[Haskell-cafe] Problems with square root...

2005-12-21 Thread Daniel Carrera

Hey,

The sqrt function is not doing what I want. This is what I want:

round sqrt(2)

The problem is that sqrt() returns a Floating value and round wants a 
ReacFrac:

--//--
*Main round sqrt(2)
interactive:1:0:
No instances for (RealFrac (a - a), Integral (t - a1))
  arising from use of `round' at interactive:1:0-4
Probable fix:
  add an instance declaration for (RealFrac (a - a), Integral (t 
- a1))

In the definition of `it': it = round sqrt (2)
*Main
--//--

I'm trying to figure out how to turn a Float into a RealFrac so I can 
pass it to 'round'. Any ideas?


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Problems with square root...

2005-12-21 Thread Daniel Carrera

Daniel Carrera wrote:

Hey,

The sqrt function is not doing what I want. This is what I want:

round sqrt(2)


Sigh... never fails. Spend an hour trying to solve a problem, and a 
minute after you write to the list you find the solution. I need 
brackets around sqrt. I'm surprised though. I don't understand why it 
dosn't work without brackets.


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Problems with square root...

2005-12-21 Thread Radu Grigore
On 12/21/05, Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  round sqrt(2)
 I don't understand why it dosn't work without brackets.

Function application is left associative in Haskell.


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Problems with square root...

2005-12-21 Thread Jon Fairbairn
On 2005-12-21 at 18:10GMT Daniel Carrera wrote:
 Daniel Carrera wrote:
  Hey,
  
  The sqrt function is not doing what I want. This is what I want:
  
  round sqrt(2)
 
 Sigh... never fails. Spend an hour trying to solve a problem, and a 
 minute after you write to the list you find the solution. I need 
 brackets around sqrt. I'm surprised though. I don't understand why it 
 dosn't work without brackets.

Elementary syntax. Function application needs no parentheses
and associates left, so

   sqrt 2

is fine, and what you wrote means

  (round sqrt) 2

whereas what you want is

   round (sqrt 2)


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Problems with square root...

2005-12-21 Thread Hal Daume III
 Sigh... never fails. Spend an hour trying to solve a problem, and a 
 minute after you write to the list you find the solution. I need 
 brackets around sqrt. I'm surprised though. I don't understand why it 
 dosn't work without brackets.

because x y z parses as (x y) z, so round sqrt 2 parses as (round 
sqrt) 2 and round sqrt doesn't make sense.  x(y) doesn't mean 
necessarily apply y to x as it does in C.  parens only are used as they 
are in math to separate stuff.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Problems with square root...

2005-12-21 Thread Daniel Carrera

Radu Grigore wrote:

I don't understand why it dosn't work without brackets.


Function application is left associative in Haskell.


Ah. I implicitly assumed right-association (it works in Perl ;) )

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Problems with square root...

2005-12-21 Thread Tomasz Zielonka
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 06:10:56PM +, Daniel Carrera wrote:
 Daniel Carrera wrote:
 Hey,
 
 The sqrt function is not doing what I want. This is what I want:
 
 round sqrt(2)
 
 Sigh... never fails. Spend an hour trying to solve a problem, and a 
 minute after you write to the list you find the solution. I need 
 brackets around sqrt. I'm surprised though. I don't understand why it 
 dosn't work without brackets.

In Haskell parentheses are not part of function call syntax, unlike
many languages like C, Pascal or Java. The role of parentheses in
expressions is only for grouping and disambiguation. What you typed is
actually equivalent to

round sqrt 2

which in turn is equivalent to

((round sqrt) 2)

because function application is left-associative.

Best regards
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Problems with square root...

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Goldman
nitpicky detail:

() - Parenthesis
{} - Braces
[] - Brackets

Sorry to be pedantic, but using the wrong terminology confuses me and
I'm sure others as well.

On 12/21/05, Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Daniel Carrera wrote:
  Hey,
 
  The sqrt function is not doing what I want. This is what I want:
 
  round sqrt(2)

 Sigh... never fails. Spend an hour trying to solve a problem, and a
 minute after you write to the list you find the solution. I need
 brackets around sqrt. I'm surprised though. I don't understand why it
 dosn't work without brackets.

 Daniel.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Problems with square root...

2005-12-21 Thread Jared Updike
MG () - Parenthesis
MG {} - Braces
MG [] - Brackets
MG Sorry to be pedantic, but using the wrong terminology confuses me and
MG I'm sure others as well.

This is true for Haskell, but Daniel is correct if he is calling ()
Brackets because they are, in British English, right? (Just like '.'
is a 'period' in US, but it is a 'full stop' in UK.). Of course,
English /= Haskell so in Haskell I guess they are called Parenthesized
Expressions (in the Haskell report
http://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/exps.html).

To be extra pedantic, I would call {} Curly Braces (or Curly Brackets,
or squiggly brackets, or squiggles, or ... just use layout and
whitespace!) and I would call [] Square Brackets. Then no one gets
confused.

Cheerio,
  Jared

P.S. IANAA = I am an American, so I could very well be wrong about
British English!

 On 12/21/05, Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Daniel Carrera wrote:
   Hey,
  
   The sqrt function is not doing what I want. This is what I want:
  
   round sqrt(2)
 
  Sigh... never fails. Spend an hour trying to solve a problem, and a
  minute after you write to the list you find the solution. I need
  brackets around sqrt. I'm surprised though. I don't understand why it
  dosn't work without brackets.
 
  Daniel.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Problems with square root...

2005-12-21 Thread Daniel Carrera

Mark Goldman wrote:

nitpicky detail:

() - Parenthesis
{} - Braces
[] - Brackets

Sorry to be pedantic, but using the wrong terminology confuses me and
I'm sure others as well.


Being pedantic can be fun :)

The Macquarie Dictionary, which is the official dictionary in Australia, 
says that () are brackets. It says that they are also called 
parentheses or a round bracket, if you need to distinguish between 
them and square brackets [], curly brackets {}, or angle brackets , 
and the definition for parenthesis is the upright brackets ().


Also, I believe, UK English (and International English) uses the term 
brackets that way, but I'd have to check online to make sure; I don't 
have a UK dictionary on me right this minute.


Cheers,
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