Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2011-03-21 Thread Pasqualino Titto Assini
Thanks for the info, it sounds reassuring.

One question: is machine performance stable? Do you ever see your
virtual machines slowing significantly?

My experience in running virtual machines locally is that it is easy
to use too much memory and end up with the machine badly swapping for
a while.

Have you ever seen this happening on EC2?

Thanks,

  titto

On 19 March 2011 12:52, Neil Davies semanticphilosop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 We run a the whole of our distributed file system (AFS) on a single AWS
 micro instance with linux containers inside.

 We then use other instances for various things as/when needed (using
 kerberos to distributed the management and control to the appropriate
 people). For example we have a EC2 machine that we power up and down as
 needed (still have to pay for the filestore when not being used - but that
 is very small) for GHC - used it this morning to upgrade our shared (via
 AFS) development environment to 7.0.2. All our other systems read of that
 (we are completely distributed operation).

 They've been great - had a physical processor go bad once - and also they
 had a h/w problem on one the machines once, that is in last 2 years or so
 about 6 operational system years.

 Neil





 On 19 Mar 2011, at 11:36, Pasqualino Titto Assini wrote:

 If you need to run your server continuously you might be better off
 with a cheap dedicated server.

 To run my quid2.org site, a rather complex setup with a web server and
 a number of background haskell processes, I use a server from the
 French provider OVH/Kimsufi (http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/  and
 http://www.ovh.co.uk/products/dedicated_offers.xml ,main site is
 ovh.com).

 You can get a decent box for 15 euro a month and a hell of a machine
 for 50/60 euros.

 They also have some Cloud/VPS options, that I have not used.


 Does anyone have first-hand experience with Amazon EC2?

 They also look very tempting.


 Best,

           titto


 On 19 March 2011 10:12, Lyndon Maydwell maydw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone have any Binaries that are built to run on EC2?

 That would be super!

 On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Jason Dusek jason.du...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 2010/01/31 Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de:

 If all you want is standard debian or such it does'nt matter.
 However I tried installing NixOS Linux and I've had lot's of
 trouble until switching to linode. NixOS was up and running
 within 30min then..

  How did you get NixOS on your Linode system? They don't seem to
  offer it, last I checked.

  I'm looking in to doing this with PRGMR, which has pretty good
  pricing though it's not nearly as featureful as Linode.

 --
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2011-03-19 Thread Lyndon Maydwell
Does anyone have any Binaries that are built to run on EC2?

That would be super!

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Jason Dusek jason.du...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/01/31 Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de:
 If all you want is standard debian or such it does'nt matter.
 However I tried installing NixOS Linux and I've had lot's of
 trouble until switching to linode. NixOS was up and running
 within 30min then..

  How did you get NixOS on your Linode system? They don't seem to
  offer it, last I checked.

  I'm looking in to doing this with PRGMR, which has pretty good
  pricing though it's not nearly as featureful as Linode.

 --
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2011-03-19 Thread Pasqualino Titto Assini
If you need to run your server continuously you might be better off
with a cheap dedicated server.

To run my quid2.org site, a rather complex setup with a web server and
a number of background haskell processes, I use a server from the
French provider OVH/Kimsufi (http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/  and
http://www.ovh.co.uk/products/dedicated_offers.xml ,main site is
ovh.com).

You can get a decent box for 15 euro a month and a hell of a machine
for 50/60 euros.

They also have some Cloud/VPS options, that I have not used.


Does anyone have first-hand experience with Amazon EC2?

They also look very tempting.


Best,

titto


On 19 March 2011 10:12, Lyndon Maydwell maydw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone have any Binaries that are built to run on EC2?

 That would be super!

 On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Jason Dusek jason.du...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/01/31 Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de:
 If all you want is standard debian or such it does'nt matter.
 However I tried installing NixOS Linux and I've had lot's of
 trouble until switching to linode. NixOS was up and running
 within 30min then..

  How did you get NixOS on your Linode system? They don't seem to
  offer it, last I checked.

  I'm looking in to doing this with PRGMR, which has pretty good
  pricing though it's not nearly as featureful as Linode.

 --
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2011-03-19 Thread Neil Davies

Hi

We run a the whole of our distributed file system (AFS) on a single  
AWS micro instance with linux containers inside.


