Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in typed relational algebra library?

2012-07-18 Thread Jay Sulzberger



On Tue, 10 Jul 2012, o...@okmij.org wrote:




And yes to first order predicate calculus too!


Just two weeks ago Chung-chieh Shan and I were explaining at NASSLLI
the embedding in Haskell of the higher-order predicate logic with two
base types (so-called Ty2). The embedding supports type-safe
simplification of formulas (which was really needed for our
applications). The embedding is extensible: you can add models and
more constants.

http://okmij.org/ftp/gengo/NASSLLI10/course.html#semantics


Oleg, thank you.  Which article should I read first?

oo--JS.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in typed relational algebra library?

2012-07-18 Thread Jay Sulzberger



On Wed, 18 Jul 2012, Jay Sulzberger wrote:




On Tue, 10 Jul 2012, o...@okmij.org wrote:




And yes to first order predicate calculus too!


Just two weeks ago Chung-chieh Shan and I were explaining at NASSLLI
the embedding in Haskell of the higher-order predicate logic with two
base types (so-called Ty2). The embedding supports type-safe
simplification of formulas (which was really needed for our
applications). The embedding is extensible: you can add models and
more constants.

http://okmij.org/ftp/gengo/NASSLLI10/course.html#semantics


Oleg, thank you.  Which article should I read first?

oo--JS.


Ah, I see that the files are Haskell source files, and not Postscript files.

The order is clear.

oo--JS.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in typed relational algebra library?

2012-07-10 Thread oleg

 And yes to first order predicate calculus too!

Just two weeks ago Chung-chieh Shan and I were explaining at NASSLLI
the embedding in Haskell of the higher-order predicate logic with two
base types (so-called Ty2). The embedding supports type-safe
simplification of formulas (which was really needed for our
applications). The embedding is extensible: you can add models and
more constants.

http://okmij.org/ftp/gengo/NASSLLI10/course.html#semantics


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in typed relational algebra library?

2012-07-08 Thread Rune Harder Bak
Yes, that would be very nice!

Type-checked queries really is a must, but I´ve found HaskellDB too
cumbersome to work with.

-Rune

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Paul Visschers m...@paulvisschers.net wrote:
 Hello,

 I've been out of the Haskell game for a bit, but now I'm back. A couple of
 years ago I made a small library that implements relational algebra with
 types so that malformed queries and other operations are caught at compile
 time. It is heavily based off of the internals of HaskellDB (see
 http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/haskelldb/2.1.1/doc/html/Database-HaskellDB-PrimQuery.html),
 but types so that it can actually be used directly instead of having to use
 HaskellDB's query monad. Besides the joy of using relational algebra
 directly in your code, this also means that you can make query-optimizing
 code in a type-safe way, you can subquery results returned by the database
 directly without accessing the database again and you have more options when
 converting from relation algebra to SQL or another query language. The
 library isn't quite ready for release, but I might want to work on it a bit
 and then release it. Is anyone interested in such a library?

 Paul Visschers

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in typed relational algebra library?

2012-07-08 Thread dag.odenh...@gmail.com
Is this anything like the hssqlppp package?
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[Haskell-cafe] Interest in typed relational algebra library?

2012-07-07 Thread Paul Visschers
Hello,

I've been out of the Haskell game for a bit, but now I'm back. A couple of
years ago I made a small library that implements relational algebra with
types so that malformed queries and other operations are caught at compile
time. It is heavily based off of the internals of HaskellDB (see
http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/haskelldb/2.1.1/doc/html/Database-HaskellDB-PrimQuery.html),
but types so that it can actually be used directly instead of having to use
HaskellDB's query monad. Besides the joy of using relational algebra
directly in your code, this also means that you can make query-optimizing
code in a type-safe way, you can subquery results returned by the database
directly without accessing the database again and you have more options
when converting from relation algebra to SQL or another query language. The
library isn't quite ready for release, but I might want to work on it a bit
and then release it. Is anyone interested in such a library?

Paul Visschers
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in typed relational algebra library?

2012-07-07 Thread Ertugrul Söylemez
Paul Visschers m...@paulvisschers.net wrote:

 I've been out of the Haskell game for a bit, but now I'm back. A
 couple of years ago I made a small library that implements relational
 algebra with types so that malformed queries and other operations are
 caught at compile time. It is heavily based off of the internals of
 HaskellDB (see
 http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/haskelldb/2.1.1/doc/html/Database-HaskellDB-PrimQuery.html),
 but types so that it can actually be used directly instead of having
 to use HaskellDB's query monad. Besides the joy of using relational
 algebra directly in your code, this also means that you can make
 query-optimizing code in a type-safe way, you can subquery results
 returned by the database directly without accessing the database again
 and you have more options when converting from relation algebra to SQL
 or another query language. The library isn't quite ready for release,
 but I might want to work on it a bit and then release it. Is anyone
 interested in such a library?

As someone who enjoyed the HaskellDB library I'm very interested in such
a library, even though nowadays I mostly use acid-state.


Greets,
Ertugrul

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(not to be or to be and ... that is the list monad.


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in typed relational algebra library?

2012-07-07 Thread Carter Schonwald
I'd be interested in at least playing with it.

On Saturday, July 7, 2012, Paul Visschers wrote:

 Hello,

 I've been out of the Haskell game for a bit, but now I'm back. A couple of
 years ago I made a small library that implements relational algebra with
 types so that malformed queries and other operations are caught at compile
 time. It is heavily based off of the internals of HaskellDB (see
 http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/haskelldb/2.1.1/doc/html/Database-HaskellDB-PrimQuery.html),
 but types so that it can actually be used directly instead of having to use
 HaskellDB's query monad. Besides the joy of using relational algebra
 directly in your code, this also means that you can make query-optimizing
 code in a type-safe way, you can subquery results returned by the database
 directly without accessing the database again and you have more options
 when converting from relation algebra to SQL or another query language. The
 library isn't quite ready for release, but I might want to work on it a bit
 and then release it. Is anyone interested in such a library?

 Paul Visschers

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in typed relational algebra library?

2012-07-07 Thread Jay Sulzberger



On Sat, 7 Jul 2012, Paul Visschers m...@paulvisschers.net wrote:


Hello,

I've been out of the Haskell game for a bit, but now I'm back. A couple of
years ago I made a small library that implements relational algebra with
types so that malformed queries and other operations are caught at compile
time. It is heavily based off of the internals of HaskellDB (see
http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/haskelldb/2.1.1/doc/html/Database-HaskellDB-PrimQuery.html),
but types so that it can actually be used directly instead of having to use
HaskellDB's query monad. Besides the joy of using relational algebra
directly in your code, this also means that you can make query-optimizing
code in a type-safe way, you can subquery results returned by the database
directly without accessing the database again and you have more options
when converting from relation algebra to SQL or another query language. The
library isn't quite ready for release, but I might want to work on it a bit
and then release it. Is anyone interested in such a library?

Paul Visschers


Yes!

And yes to first order predicate calculus too!

oo--JS.


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