RE: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291
Yeah...I had a display that was equivalent (it was a HP-branded, Sony built professional display, $1300 MSRP, used the same tube as your 520) and I replaced it with a 20" WS LCD based on an LG.Philips S-IPS panel. I missed the extra 150 pixels of vertical resolution, but I don't regret my decision one bit. I later added a 24" WS LCD...I can't stand looking at a glass monitor anymore. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 7:16 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291 Zzzhuh? What's that? Discussions about superior displays? Wake me up when something tops my Sony 21" GDM-520 CRT (now 6 years old). I'll set my snooze alarm for next decade...zzz ;) >From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Hardware List >To: "'The Hardware List'" >Subject: RE: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291 >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:01:55 -0500 > >Not all Dell panels are the same. The 2407WFP is more of their premium >line, >whereas the E228WFP is a cheaper model. I'd stay away from the cheaper >panels, but the "Ultrasharp" models are typically quite decent. Of course, >I'd never buy a cheap display anyway. :) > >Greg > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe User >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:24 PM >To: 'The Hardware List' >Subject: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291 > >Hello Greg, > >Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 11:44:13 AM, you wrote: > > > In gaming, the overriding concern is typically response time. To this >end, >a > > TN+ panel is usually your best bet. > > > If you were doing graphics work, I wouldn't consider anything but an >S-IPS > > based display. S-PVA and P-MVA panels are good intermediate panels. > > > My brother, an avid gamer, has a 4:3 20" Viewsonic VP2030b display. It >uses > > a P-MVA panel and does a very nice job all-around. I'd be inclined to go >for > > the Dell 2407WFP though. It uses a S-PVA panel and has a quite >respectable > > response time, but your 6800 isn't going to run those games at native > > resolution (1920x1200) very well. > > >Yeah my 6800 is getting aged. I was looking at the Radeon X1950 Pro >AGP as an upgrade (a final one since this is an AGP system) However, I >was concerned about upgrading my PSU and also if the performance gain >would be that substantial. OK so Dell panels aren't so bad then? You >suggest 2407WFP Bryan suggested the 226BW. I don't mind (in fact I >expect to) paying for a quality panel. > > >-- >Regards, > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... > > > _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapr il07
Re: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291
From: "Veech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Veech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,The Hardware List To: "The Hardware List" Subject: Re: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:20:15 -0700 I felt the same way at first but I have to say that my Dell 2005 FPW hasn't disappointed me, and I haven't noticed a difference in my gaming since I got the Dell a year ago. I finally set my Nokia 17" CRT aside, and am enjoying the more efficient use of desktop space. As the gap narrows, the trade-off becomes acceptable unless you are doing CAD work or a lot of text-related work. The ghosting still stinks, and the ones that ghost the least have the worst color and black level. I hear that some 120hz LCDs are finally coming out (at least as TV sets). Congrats, welcome to 1999. At least 3:2 pulldown can finally die on an LCD. As long as I still have the desktop real estate, and as long as my eyesight stays eagle sharp - my big, ugly black & gray box stays put. _ Mortgage refinance is Hot. *Terms. Get a 5.375%* fix rate. Check savings https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2bbb&disc=y&vers=925&s=4056&p=5117
Re: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291
I felt the same way at first but I have to say that my Dell 2005 FPW hasn't disappointed me, and I haven't noticed a difference in my gaming since I got the Dell a year ago. I finally set my Nokia 17" CRT aside, and am enjoying the more efficient use of desktop space. As the gap narrows, the trade-off becomes acceptable unless you are doing CAD work or a lot of text-related work. - Original Message - From: "Hayes Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:16 PM Subject: RE: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291 Zzzhuh? What's that? Discussions about superior displays? Wake me up when something tops my Sony 21" GDM-520 CRT (now 6 years old). I'll set my snooze alarm for next decade...zzz ;) From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: "'The Hardware List'" Subject: RE: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:01:55 -0500 Not all Dell panels are the same. The 2407WFP is more of their premium line, whereas the E228WFP is a cheaper model. I'd stay away from the cheaper panels, but the "Ultrasharp" models are typically quite decent. Of course, I'd never buy a cheap display anyway. :) Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe User Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:24 PM To: 'The Hardware List' Subject: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291 Hello Greg, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 11:44:13 AM, you wrote: > In gaming, the overriding concern is typically response time. To this end, a > TN+ panel is usually your best bet. > If you were doing graphics work, I wouldn't consider anything but an S-IPS > based display. S-PVA and P-MVA panels are good intermediate panels. > My brother, an avid gamer, has a 4:3 20" Viewsonic VP2030b display. It uses > a P-MVA panel and does a very nice job all-around. I'd be inclined to > go for > the Dell 2407WFP though. It uses a S-PVA panel and has a quite respectable > response time, but your 6800 isn't going to run those games at native > resolution (1920x1200) very well. Yeah my 6800 is getting aged. I was looking at the Radeon X1950 Pro AGP as an upgrade (a final one since this is an AGP system) However, I was concerned about upgrading my PSU and also if the performance gain would be that substantial. OK so Dell panels aren't so bad then? You suggest 2407WFP Bryan suggested the 226BW. I don't mind (in fact I expect to) paying for a quality panel. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07
