Re: [Haskell-cafe] I don't understand how ST works
Ok, the error was: I was using Control.Monad.ST.Lazy. Importing Control.Monad.ST compiles immediately without problem. (Is this because I'm using unboxed mutable vectors?) Now, that's a little bit odd. It's clear that the strict and lazy forms of ST are different types. But unfortunately they are named the same! So actually any error message from the compiler drives you crazy, because it's refering to another type. Probably the reason to name the types with the same name is for easy interchangeability. But as we see, the types are not (always) interchangeable. Anyway, now it compiles. Thanks, Nicu Am 08.06.2012 23:15, schrieb Nicu Ionita: Hi, I created a gist with a minimal (still 111 lines) module: https://gist.github.com/2898128 I still get the errors: WhatsWrong.hs:53:5: Couldn't match type `s' with `PrimState (ST s)' `s' is a rigid type variable bound by a type expected by the context: ST s [Move] at WhatsWrong.hs:48:21 In a stmt of a 'do' block: listMoves ml In the second argument of `($)', namely `do { v - U.new maxMovesPerPos; let ml = ...; listMoves ml }' In the expression: runST $ do { v - U.new maxMovesPerPos; let ml = ...; listMoves ml } WhatsWrong.hs:65:44: Couldn't match type `s' with `PrimState (ST s)' `s' is a rigid type variable bound by the type signature for nextPhaseOnlyCapts :: GenPhase s at WhatsWrong.hs:64:1 Expected type: U.MVector (PrimState (ST s)) Move Actual type: U.MVector s Move In the return type of a call of `mlVec' In the third argument of `genCapts', namely `(mlVec ml)' Thanks, Nicu Am 08.06.2012 02:47, schrieb Silvio Frischknecht: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Now comes my question: in the impure values there is always that s. I was thinking that the whole structure should have s as a parameter: Yes data MList s = MList { mlVec :: MVector s Move, mlNextPh :: MList - ST s (Maybe (MList s)) } you probably meant: data MList s = MList { ... , mlNextPh :: Mlist s - ... } Now I'm not sure about your exact problem since the following compiles for me. import Data.Vector import Data.Vector.Mutable import Control.Monad.ST type Move = () data MList s = MList { mvVec :: MVector s Move, mlNextPh :: MList s - ST s (Maybe (MList s)) } splitMove :: MList s - ST s (Maybe (Move, MList s)) splitMove ml = do m- unsafeRead (mvVec ml) 0 undefined Something you always have to watch out for when dealing with ST is not to return something that depends on s in the last statement (the one you use runST on). In other words, if you want to return a vector you have to freeze it, so it's not mutable anymore. If you still can't figure it out paste some complete example that doesn't work. silvio -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP0Uu5AAoJEDLsP+zrbatWKFoP+wYdmAwO3aKPIibOydDwPlcu GmwWLCDoylhBsA1swskPGZTlBevFFeS0kzDMAhZ2dtR18HHf0TVLFCL6mljgQGhu YLsT8a2Y5eepPd7CC0wHD7qLH0t6ln/urRhWNnVEGryVHmsIDCBzuKBzopshaaOm 8awNeEbmZApki193r/YJ21Zsxidx4N2tSGCd712ka9Wr7l19RzBukonTy/wNCTtN 1sj54xCKap3MpnQe4L68nep6WjMovnwn5ucPWlouPP5N99/2umiEPDwX3y9moD/Q VkbYe0HzZtvSX7JJaDM/hJ2dWKHsg5CLdO/aW7Uz3HttTy0/FmvwhxaNAzkmQimw L4uakvyuw1EJuSAwB5XRfeUL6LDpka165jb8V8Iy2gjYg3aGMwf9VVmObjEAA93s nvQd+iH1lDe38cbfz8dfQdTakDVYtFNnYL+kXIF1Z7DiS25IThtS0RJRH//E+CZg MpOtW2LBfa3vwP9NqVryGTAhWFtWHXOtpXfCXOa0+pQNn1zHkTXtIDJ4XoT5qkmd 6GDwFyGfkPZO01qNMoXwj/wBz/eaSa4Vj0qb73jNdNH2MbJ13Ws9Jlp4jwcxbG4a m/fYV0/6LmPEiV8H9+4cG8nhUP2ie2DJqo8tzdjiaZ7C7TEym9jd6gsljMQ8qiAG Q7aAmMed/DBlY/Anh2xY =X9CL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] I don't understand how ST works
