Re: [***SPAM***] Re: [Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

2010-06-25 Thread jur

On Jun 24, 2010, at 10:41 PM, cas...@istar.ca wrote:

 Quoting Andrew Coppin andrewcop...@btinternet.com:
 
 Serguey Zefirov wrote:
 I should suggest code generation from Haskell to C#/Java and PHP.
 
 Like Barrelfish, Atom, HJScript and many others EDSLs out there.
 
 You will save yourself time, you will enjoy Haskell. Probably, you
 will have problems with management because your programs will appear
 there in their completeness very suddently. ;
 
 I would imagine a bigger problem is that machine-generated C# is probably 
 incomprehensible to humans. ;-)
 
 
 Most machine-generated code is probably incomprehensible to humans. :)
 
 What one wants is a translator back and forth, if one could understand the 
 machine-generated code.
 
Maybe you should translate to Perl. Nobody will notice it is machine-generated.

Jur


 
 
 ___
 Haskell-Cafe mailing list
 Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
 http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe


Re: [Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

2010-06-24 Thread Serguey Zefirov
2010/6/17 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
 BTW this is not meant as a fun post, I'm actually quite serious, ie. I need
 money, only way of getting it is doing Java, C# or PHP.

 So how does one get off haskell? Are there people in similar situations that
 have managed? How did you do it?

I should suggest code generation from Haskell to C#/Java and PHP.

Like Barrelfish, Atom, HJScript and many others EDSLs out there.

You will save yourself time, you will enjoy Haskell. Probably, you
will have problems with management because your programs will appear
there in their completeness very suddently. ;)
___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe


Re: [Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

2010-06-24 Thread Stephen Tetley
2010/6/24 Serguey Zefirov sergu...@gmail.com:


 I should suggest code generation from Haskell to C#/Java and PHP.

 Like Barrelfish, Atom, HJScript and many others EDSLs out there.

 You will save yourself time, you will enjoy Haskell. Probably, you
 will have problems with management because your programs will appear
 there in their completeness very suddently. ;)


You need a domain that favours multiples for code generation to be
successful, though.

Atom seems ideal, as it is generating controller code of product lines
of embedded systems; but enterprise domains typically favour code
delivered in libraries / frameworks where the components are singular,
evolving entities, possibly used across in multiple applications.
___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe


Re: [Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

2010-06-24 Thread Andrew Coppin

Serguey Zefirov wrote:

I should suggest code generation from Haskell to C#/Java and PHP.

Like Barrelfish, Atom, HJScript and many others EDSLs out there.

You will save yourself time, you will enjoy Haskell. Probably, you
will have problems with management because your programs will appear
there in their completeness very suddently. ;


I would imagine a bigger problem is that machine-generated C# is 
probably incomprehensible to humans. ;-)


___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe


Re: [Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

2010-06-24 Thread caseyh

Quoting Andrew Coppin andrewcop...@btinternet.com:


Serguey Zefirov wrote:

I should suggest code generation from Haskell to C#/Java and PHP.

Like Barrelfish, Atom, HJScript and many others EDSLs out there.

You will save yourself time, you will enjoy Haskell. Probably, you
will have problems with management because your programs will appear
there in their completeness very suddently. ;


I would imagine a bigger problem is that machine-generated C# is  
probably incomprehensible to humans. ;-)




Most machine-generated code is probably incomprehensible to humans. :)

What one wants is a translator back and forth, if one could understand  
the machine-generated code.




___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe


[Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

2010-06-17 Thread Günther Schmidt

Hi list,

I'm facing a really tough problem. About 3 years ago I stopped doing 
freelance and quite nicely paid projects in Java, PHP and C#.


Now I'm dire straits, again, and need to get back into the project 
market which seems to have picked up again, quite a lot of projects out 
there and it looks like I could ask again for decent rates. (I 
personally call them compensation because I never ever enjoyed doing 
Java etc. but the money was good.)


Anyway the problem is that I am totally reluctant to code in anything 
else but haskell. It has always been a problem to me getting up early in 
the morning, taking a train to work and coming back in the evening 
totally exhausted. But I think I could manage that again, at least for 3 
or 6 months and then my bank account will be fine again and I can take 
it easy for another year or so.


But this time all this is much harder. I really cannot see myself 
writing such huge amounts of code over and over again not doing much, 
well you know the story.


BTW this is not meant as a fun post, I'm actually quite serious, ie. I 
need money, only way of getting it is doing Java, C# or PHP.


So how does one get off haskell? Are there people in similar situations 
that have managed? How did you do it?


Günther

___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe


Re: [Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

2010-06-17 Thread Лев Никитин
Become the farmer. The life in village brings advantage for health more.

(I too am serious. :) )

2010/6/17 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
 Hi list,

 I'm facing a really tough problem. About 3 years ago I stopped doing
 freelance and quite nicely paid projects in Java, PHP and C#.

 Now I'm dire straits, again, and need to get back into the project market
 which seems to have picked up again, quite a lot of projects out there and
 it looks like I could ask again for decent rates. (I personally call them
 compensation because I never ever enjoyed doing Java etc. but the money was
 good.)