We then use other instances for various things as/when needed (using  
kerberos to distributed the management and control to the appropriate  
people). For example we have a EC2 machine that we power up and down  
as needed (still have to pay for the filestore when not being used -  
but that is very small) for GHC - used it this morning to upgrade our  
shared (via AFS) development environment to 7.0.2. All our other  
systems read of that (we are completely distributed operation).


They've been great - had a physical processor go bad once - and also  
they had a h/w problem on one the machines once, that is in last 2  
years or so about 6 operational system years.


Neil





On 19 Mar 2011, at 11:36, Pasqualino Titto Assini wrote:


If you need to run your server continuously you might be better off
with a cheap dedicated server.

To run my quid2.org site, a rather complex setup with a web server and
a number of background haskell processes, I use a server from the
French provider OVH/Kimsufi (http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/  and
http://www.ovh.co.uk/products/dedicated_offers.xml ,main site is
ovh.com).

You can get a decent box for 15 euro a month and a hell of a machine
for 50/60 euros.

They also have some Cloud/VPS options, that I have not used.


Does anyone have first-hand experience with Amazon EC2?

They also look very tempting.


Best,

   titto


On 19 March 2011 10:12, Lyndon Maydwell maydw...@gmail.com wrote:

Does anyone have any Binaries that are built to run on EC2?

That would be super!

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Jason Dusek jason.du...@gmail.com  
wrote:

2010/01/31 Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de:

If all you want is standard debian or such it does'nt matter.
However I tried installing NixOS Linux and I've had lot's of
trouble until switching to linode. NixOS was up and running
within 30min then..


 How did you get NixOS on your Linode system? They don't seem to
 offer it, last I checked.

 I'm looking in to doing this with PRGMR, which has pretty good
 pricing though it's not nearly as featureful as Linode.

--
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2010-02-01 Thread Pasqualino Titto Assini
In Europe, http://www.ovh.com has quite good prices.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2010-02-01 Thread Peter Robinson
I use http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ and I'm quite satisfied. They offer
Ubuntu, Debian and CentOS.

  Peter
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2010-02-01 Thread Jason Dusek
2010/01/31 Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de:
 If all you want is standard debian or such it does'nt matter.
 However I tried installing NixOS Linux and I've had lot's of
 trouble until switching to linode. NixOS was up and running
 within 30min then..

  How did you get NixOS on your Linode system? They don't seem to
  offer it, last I checked.

  I'm looking in to doing this with PRGMR, which has pretty good
  pricing though it's not nearly as featureful as Linode.

--
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[Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2010-01-31 Thread Michael Snoyman
Hi all,

I'm working with a client right now on deploying an app. I was wondering if
anyone had some recommendations for a Haskell-friendly host. I'm inclined to
go with a VPS for this setup, but if there's reliable shared hosting, that
would do as well. This client is fairly price-sensitive, so I don't think
anything past the $20/month range to start off with. The only other
requirement for this project is PostgreSQL. As far as wants:

* Linux is preferable
* A server that isn't on everyone's spam list would be better. Of course, I
can route through an outside e-mail provider, but local would be nicer.
* Have room to grow. For now, this is a fairly small app, but the hope of
course is for it to expand.

Thanks in advance.

Michael
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2010-01-31 Thread Alexander Solla


On Jan 31, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Michael Snoyman wrote:



I'm working with a client right now on deploying an app. I was  
wondering if anyone had some recommendations for a Haskell-friendly  
host. I'm inclined to go with a VPS for this setup, but if there's  
reliable shared hosting, that would do as well. This client is  
fairly price-sensitive, so I don't think anything past the $20/month  
range to start off with. The only other requirement for this project  
is PostgreSQL. As far as wants:


I use Linode, and it seems to meet your needs as stated.  Linux of  
your choice, $20/month, and you can run any software you run.  The  
only tricky issue is that you need to pin your OS's kernel to whatever  
Linode uses -- you can't just upgrade when your OS distributor updates.


I haven't used it for any business projects yet, so I can't really  
respond to its performance/scalability/enterprise-worthiness.  I  
intend to deploy a small project there soon, but might use Amazon EC2  
instead (depending on how much RAM it turns out Happstack really  
needs...)

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2010-01-31 Thread Gregory Collins
Michael Snoyman mich...@snoyman.com writes:

 Hi all,

 I'm working with a client right now on deploying an app. I was
 wondering if anyone had some recommendations for a Haskell-friendly
 host.