Oh my god, that was it? I looked at your code for half an hour, and I've never thought about that... That is really misleading. So vector forces you to use strict ST? (That's right: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/primitive/0.4.1/doc/html/Control-Monad-Primitive.html#t:PrimMonadshows that only strict ST has a MonadPrime instance) It's another plea against the sames names/interface in different modules pattern, that vector, ST, State, ByteString suffer from. This (the error messages being misleading), as well as the document being hard to read (because you never know which type is mentionned, you have to see to check at the module from which the type comes. And even with that, it's just a matter of convention: for instance Control.Monad.State exports the lazy version, but Control.Monad.ST exports the strict one (so that the default version is closer to IO's behaviour). I really prefer the approach taken by repa 3: one data family, generic functions for every flavour and some specific functions for each flavour. It's not perfect (not standard for instance), but I think such an approach should be priviledged in the future, it makes things much clearer, and enable you to choose between working generically (on 'Stuff a' types) or specifically (either only on 'Stuff Strict' or only on 'Stuff Lazy'). I would be interested to know if someone has other ideas in that respect in mind. 2012/6/9 Nicu Ionita nicu.ion...@acons.at Ok, the error was: I was using Control.Monad.ST.Lazy. Importing Control.Monad.ST compiles immediately without problem. (Is this because I'm using unboxed mutable vectors?) Now, that's a little bit odd. It's clear that the strict and lazy forms of ST are different types. But unfortunately they are named the same! So actually any error message from the compiler drives you crazy, because it's refering to another type. Probably the reason to name the types with the same name is for easy interchangeability. But as we see, the types are not (always) interchangeable. Anyway, now it compiles. Thanks, Nicu Am 08.06.2012 23:15, schrieb Nicu Ionita: Hi, I created a gist with a minimal (still 111 lines) module: https://gist.github.com/**2898128 https://gist.github.com/2898128 I still get the errors: WhatsWrong.hs:53:5: Couldn't match type `s' with `PrimState (ST s)' `s' is a rigid type variable bound by a type expected by the context: ST s [Move] at WhatsWrong.hs:48:21 In a stmt of a 'do' block: listMoves ml In the second argument of `($)', namely `do { v - U.new maxMovesPerPos; let ml = ...; listMoves ml }' In the expression: runST $ do { v - U.new maxMovesPerPos; let ml = ...; listMoves ml } WhatsWrong.hs:65:44: Couldn't match type `s' with `PrimState (ST s)' `s' is a rigid type variable bound by the type signature for nextPhaseOnlyCapts :: GenPhase s at WhatsWrong.hs:64:1 Expected type: U.MVector (PrimState (ST s)) Move Actual type: U.MVector s Move In the return type of a call of `mlVec' In the third argument of `genCapts', namely `(mlVec ml)' Thanks, Nicu Am 08.06.2012 02:47, schrieb Silvio Frischknecht: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Now comes my question: in the impure values there is always that s. I was thinking that the whole structure should have s as a parameter: Yes data MList s = MList { mlVec :: MVector s Move, mlNextPh :: MList - ST s (Maybe (MList s)) } you probably meant: data MList s = MList { ... , mlNextPh :: Mlist s - ... } Now I'm not sure about your exact problem since the following compiles for me. import Data.Vector import Data.Vector.Mutable import Control.Monad.ST type Move = () data MList s = MList { mvVec :: MVector s Move, mlNextPh :: MList s - ST s (Maybe (MList s)) } splitMove :: MList s - ST s (Maybe (Move, MList s)) splitMove ml = do m- unsafeRead (mvVec ml) 0 