Re: [Haskell-cafe] Observer pattern in haskell FRP
hey all, i've been lurking in this thread for a bit i just found this interesting article from chris granger (yeah, the light table guy). he just completed the node knockout they had recently decided to make a game. he did it all in clojurescript he discusses some aspects of programming a game in a functional language. so maybe this will give you some ideas on how to write games in haskell. anyway, linkage: http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/12/11/anatomy-of-a-knockout/ serialhex -- * If God had a beard, he'd be a UNIX programmer. * Some people pray for more than they are willing to work for. * This is Linux. Distro is a proper subset of Settings. --TwilightXaos on slashdot --- CFO: “What happens if we train people and they leave?” CTO: “What if we don’t and they stay?” ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] good lightweight web-framework like sinatra?
i'm looking for something lightweight, that dosnt need it's own server, can easily run on cgi on an apache with minimal work, and dosn't have many dependancies. i was looking at yesod, but it is bigger than i need for my site (at this point) and would take too much work to get running on my webhost. though i am looking forward to learning it and using it in the future, i just need something that will play nicely with apache cgi... justin p.s. if anyone is interested to know i'm using nearlyfreespeach.net as my host... haskell is one of the many languages they support via cgi, but, at the moment, it is kind of difficult to get yesod or rails or the like to work on it... :-/ -- * The wise man said: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. * As a programmer, it is your job to put yourself out of business. What you do today can be automated tomorrow. ~Doug McIlroy No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. --- CFO: “What happens if we train people and they leave?” CTO: “What if we don’t and they stay?” ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Open-source projects for beginning Haskell students?
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Heinrich Apfelmus apfel...@quantentunnel.de wrote: The task is to implement a small audio synthesizer in Haskell. seriously?!?! i'm not in his class, but i'm game! i learn better when i'm working on something interesting, and i want to make my (currently pretty pathetic) haskell better and i *LOOOE* audio! a haskell-based synth (or series of synths) would be really spiffy! what do i have to know / learn / do? justin -- * The wise man said: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. * As a programmer, it is your job to put yourself out of business. What you do today can be automated tomorrow. ~Doug McIlroy No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. --- CFO: “What happens if we train people and they leave?” CTO: “What if we don’t and they stay?” ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Theoretical question: are side effects necessary?
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Felipe Almeida Lessa felipe.le...@gmail.com wrote: If you're asking about performance, as in is there a problem that can be solved in O(f(n)) time in Java but not in Haskell-sans-IO-and-ST?, then it becomes a harder question. I'm not sure what the answer is. Cheers, -- Felipe. /lurk an interesting question emerges: even though i may be able to implement an algorithm with O(f(n)) in Haskell, and write a program that is O(g(n)) O(f(n)) in C++ or Java... could Haskell be said to be more efficient if time spent programming / maintaining Haskell is C++ or Java?? i'm still trying to learn Haskell, but it seems to me to be *much* less verbose than C and it's derivatives, and while jumping through monads just to print to a screen or write a file seems a small expence to pay to be able to express what you want easier... justin lurk -- * The wise man said: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. * As a programmer, it is your job to put yourself out of business. What you do today can be automated tomorrow. ~Doug McIlroy No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. --- CFO: “What happens if we train people and they leave?” CTO: “What if we don’t and they stay?” ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Functional programming podcast
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Christopher Done chrisd...@googlemail.comwrote: On 15 March 2012 06:53, Clint Moore cl...@ivy.io wrote: We're closing in on a month since this post. Did everyone decide to do their own thing, do nothing, or ? Ah, I'd been traveling after posting this and then settling back in work, this remains on my TODO list in my organizer. I have no plans laid out, it's something I've wanted for some time and this post is the “Hey guys what if?” We should continue—my time zone is UTC+1, I am usually free within 19-23:00 with varying degrees of freeness. Friday and the rest of the weekend is better. We could try out G+ hangout and or I can setup a Mumble on hpaste.org. These are good for group chats, and if the quality isn't too great we can each record locally also and synchronize the audio later. Anyway, must dash. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe hmm... UTC-5 here ( -4 right now with DST... or whatever excuse it is to deprive me of an hour of sleep!) fridays the weekend are good for me too. i work til 18:00 on fri 16:00 on sat... also, google hangouts would (should) work for me. i know skype is *really* flaky, but the google video chat has been pretty ok. lets hope my newbishness dosn't turn anybody off :P me -- * The wise man said: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. * As a programmer, it is your job to put yourself out of business. What you do today can be automated tomorrow. ~Doug McIlroy No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. --- CFO: “What happens if we train people and they leave?” CTO: “What if we don’t and they stay?” ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] anyone know what happened to nlpwp?
i was going through nlpwp.org learning haskell natural language processing at the same time, and a few days ago it just disappeared! does anybody know what happened to it? i can still access the google cache, and learn from there, but that'd be a pain for anybody new coming along who can't access this site... :( hex -- * my blog is cooler than yours: http://serialhex.github.com * The wise man said: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. * As a programmer, it is your job to put yourself out of business. What you do today can be automated tomorrow. ~Doug McIlroy No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. --- CFO: “What happens if we train people and they leave?” CTO: “What if we don’t and they stay?” ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] podcast?