RE: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291
Zzzhuh? What's that? Discussions about superior displays? Wake me up when something tops my Sony 21" GDM-520 CRT (now 6 years old). I'll set my snooze alarm for next decade...zzz ;) From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: "'The Hardware List'" Subject: RE: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:01:55 -0500 Not all Dell panels are the same. The 2407WFP is more of their premium line, whereas the E228WFP is a cheaper model. I'd stay away from the cheaper panels, but the "Ultrasharp" models are typically quite decent. Of course, I'd never buy a cheap display anyway. :) Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe User Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:24 PM To: 'The Hardware List' Subject: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291 Hello Greg, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 11:44:13 AM, you wrote: > In gaming, the overriding concern is typically response time. To this end, a > TN+ panel is usually your best bet. > If you were doing graphics work, I wouldn't consider anything but an S-IPS > based display. S-PVA and P-MVA panels are good intermediate panels. > My brother, an avid gamer, has a 4:3 20" Viewsonic VP2030b display. It uses > a P-MVA panel and does a very nice job all-around. I'd be inclined to go for > the Dell 2407WFP though. It uses a S-PVA panel and has a quite respectable > response time, but your 6800 isn't going to run those games at native > resolution (1920x1200) very well. Yeah my 6800 is getting aged. I was looking at the Radeon X1950 Pro AGP as an upgrade (a final one since this is an AGP system) However, I was concerned about upgrading my PSU and also if the performance gain would be that substantial. OK so Dell panels aren't so bad then? You suggest 2407WFP Bryan suggested the 226BW. I don't mind (in fact I expect to) paying for a quality panel. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07
Re: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291
Mine is the Viewsonic 191b, which apparently has an MVA panel at 8ms, it was not the cheapest, but has been pretty decent. :) Not all Dell panels are the same. The 2407WFP is more of their premium line, whereas the E228WFP is a cheaper model. I'd stay away from the cheaper panels, but the "Ultrasharp" models are typically quite decent. Of course, I'd never buy a cheap display anyway. :) Greg
RE: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291
Not all Dell panels are the same. The 2407WFP is more of their premium line, whereas the E228WFP is a cheaper model. I'd stay away from the cheaper panels, but the "Ultrasharp" models are typically quite decent. Of course, I'd never buy a cheap display anyway. :) Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe User Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:24 PM To: 'The Hardware List' Subject: Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291 Hello Greg, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 11:44:13 AM, you wrote: > In gaming, the overriding concern is typically response time. To this end, a > TN+ panel is usually your best bet. > If you were doing graphics work, I wouldn't consider anything but an S-IPS > based display. S-PVA and P-MVA panels are good intermediate panels. > My brother, an avid gamer, has a 4:3 20" Viewsonic VP2030b display. It uses > a P-MVA panel and does a very nice job all-around. I'd be inclined to go for > the Dell 2407WFP though. It uses a S-PVA panel and has a quite respectable > response time, but your 6800 isn't going to run those games at native > resolution (1920x1200) very well. Yeah my 6800 is getting aged. I was looking at the Radeon X1950 Pro AGP as an upgrade (a final one since this is an AGP system) However, I was concerned about upgrading my PSU and also if the performance gain would be that substantial. OK so Dell panels aren't so bad then? You suggest 2407WFP Bryan suggested the 226BW. I don't mind (in fact I expect to) paying for a quality panel. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
Re[4]: [H] Samsung 226BW 22" WideScreen LCD - $291
Hello Greg, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 11:44:13 AM, you wrote: > In gaming, the overriding concern is typically response time. To this end, a > TN+ panel is usually your best bet. > If you were doing graphics work, I wouldn't consider anything but an S-IPS > based display. S-PVA and P-MVA panels are good intermediate panels. > My brother, an avid gamer, has a 4:3 20" Viewsonic VP2030b display. It uses > a P-MVA panel and does a very nice job all-around. I'd be inclined to go for > the Dell 2407WFP though. It uses a S-PVA panel and has a quite respectable > response time, but your 6800 isn't going to run those games at native > resolution (1920x1200) very well. Yeah my 6800 is getting aged. I was looking at the Radeon X1950 Pro AGP as an upgrade (a final one since this is an AGP system) However, I was concerned about upgrading my PSU and also if the performance gain would be that substantial. OK so Dell panels aren't so bad then? You suggest 2407WFP Bryan suggested the 226BW. I don't mind (in fact I expect to) paying for a quality panel. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