undefined Something you always have to watch out for when dealing with ST is not to return something that depends on s in the last statement (the one you use runST on). In other words, if you want to return a vector you have to freeze it, so it's not mutable anymore. If you still can't figure it out paste some complete example that doesn't work. silvio -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP0Uu5AAoJEDLsP+**zrbatWKFoP+**wYdmAwO3aKPIibOydDwPlcu GmwWLCDoylhBsA1swskPGZTlBevFFe**S0kzDMAhZ2dtR18HHf0TVLFCL6mljg**QGhu YLsT8a2Y5eepPd7CC0wHD7qLH0t6ln**/**urRhWNnVEGryVHmsIDCBzuKBzopsha**aOm 8awNeEbmZApki193r/**YJ21Zsxidx4N2tSGCd712ka9Wr7l19**RzBukonTy/wNCTtN 1sj54xCKap3MpnQe4L68nep6WjMovn**wn5ucPWlouPP5N99/**2umiEPDwX3y9moD/Q
Re: [Haskell-cafe] I don't understand how ST works
Hi, I created a gist with a minimal (still 111 lines) module: https://gist.github.com/2898128 I still get the errors: WhatsWrong.hs:53:5: Couldn't match type `s' with `PrimState (ST s)' `s' is a rigid type variable bound by a type expected by the context: ST s [Move] at WhatsWrong.hs:48:21 In a stmt of a 'do' block: listMoves ml In the second argument of `($)', namely `do { v - U.new maxMovesPerPos; let ml = ...; listMoves ml }' In the expression: runST $ do { v - U.new maxMovesPerPos; let ml = ...; listMoves ml } WhatsWrong.hs:65:44: Couldn't match type `s' with `PrimState (ST s)' `s' is a rigid type variable bound by the type signature for nextPhaseOnlyCapts :: GenPhase s at WhatsWrong.hs:64:1 Expected type: U.MVector (PrimState (ST s)) Move Actual type: U.MVector s Move In the return type of a call of `mlVec' In the third argument of `genCapts', namely `(mlVec ml)' Thanks, Nicu Am 08.06.2012 02:47, schrieb Silvio Frischknecht: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Now comes my question: in the impure values there is always that s. I was thinking that the whole structure should have s as a parameter: Yes data MList s = MList { mlVec :: MVector s Move, mlNextPh :: MList - ST s (Maybe (MList s)) } you probably meant: data MList s = MList { ... , mlNextPh :: Mlist s - ... } Now I'm not sure about your exact problem since the following compiles for me. import Data.Vector import Data.Vector.Mutable import Control.Monad.ST type Move = () data MList s = MList { mvVec :: MVector s Move, mlNextPh :: MList s - ST s (Maybe (MList s)) } splitMove :: MList s - ST s (Maybe (Move, MList s)) splitMove ml = do m- unsafeRead (mvVec ml) 0 undefined Something you always have to watch out for when dealing with ST is not to return something that depends on s in the last statement (the one you use runST on). In other words, if you want to return a vector you have to freeze it, so it's not mutable anymore. If you still can't figure it out paste some complete example that doesn't work. silvio -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP0Uu5AAoJEDLsP+zrbatWKFoP+wYdmAwO3aKPIibOydDwPlcu GmwWLCDoylhBsA1swskPGZTlBevFFeS0kzDMAhZ2dtR18HHf0TVLFCL6mljgQGhu YLsT8a2Y5eepPd7CC0wHD7qLH0t6ln/urRhWNnVEGryVHmsIDCBzuKBzopshaaOm 8awNeEbmZApki193r/YJ21Zsxidx4N2tSGCd712ka9Wr7l19RzBukonTy/wNCTtN 1sj54xCKap3MpnQe4L68nep6WjMovnwn5ucPWlouPP5N99/2umiEPDwX3y9moD/Q VkbYe0HzZtvSX7JJaDM/hJ2dWKHsg5CLdO/aW7Uz3HttTy0/FmvwhxaNAzkmQimw L4uakvyuw1EJuSAwB5XRfeUL6LDpka165jb8V8Iy2gjYg3aGMwf9VVmObjEAA93s nvQd+iH1lDe38cbfz8dfQdTakDVYtFNnYL+kXIF1Z7DiS25IThtS0RJRH//E+CZg MpOtW2LBfa3vwP9NqVryGTAhWFtWHXOtpXfCXOa0+pQNn1zHkTXtIDJ4XoT5qkmd 6GDwFyGfkPZO01qNMoXwj/wBz/eaSa4Vj0qb73jNdNH2MbJ13Ws9Jlp4jwcxbG4a m/fYV0/6LmPEiV8H9+4cG8nhUP2ie2DJqo8tzdjiaZ7C7TEym9jd6gsljMQ8qiAG Q7aAmMed/DBlY/Anh2xY =X9CL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] I don't understand how ST works
