerful server > >> > >> But what I want is the opposite, I think. Any help? > >> > >> TIA, > >> Al > >> > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Zulfiqar Naushad > > > > > -- > Best Regards, > > > Zulfiqar Naushad >
Re: [H] load balance switch?
Thanks, that gives me a place to start. At one time I had a TP-LINK TL-R470T Load Balance Router. My Suddenlink Gateway is so locked down I can't set it bridge mode. Tried to replace it with my own gateway but never could get it to work. Dealing with SuddenLink on the phone sucks, I don't yet know what equipment I'm getting with ATT. Thanks again. Al TP-LINK TL-R470T+ Load Balance Broadband Router On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:23 AM Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: > You need to create a LAGG (Link Aggregation) group. Just note that if you > exceed 1Gbps in combined bandwidth then you will have to have 2 ethernets > going to your system too to get the benefit. > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 9:45 PM Al A wrote: > > > If I had internet from two sources (ATT and Suddenlink) is there a load > > balance switch I could split the load between them. All I can fine is: > > > > load balancer - splits incoming requests across multiple servers so they > > appear to be one more powerful server > > > > But what I want is the opposite, I think. Any help? > > > > TIA, > > Al > > > > > -- > Best Regards, > > > Zulfiqar Naushad >
Re: [H] load balance switch?
I also forgot to add. Search for Dual WAN routers and/or switches. On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:24 PM Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: > You need to create a LAGG (Link Aggregation) group. Just note that if you > exceed 1Gbps in combined bandwidth then you will have to have 2 ethernets > going to your system too to get the benefit. > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 9:45 PM Al A wrote: > >> If I had internet from two sources (ATT and Suddenlink) is there a load >> balance switch I could split the load between them. All I can fine is: >> >> load balancer - splits incoming requests across multiple servers so they >> appear to be one more powerful server >> >> But what I want is the opposite, I think. Any help? >> >> TIA, >> Al >> > > > -- > Best Regards, > > > Zulfiqar Naushad > -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
Re: [H] load balance switch?
You need to create a LAGG (Link Aggregation) group. Just note that if you exceed 1Gbps in combined bandwidth then you will have to have 2 ethernets going to your system too to get the benefit. On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 9:45 PM Al A wrote: > If I had internet from two sources (ATT and Suddenlink) is there a load > balance switch I could split the load between them. All I can fine is: > > load balancer - splits incoming requests across multiple servers so they > appear to be one more powerful server > > But what I want is the opposite, I think. Any help? > > TIA, > Al > -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
[H] load balance switch?
If I had internet from two sources (ATT and Suddenlink) is there a load balance switch I could split the load between them. All I can fine is: load balancer - splits incoming requests across multiple servers so they appear to be one more powerful server But what I want is the opposite, I think. Any help? TIA, Al