Does anybody know of any good haskell/fp podcasts out there? i dont know if my googling skillz are just failing me, but i can't seem to find anything. thanks all! hex -- * my blog is cooler than yours: http://serialhex.github.com * The wise man said: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. * As a programmer, it is your job to put yourself out of business. What you do today can be automated tomorrow. ~Doug McIlroy No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. --- CFO: “What happens if we train people and they leave?” CTO: “What if we don’t and they stay?” ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Fancy REPL
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Heinrich Apfelmus apfel...@quantentunnel.de wrote: I'm not so sure about the soon part, but yes, using FRP to make music is part of the plan. you know, i've been thinking about this recently, and while i need more haskell skillz if i want to do some sound synthesis, i think it would be really spiffy to work on something like that! are you working on this privately or do you have a public repo one can clone? a fully-haskell sound synth program would be really spiffy!! (esp if one could code new synths in real-time in haskell) hex -- * my blog is cooler than yours: http://serialhex.github.com * The wise man said: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. * As a programmer, it is your job to put yourself out of business. What you do today can be automated tomorrow. ~Doug McIlroy No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. --- CFO: “What happens if we train people and they leave?” CTO: “What if we don’t and they stay?” ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
i wouldn't mind a cool mascot, so yes hex -- * my blog is cooler than yours: http://serialhex.github.com * The wise man said: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. * As a programmer, it is your job to put yourself out of business. What you do today can be automated tomorrow. ~Doug McIlroy --- CFO: “What happens if we train people and they leave?” CTO: “What if we don’t and they stay?” ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] A Mascot
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Jeremy Shaw jer...@n-heptane.com wrote: - honey badger - can't beat that for 'robust' and 'fearless', http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPKlryXwmXk i think you were referring to this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7pGZudN8rE (nsfw... almost) i +1 a honey badger for haskell. i'm a newb and it rocks!! hex -- * my blog is cooler than yours: http://serialhex.github.com * The wise man said: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. * As a programmer, it is your job to put yourself out of business. What you do today can be automated tomorrow. ~Doug McIlroy --- CFO: “What happens if we train people and they leave?” CTO: “What if we don’t and they stay?” ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] What is the status of GPU-accelerated Haskell?
Hi, there is an OpenCL / Haskell thread floating around the ML, mostly it's a dew ppl talking about merging the 5 (or so) bindings to the OpenCL api and getting spiffy multi-threaded haskell-awesomeness out of that. i think they are discussing the benefits/drawbacks of a pure-ish api conversion or a more haskell-ish conversion, or some combination thereof. either way, it exsists, and it's happening (though i'm not so sure about CUDA bindings... but OpenCL will work on Nvidia ATI cards the same) hex On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Rafael Gustavo da Cunha Pereira Pinto rafaelgcpp.li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I just bought a NVidia Fermi-based card and remembered reading a few months (years?) ago about some effort to accelerate array processing in Haskell using GPUs. How is this going on? Any progresses? Do we have GPU based DPH already? (the last one is a joke...) I keep thinking on the advantages of such GPU data processing on the signal processing field. Best regards, Rafael Gustavo da Cunha Pereira Pinto ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- * my blog is cooler than yours: http://serialhex.github.com * The wise man said: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. * As a programmer, it is your job to put yourself out of business. What you do today can be automated tomorrow. ~Doug McIlroy --- CFO: “What happens if we train people and they leave?” CTO: “What if we don’t and they stay?” ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Subcategories on Hackage
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 07:51, Andrew Coppin andrewcop...@btinternet.com wrote: Also, I don't think listing every package on all of Hackage in one giant page is very useful any more. (I gather it was only meant to be a temporary interface in the first place...) +1 (really +(foldl' (+) (repeat 1))...) — Hackage is *painful* these days. http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe i havn't a fscking clue how to implement such a beast, but i've seen (somewhere) tags that have their own heirarchy, so you could have (for instance) Image Stuff -2D -3D -Fractal -...etc... and also having multiple tags would help classify things, like a 3D Fractal renderer would be under Image Stuff - 3D Image Stuff - Fractal and probably even under Math Stuff (yeah, i know you *love* my technical names :P ) just my 0.02 cents hex -- Other than the fact Linux has a cool name, could someone explain why I should use Linux over BSD? No. That's it. The cool name, that is. We worked very hard on creating a name that would appeal to the majority of people, and it certainly paid off: thousands of people are using linux just to be able to say OS/2? Hah. I've got Linux. What a cool name. 386BSD made the mistake of putting a lot of numbers and weird abbreviations into the name, and is scaring away a lot of people just because it sounds too technical. -- Linus Torvalds' follow-up to a question about Linux ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Python is lazier than Haskell
so, as a n00b to haskell i can't say much about its laziness, and not knowing much about how python works i'm about the same there. though i do know ruby, and afaik ruby doesn't _care_ what type something is, just if it can do something. example from the rails framework: #--- class NilClass # nil is mostly equivalent to c's NULL def blank? true end end class String def blank? self.size == 0 end end [, person, nil].each do |element| puts element unless element.blank? end #--- the output of course would simply be person, but that's not the object of my post. in ruby they use what some call duck typing if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... it's a duck. unlike in most other programming languages where you have to draw blood in order to check if it's a duck (i mean, it could be a goose for all we know, and we all know what geese do to our programs...) and while this programming style might be useful in this (and many other) contexts, there are probably a bunch of others where it only gets in the way. also, in case you are wondering... haskell is going to be the second language i delve into. i've already started ruby and will have to un-learn a bunch of things because of that from what i read, but i find a number of haskells features to be interesting. and hey, it's a new way to think about problems right? hex ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] #haskell-game Haskellers Game Interest Group
i assume you mean here: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Game_Development http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Game_Developmentthe link wasnt in your orig post i had to google it :P i'm interested to see what you've got here. hex On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Korcan Hussein korca...@hotmail.comwrote: Some of us interested in Haskell GameDev have formed chat room Haskellers Interest Group, you can out find more info here. Just spreading the word around. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