 Anyway the problem is that I am totally reluctant to code in anything else
 but haskell. It has always been a problem to me getting up early in the
 morning, taking a train to work and coming back in the evening totally
 exhausted. But I think I could manage that again, at least for 3 or 6 months
 and then my bank account will be fine again and I can take it easy for
 another year or so.

 But this time all this is much harder. I really cannot see myself writing
 such huge amounts of code over and over again not doing much, well you know
 the story.

 BTW this is not meant as a fun post, I'm actually quite serious, ie. I need
 money, only way of getting it is doing Java, C# or PHP.

 So how does one get off haskell? Are there people in similar situations that
 have managed? How did you do it?

 Günther

 ___
 Haskell-Cafe mailing list
 Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
 http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe




-- 
Никитин Лев.
n...@lab321.ru, leon.v.niki...@gmail.com
___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe


Re: [Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

2010-06-17 Thread David Virebayre
2010/6/17 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
 Anyway the problem is that I am totally reluctant to code in anything else
 but haskell. It has always been a problem to me getting up early in the

You're not alone.
___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe


Re: [Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

2010-06-17 Thread Jean-Denis Koeck
Maybe you should trying getting on Scala or Clojure projects ? Though they
aren't many of them for now :(

2010/6/17 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de

 Hi list,

 I'm facing a really tough problem. About 3 years ago I stopped doing
 freelance and quite nicely paid projects in Java, PHP and C#.

 Now I'm dire straits, again, and need to get back into the project market
 which seems to have picked up again, quite a lot of projects out there and
 it looks like I could ask again for decent rates. (I personally call them
 compensation because I never ever enjoyed doing Java etc. but the money was
 good.)

 Anyway the problem is that I am totally reluctant to code in anything else
 but haskell. It has always been a problem to me getting up early in the
 morning, taking a train to work and coming back in the evening totally
 exhausted. But I think I could manage that again, at least for 3 or 6 months
 and then my bank account will be fine again and I can take it easy for
 another year or so.

 But this time all this is much harder. I really cannot see myself writing
 such huge amounts of code over and over again not doing much, well you know
 the story.

 BTW this is not meant as a fun post, I'm actually quite serious, ie. I need
 money, only way of getting it is doing Java, C# or PHP.

 So how does one get off haskell? Are there people in similar situations
 that have managed? How did you do it?

 Günther

 ___
 Haskell-Cafe mailing list
 Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
 http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe


Re: [Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

2010-06-17 Thread David Anderson
2010/6/17 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
 Hi list,

 I'm facing a really tough problem. About 3 years ago I stopped doing
 freelance and quite nicely paid projects in Java, PHP and C#.

 Now I'm dire straits, again, and need to get back into the project market
 which seems to have picked up again, quite a lot of projects out there and
 it looks like I could ask again for decent rates. (I personally call them
 compensation because I never ever enjoyed doing Java etc. but the money was
 good.)

 Anyway the problem is that I am totally reluctant to code in anything else
 but haskell. It has always been a problem to me getting up early in the
 morning, taking a train to work and coming back in the evening totally
 exhausted. But I think I could manage that again, at least for 3 or 6 months
 and then my bank account will be fine again and I can take it easy for
 another year or so.

 But this time all this is much harder. I really cannot see myself writing
 such huge amounts of code over and over again not doing much, well you know
 the story.

 BTW this is not meant as a fun post, I'm actually quite serious, ie. I need
 money, only way of getting it is doing Java, C# or PHP.

 So how does one get off haskell? Are there people in similar situations that
 have managed? How did you do it?

Perhaps Galois is hiring? :-)

- Dave


 Günther

 ___
 Haskell-Cafe mailing list
 Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
 http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe


Re: [Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

2010-06-17 Thread Hector Guilarte
Haven't tried this, but maybe it can help you... Online freelance jobs search 
engine, I'ts supposed to be good...
 http://www.donanza.com/

Good Luck $$$,


Hector Guilarte
Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry.

-Original Message-
From: Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:55:15 
To: haskell-cafe@haskell.org
Subject: [Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

Hi list,

I'm facing a really tough problem. About 3 years ago I stopped doing 
freelance and quite nicely paid projects in Java, PHP and C#.

Now I'm dire straits, again, and need to get back into the project 
market which seems to have picked up again, quite a lot of projects out 
there and it looks like I could ask again for decent rates. (I 
personally call them compensation because I never ever enjoyed doing 
Java etc. but the money was good.)

Anyway the problem is that I am totally reluctant to code in anything 
else but haskell. It has always been a problem to me getting up early in 
the morning, taking a train to work and coming back in the evening 
totally exhausted. But I think I could manage that again, at least for 3 
or 6 months and then my bank account will be fine again and I can take 
it easy for another year or so.

But this time all this is much harder. I really cannot see myself 
writing such huge amounts of code over and over again not doing much, 
well you know the story.

BTW this is not meant as a fun post, I'm actually quite serious, ie. I 
need money, only way of getting it is doing Java, C# or PHP.

So how does one get off haskell? Are there people in similar situations 
that have managed? How did you do it?

Günther

___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe


Re: [Haskell-cafe] How does one get off haskell?

2010-06-17 Thread Günther Schmidt

Hi all,

I was afraid of that.

The tenor here is there is no way to get off haskell so either do 
woodwork or try to get a haskell job.


:(

Günther
___
Haskell-Cafe mailing list
Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org
http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe