Re: [Haskell-cafe] Network.Curl and posting XML data
Hi Erik, I am not aware of any SSL implementation in haskell either (even though I think it should go not into HTTP but into Crypto (which is a neat piece of code, but needs a lot more work)). I can think of two quick solutions if you need your Haskell code to use an SSL link: run stunnel.org and make your application connect to that, or write a Haskell wrapper around openssl.org. As for the latter, I don't know your requirements and resources so this may be possible, but from what i've seen of openssl i wouldn't want to have to do that. good luck, matthias On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 02:38:05PM +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: To: haskell-cafe@haskell.org From: Erik de Castro Lopo mle...@mega-nerd.com Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:38:05 +1100 Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Network.Curl and posting XML data Dmitry Olshansky wrote: Hi, Erik, Did you try Network.HTTP? Is it not enough? Apparently not. Now I need to do a post to a HTTPS server and Network.HTTP does not seem to support HTTPS. Is that really right? Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Network.Curl and posting XML data
mf-hcafe-15c311...@etc-network.de wrote: I am not aware of any SSL implementation in haskell either (even I really find this rather surprising. Ocaml has a very decent wrapper around Openssl that works rather well so it can't be that hard. though I think it should go not into HTTP but into Crypto (which is a neat piece of code, but needs a lot more work)). But why shouldn't it should go into Network.HTTP? All I want to do is a HTTP POST of text/xml data to a HTTPS server and retrieve the text/xml data response and the HTTP response code. Whether that URL is HTTP vs HTTPS shouldn't matter. With a sane API I should just be able to change from a HTTP url to a HTTPS url and have it JustWork (tm). To have to use a different library depending on whether I'm doing http vs https is just horrible. I can think of two quick solutions if you need your Haskell code to use an SSL link: run stunnel.org Sorry, thats way too cludgy for my application. and make your application connect to that, or write a Haskell wrapper around openssl.org. I've used openssl directly from C and C++ so I know its doable, but I consider openssl a real blemish on the FOSS world. There is however this: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/HsOpenSSL/0.6.5/doc/html/OpenSSL-Session.html Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Network.Curl and posting XML data
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Erik de Castro Lopo mle...@mega-nerd.com wrote: mf-hcafe-15c311...@etc-network.de wrote: I am not aware of any SSL implementation in haskell either (even I really find this rather surprising. Ocaml has a very decent wrapper around Openssl that works rather well so it can't be that hard. though I think it should go not into HTTP but into Crypto (which is a neat piece of code, but needs a lot more work)). But why shouldn't it should go into Network.HTTP? All I want to do is a HTTP POST of text/xml data to a HTTPS server and retrieve the text/xml data response and the HTTP response code. Whether that URL is HTTP vs HTTPS shouldn't matter. With a sane API I should just be able to change from a HTTP url to a HTTPS url and have it JustWork (tm). To have to use a different library depending on whether I'm doing http vs https is just horrible. There is more to SSL than securing transport, as I'm sure you know, arguably the functions that deal with HTTPS should be in Network.HTTP, but all the crypto and cert handling (including verification/checking of attributes of certs) should probably be housed somewhere else. /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Network.Curl and posting XML data
I stand corrected. The answer was 'cabal install HsOpenSSL'. On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 09:37:38PM +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: To: haskell-cafe@haskell.org From: Erik de Castro Lopo mle...@mega-nerd.com Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:37:38 +1100 Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Network.Curl and posting XML data mf-hcafe-15c311...@etc-network.de wrote: I am not aware of any SSL implementation in haskell either (even I really find this rather surprising. Ocaml has a very decent wrapper around Openssl that works rather well so it can't be that hard. Does this mean something that has been done in Ocaml can't be tedious and/or difficult? I'm just saying that openssl has a very complex (and IMHO not very efficient) API, and that I am not at all certain whether writing a wrapper is better for your project than adding the functionality you need to Crypto. But I may be wrong. though I think it should go not into HTTP but into Crypto (which is a neat piece of code, but needs a lot more work)). But why shouldn't it should go into Network.HTTP? All I want to do is a HTTP POST of text/xml data to a HTTPS server and retrieve the text/xml data response and the HTTP response code. Whether that URL is HTTP vs HTTPS shouldn't matter. With a sane API I should just be able to change from a HTTP url to a HTTPS url and have it JustWork (tm). To have to use a different library depending on whether I'm doing http vs https is just horrible. As Magnus has pointed out (thanks), that's not what I mean. I am just saying that hacking SSL into an HTTP library is wrong, since SSL is something different. For instance, it is also commonly used for POP, IMAP, SMTP, and generic TCP tunneling. I can think of two quick solutions if you need your Haskell code to use an SSL link: run stunnel.org Sorry, thats way too cludgy for my application. and make your application connect to that, or write a Haskell wrapper around openssl.org. I've used openssl directly from C and C++ so I know its doable, but I consider openssl a real blemish on the FOSS world. agreed! There is however this: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/HsOpenSSL/0.6.5/doc/html/OpenSSL-Session.html I really should look at hackage next time I am about to claim something doesn't exist. I just assumed you already had. :) Anyway, until somebody finds the time to put all these little related libraries together, this is probably what you want to use. cheers, Matthias ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Network.Curl and posting XML data
Dmitry Olshansky wrote: Hi, Erik, Did you try Network.HTTP? Is it not enough? Apparently not. Now I need to do a post to a HTTPS server and Network.HTTP does not seem to support HTTPS. Is that really right? Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] Network.Curl and posting XML data
Hi all, I need to do a HTTP post of XML data (Content-type == text/xml) to a HTTP (eventually HTTPS) server and to retrieve both the response code and some returned XML data. I have had an extensive read of the haskell-curl docs: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/curl/1.3.5/doc/html/Network-Curl.html as well as playing around with some code, but haskell-curl doesn't seem to support this. I've tried curlPost which along with not returning a response also insists on encoding my XML data as application/x-www-form-urlencoded which simply doesn't work. Anyone ben able to get something like this to work? Are there any alternatives to haskell-curl which will work for my application? Cheers, Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Network.Curl and posting XML data
Hi, Erik, Did you try Network.HTTP? Is it not enough? 2009/8/12 Erik de Castro Lopo mle...@mega-nerd.com mle%2...@mega-nerd.com Hi all, I need to do a HTTP post of XML data (Content-type == text/xml) to a HTTP (eventually HTTPS) server and to retrieve both the response code and some returned XML data. I have had an extensive read of the haskell-curl docs: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/curl/1.3.5/doc/html/Network-Curl.html as well as playing around with some code, but haskell-curl doesn't seem to support this. I've tried curlPost which along with not returning a response also insists on encoding my XML data as application/x-www-form-urlencoded which simply doesn't work. Anyone ben able to get something like this to work? Are there any alternatives to haskell-curl which will work for my application? Cheers, Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Network.Curl and posting XML data
Dmitry Olshansky wrote: Did you try Network.HTTP? Is it not enough? I thought Network.HTTP was being deprecated and that Network.Curl was supposed to replace it. Network.HTTP certainly looks like it can do it. Thanks, Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Network.Curl and posting XML data
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: I thought Network.HTTP was being deprecated and that Network.Curl was supposed to replace it. Cale on IRC pointed out that Network.Curl does more than just HTTP and that Network.HTTP allows more control than Network.Curl. Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