Hi, After trying the whole afternoon to make a program work using ST and mutable vectors, I must give up and ask for some help. I have a pure function which generates a list of moves. But the whole thing should live in the ST monad, so: genMoves ... = runST $ do ... Now, as I understand, I have a private universe (under runST) in which I can run impure code, from which nothing escapes to the outside. Now in that universe I prepare succesively (and use later) a data structure which contains pure and impure values, for example: data MList = MList { mlVec :: MVector s Move, mlNextPh :: MList - ST s (Maybe MList) } Now comes my question: in the impure values there is always that s. I was thinking that the whole structure should have s as a parameter: data MList s = MList { mlVec :: MVector s Move, mlNextPh :: MList - ST s (Maybe (MList s)) } but then, when I define functions like: splitMove :: MList s - ST s (Maybe (Move, MList s)) splitMove ml = do m - unsafeRead (mvVec ml) 0 ... I get this message: Moves\MoveList.hs:217:28: Couldn't match type `s' with `PrimState (ST s)' `s' is a rigid type variable bound by the type signature for splitMove :: MList s - ST s (Maybe (Move, MList s)) at Moves\MoveList.hs:210:1 Expected type: U.MVector (PrimState (ST s)) Move Actual type: U.MVector s Move In the return type of a call of `mlVec' In the first argument of `M.unsafeRead', namely `(mlVec ml)' which really doesn't make sense, as the package primitive defines the instance: instance PrimMonad (ST s) where type PrimState (ST s) = s primitive = ST internal (ST p) = p Should I do the structure agnostic of that s-state? (forall s. ...) This seems really unintuitive to me... Anybody some hint? Thanks, Nicu ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] I don't understand how ST works
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Now comes my question: in the impure values there is always that s. I was thinking that the whole structure should have s as a parameter: Yes data MList s = MList { mlVec :: MVector s Move, mlNextPh :: MList - ST s (Maybe (MList s)) } you probably meant: data MList s = MList { ... , mlNextPh :: Mlist s - ... } Now I'm not sure about your exact problem since the following compiles for me. import Data.Vector import Data.Vector.Mutable import Control.Monad.ST type Move = () data MList s = MList { mvVec :: MVector s Move, mlNextPh :: MList s - ST s (Maybe (MList s)) } splitMove :: MList s - ST s (Maybe (Move, MList s)) splitMove ml = do m - unsafeRead (mvVec ml) 0 undefined Something you always have to watch out for when dealing with ST is not to return something that depends on s in the last statement (the one you use runST on). In other words, if you want to return a vector you have to freeze it, so it's not mutable anymore. If you still can't figure it out paste some complete example that doesn't work. silvio -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP0Uu5AAoJEDLsP+zrbatWKFoP+wYdmAwO3aKPIibOydDwPlcu GmwWLCDoylhBsA1swskPGZTlBevFFeS0kzDMAhZ2dtR18HHf0TVLFCL6mljgQGhu YLsT8a2Y5eepPd7CC0wHD7qLH0t6ln/urRhWNnVEGryVHmsIDCBzuKBzopshaaOm 8awNeEbmZApki193r/YJ21Zsxidx4N2tSGCd712ka9Wr7l19RzBukonTy/wNCTtN 1sj54xCKap3MpnQe4L68nep6WjMovnwn5ucPWlouPP5N99/2umiEPDwX3y9moD/Q VkbYe0HzZtvSX7JJaDM/hJ2dWKHsg5CLdO/aW7Uz3HttTy0/FmvwhxaNAzkmQimw L4uakvyuw1EJuSAwB5XRfeUL6LDpka165jb8V8Iy2gjYg3aGMwf9VVmObjEAA93s nvQd+iH1lDe38cbfz8dfQdTakDVYtFNnYL+kXIF1Z7DiS25IThtS0RJRH//E+CZg MpOtW2LBfa3vwP9NqVryGTAhWFtWHXOtpXfCXOa0+pQNn1zHkTXtIDJ4XoT5qkmd 6GDwFyGfkPZO01qNMoXwj/wBz/eaSa4Vj0qb73jNdNH2MbJ13Ws9Jlp4jwcxbG4a m/fYV0/6LmPEiV8H9+4cG8nhUP2ie2DJqo8tzdjiaZ7C7TEym9jd6gsljMQ8qiAG Q7aAmMed/DBlY/Anh2xY =X9CL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe