RE: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday
I do not see this as a good thing, they would get less support from Nvidia and they are the ones that have helped them come out from under lintels' rein. Mark Dodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. - Original Message - From: Chris Reeves To: The Hardware List Sent: 7/22/2006 10:42:57 AM Subject: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNewsstoryID=2006-07-22T000756Z_01_N21314930_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-ATI-AMD-COL.XMLarchived=False By Jessica Hall PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (AMD.N: Quote), the No. 2 supplier of computer processors, is close to a deal to buy graphics chip maker ATI Technologies Inc. (ATYT.O: Quote) (ATY.TO: Quote) for $5.5 billion, a source familiar with the situation said on Friday. Such a deal would shake up the processor industry, which is witnessing a tooth-and-nail fight for market share between AMD and larger rival Intel Corp. (INTC.O: Quote). AMD would gain one of two major graphics chips makers, the other being Nvidia Corp. (NVDA.O: Quote). Markham, Ontario-based ATI is also a big supplier of chipsets -- the cluster of secondary chips and interfaces that surround a computer's processor -- for AMD and Intel products. Unless talks break down, a deal could be announced as early as Monday, the source said. ATI and AMD both declined to comment.
RE: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday
At 09:57 AM 24/07/2006, Mark Dodge wrote: I do not see this as a good thing, they would get less support from Nvidia and they are the ones that have helped them come out from under lintels' rein. I think this is a big mistake. Now they are competing with two companies that have traditionally been winning. Plus they lose NVidia's chipset support. I can see NVidia dropping AMD (which sucks for those of use with their crappy NForce chipset drivers) and focussing completely on Intel. Imagine what NVidia could do if they turned their full attention to Intel's chipset. That plus the Core 2 is going to put AMD in a bind, I think. T
RE: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday
I think this is an overly worried look at this. Nvidia will not drop AMD chipset support. It just doesn't work out for them to do so, as it is very profitable for them, plus provides a solid base for them to sell their cards. In the end, Nvidia may actually like this combination because it pulls more of ATI's resources away from developing high-end cards which lower Nvidia's profit margins and pull them instead toward 4x4 physics processors, etc. I'm not sure what sucks for those of use with crappy Nforce drivers the Nforce chipset drivers have always been a snap for me, and very rarely cause any hiccups anywhere. I think Core2 puts AMD in a bind, because it is such a great performer, though board level support for it right now still sucks - which is a very short term problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday At 09:57 AM 24/07/2006, Mark Dodge wrote: I do not see this as a good thing, they would get less support from Nvidia and they are the ones that have helped them come out from under lintels' rein. I think this is a big mistake. Now they are competing with two companies that have traditionally been winning. Plus they lose NVidia's chipset support. I can see NVidia dropping AMD (which sucks for those of use with their crappy NForce chipset drivers) and focussing completely on Intel. Imagine what NVidia could do if they turned their full attention to Intel's chipset. That plus the Core 2 is going to put AMD in a bind, I think. T
RE: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday
At 10:19 AM 24/07/2006, Chris Reeves wrote: In the end, Nvidia may actually like this combination because it pulls more of ATI's resources away from developing high-end cards which lower Nvidia's profit margins and pull them instead toward 4x4 physics processors, etc. Maybe. I'm not sure what sucks for those of use with crappy Nforce drivers the Nforce chipset drivers have always been a snap for me, and very rarely cause any hiccups anywhere. Try setting up RAID. It's a POS, as has been discussed on the list before. T
Re: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday
Well, since NVidia makes only the chipsets I am not sure why it matters how much either of them make. If NVidia's chipset is profitable they will continue to make them. I don't know of many businesses that dispense with their bottom line only to prevent someone else from making a buck. -Gary Thane Sherrington said the following on 7/24/2006 7:20 PM: At 08:55 PM 24/07/2006, Gary Udstrand wrote: No way, NVidia won't walk away from supporting AMD with their chipset as long as they are making money. Perhaps. But who makes more money from an AMD motherboard, the chipset maker or the CPU manufacturer? T
Re: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday
there goes AMD :-} At 08:42 AM 7/22/2006, Chris Reeves Poked the stick with: http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNewsstoryID=2006-07-22T000756Z_01_N21314930_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-ATI-AMD-COL.XMLarchived=Falsehttp://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNewsstoryID=2006-07-22T000756Z_01_N21314930_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-ATI-AMD-COL.XMLarchived=False By Jessica Hall PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (AMD.N: http://ca.today.reuters.com/stocks/FinanceQuote.aspx?symbol=AMD.NQuote), the No. 2 supplier of computer processors, is close to a deal to buy graphics chip maker ATI Technologies Inc. (ATYT.O: http://ca.today.reuters.com/stocks/FinanceQuote.aspx?symbol=ATYT.OQuote) (ATY.TO: http://ca.today.reuters.com/stocks/FinanceQuote.aspx?symbol=ATY.TOQuote) for $5.5 billion, a source familiar with the situation said on Friday. Such a deal would shake up the processor industry, which is witnessing a tooth-and-nail fight for market share between AMD and larger rival Intel Corp. (INTC.O: http://ca.today.reuters.com/stocks/FinanceQuote.aspx?symbol=INTC.OQuote). AMD would gain one of two major graphics chips makers, the other being Nvidia Corp. (NVDA.O: http://ca.today.reuters.com/stocks/FinanceQuote.aspx?symbol=NVDA.OQuote). Markham, Ontario-based ATI is also a big supplier of chipsets -- the cluster of secondary chips and interfaces that surround a computer's processor -- for AMD and Intel products. Unless talks break down, a deal could be announced as early as Monday, the source said. ATI and AMD both declined to comment. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Make two grins grow where there was only a grouch before.