I'm a happy linode customer: http://www.linode.com/

G
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2010-01-31 Thread Marc Weber
 I'm a happy linode customer: http://www.linode.com/
Me too. I tried different hosting services before. They all have there
strength. The linode shell is terrific!

If all you want is standard debian or such it does'nt matter. However I
tried installing NixOS Linux and I've had lot's of trouble until
switching to linode. NixOS was up and running within 30min then..

Marc Weber
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2010-01-31 Thread Michael Snoyman
OK, I guess the unananimous opinion in linode ;). Thanks for the input
everyone!

Michael

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de wrote:

  I'm a happy linode customer: http://www.linode.com/
 Me too. I tried different hosting services before. They all have there
 strength. The linode shell is terrific!

 If all you want is standard debian or such it does'nt matter. However I
 tried installing NixOS Linux and I've had lot's of trouble until
 switching to linode. NixOS was up and running within 30min then..

 Marc Weber
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2010-01-31 Thread MightyByte
Hi,

I'm also a happy linode customer.  However, my happstack app eats a
lot of memory.  I currently have plans to switch to prgmr.com because
their hosting plans give you much more RAM / dollar than any other
hosting company I've seen ($20 / month for a gig of RAM).

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Michael Snoyman mich...@snoyman.com wrote:
 OK, I guess the unananimous opinion in linode ;). Thanks for the input
 everyone!

 Michael

 On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de wrote:

  I'm a happy linode customer: http://www.linode.com/
 Me too. I tried different hosting services before. They all have there
 strength. The linode shell is terrific!

 If all you want is standard debian or such it does'nt matter. However I
 tried installing NixOS Linux and I've had lot's of trouble until
 switching to linode. NixOS was up and running within 30min then..

 Marc Weber
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2010-01-31 Thread Tom Tobin
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Michael Snoyman mich...@snoyman.com wrote:
 OK, I guess the unananimous opinion in linode ;). Thanks for the input
 everyone!

If it helps make your client even more comfortable: not only do I use
Linode for my personal VPS, but we use them at work to host some
fairly popular websites.  Our sysadmin absolutely loves them to death;
he's always raving about how easy our hosting is now since moving
there.  :-)
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2010-01-31 Thread Robert Wills
I use Webfaction.

http://www.webfaction.com/services/hosting

It's not a personal vps but you get ssh access and you can run any
webserver you want-- even a Haskell one:

http://wrwills.webfactional.com/2009/10/30/Haskell-on-a-Webfaction-Host

They support Postgres databases too.

It's cheaper than a vps (I'm paying $8.50 a month but you can pay as
little as $5.50), but possibly not as convenient.

-Rob

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Tom Tobin korp...@korpios.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Michael Snoyman mich...@snoyman.com wrote:
 OK, I guess the unananimous opinion in linode ;). Thanks for the input
 everyone!

 If it helps make your client even more comfortable: not only do I use
 Linode for my personal VPS, but we use them at work to host some
 fairly popular websites.  Our sysadmin absolutely loves them to death;
 he's always raving about how easy our hosting is now since moving
 there.  :-)
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone recommend a VPS?

2010-01-31 Thread Michael Snoyman
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Robert Wills wrwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use Webfaction.

 http://www.webfaction.com/services/hosting

 It's not a personal vps but you get ssh access and you can run any
 webserver you want-- even a Haskell one:

 http://wrwills.webfactional.com/2009/10/30/Haskell-on-a-Webfaction-Host

 They support Postgres databases too.

 It's cheaper than a vps (I'm paying $8.50 a month but you can pay as
 little as $5.50), but possibly not as convenient.

 -Rob

 On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Tom Tobin korp...@korpios.com wrote:
  On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Michael Snoyman mich...@snoyman.com
 wrote:
  OK, I guess the unananimous opinion in linode ;). Thanks for the input
  everyone!
 
  If it helps make your client even more comfortable: not only do I use
  Linode for my personal VPS, but we use them at work to host some
  fairly popular websites.  Our sysadmin absolutely loves them to death;
  he's always raving about how easy our hosting is now since moving
  there.  :-)


Funny, I use a similar approach for my personal sites when I host them on
nearlyfreespeech. My one complaint is that they use FreeBSD instead of
Linux; if I found a webhost that let me compile straight from my Arch/Ubuntu
box, I'd be very happy. (I'm sure they exist, but now I'm kind of addicted
to nearlyfreespeech's cheap pricing...)

Thanks for the suggestion.

Michael
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