Re: [Haskell-cafe] performance difference for binary-0.4.3.1 with ghc-6.8.3 and ghc-6.10

2008-11-07 Thread Don Stewart
jwlato:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Alexander Dunlap
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:36 AM, John Lato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I was experimenting with using ghc-6.10.0.20081007 on a project, and
> >> it seems that binary-0.4.3.1 has markedly worse performance in certain
> >> cases.  With the following simple test:
> >>
> >>> import qualified Data.ByteString.Lazy as L
> >>> import Data.Binary
> >>> import Data.Binary.Get
> >>> import Control.Monad
> >>>
> >>> main :: IO ()
> >>> main = do
> >>> b <- L.readFile "some_binary_file"
> >>> putStrLn $ show $ runGet getter b
> >>
> >>> getter :: Get [Word16]
> >>> getter = replicateM 100 getWord16le
> >>
> >> running this program compiled with ghc-6.10 takes about 4 times as
> >> long (and consumes much more memory) as when compiled with ghc-6.8.3.
> >> The extra time appears to be proportional to the number of elements
> >> processed in the Get.  Running the programs with -hT shows a clear
> >> memory difference, which I think is the source of the problem.  I've
> >> placed pdfs of that output at https://webspace.utexas.edu/latojw/data/
> >>
> >> The difference seems to manifest itself only when the elements are
> >> actually processed; changing "show $ runGet " to "show $ length $
> >> runGet " is slightly faster in 6.10.
> >>
> >> I was working on an Intel Mac with OS 10.4, binary-0.4.3.1, and
> >> bytestring-0.9.1.4.  Can anyone confirm this, or suggest what might be
> >> the difference?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> John Lato
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> >
> > With GHC 6.8.2:
> >
> > test: too few bytes. Failed reading at byte position 1613914
> >
> > real0m27.573s
> > user0m12.917s
> > sys 0m0.087s
> >
> > With GHC 6.11.20081003:
> >
> > test: too few bytes. Failed reading at byte position 1613914
> >
> > real0m21.528s
> > user0m14.759s
> > sys 0m0.135s
> >
> > I'm not using the exact same versions as you are, but I seem to be
> > getting different results.
> >
> 
> Hi Alexander,
> 
> Thanks for trying this out.  Based on your error, I'd guess that the
> file isn't large enough to read all the requested data.  In my case,
> it was about 70MB.  You could try reading from /dev/random, or rather
> than reading from a file, use something like
> 
> >> test_pure = let b = Data.ByteString.Lazy.repeat 1 in putStrLn $ show $ 
> >> runGet getter b
> 
> I haven't tried a pure version myself, so I don't know what to expect
> from it.  Something to do tonight...
> 

I can reproduce the slowdown with ghc 6.10 in the binary benchmark
suite.  Investigating.

-- Don
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] performance difference for binary-0.4.3.1 with ghc-6.8.3 and ghc-6.10

2008-10-29 Thread Don Stewart
jwlato:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Don Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > jwlato:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I was experimenting with using ghc-6.10.0.20081007 on a project, and
> >> it seems that binary-0.4.3.1 has markedly worse performance in certain
> >> cases.  With the following simple test:
> >>
> >> > import qualified Data.ByteString.Lazy as L
> >> > import Data.Binary
> >> > import Data.Binary.Get
> >> > import Control.Monad
> >> >
> >> > main :: IO ()
> >> > main = do
> >> > b <- L.readFile "some_binary_file"
> >> > putStrLn $ show $ runGet getter b
> >>
> >> > getter :: Get [Word16]
> >> > getter = replicateM 100 getWord16le
> >>
> >> running this program compiled with ghc-6.10 takes about 4 times as
> >> long (and consumes much more memory) as when compiled with ghc-6.8.3.
> >> The extra time appears to be proportional to the number of elements
> >> processed in the Get.  Running the programs with -hT shows a clear
> >> memory difference, which I think is the source of the problem.  I've
> >> placed pdfs of that output at https://webspace.utexas.edu/latojw/data/
> >>
> >> The difference seems to manifest itself only when the elements are
> >> actually processed; changing "show $ runGet " to "show $ length $
> >> runGet " is slightly faster in 6.10.
> >>
> >> I was working on an Intel Mac with OS 10.4, binary-0.4.3.1, and
> >> bytestring-0.9.1.4.  Can anyone confirm this, or suggest what might be
> >> the difference?
> >>
> >
> > Is this the sole test case?
> >
> > I can investigate. Though perhaps using a newer GHC release candidate is
> > also a good idea.
> >
> > -- Don
> >
> 
> I'll try a newer release candidate, although at the time I first ran
> this it was the latest.
> 
> Last night I tried creating the bytestring using "repeat 1" to remove
> the file I/O, and the result was the same.  There are a few other
> things I want to try as well (removing replicateM, folding the list to
> force values rather than printing them all), but my time is extremely
> limited at the moment.


Could you send me a minimal test case not involving IO?

-- Don
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] performance difference for binary-0.4.3.1 with ghc-6.8.3 and ghc-6.10

2008-10-29 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:40:48AM +0700, Donald Halomoan wrote:
> Where can I get ghc-6.10?  I cannot see it at haskell.org website.

No releases from the 6.10 branch have been made yet.


Thanks
Ian

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] performance difference for binary-0.4.3.1 with ghc-6.8.3 and ghc-6.10

2008-10-29 Thread John Lato
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Don Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> jwlato:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was experimenting with using ghc-6.10.0.20081007 on a project, and
>> it seems that binary-0.4.3.1 has markedly worse performance in certain
>> cases.  With the following simple test:
>>
>> > import qualified Data.ByteString.Lazy as L
>> > import Data.Binary
>> > import Data.Binary.Get
>> > import Control.Monad
>> >
>> > main :: IO ()
>> > main = do
>> > b <- L.readFile "some_binary_file"
>> > putStrLn $ show $ runGet getter b
>>
>> > getter :: Get [Word16]
>> > getter = replicateM 100 getWord16le
>>
>> running this program compiled with ghc-6.10 takes about 4 times as
>> long (and consumes much more memory) as when compiled with ghc-6.8.3.
>> The extra time appears to be proportional to the number of elements
>> processed in the Get.  Running the programs with -hT shows a clear
>> memory difference, which I think is the source of the problem.  I've
>> placed pdfs of that output at https://webspace.utexas.edu/latojw/data/
>>
>> The difference seems to manifest itself only when the elements are
>> actually processed; changing "show $ runGet " to "show $ length $
>> runGet " is slightly faster in 6.10.
>>
>> I was working on an Intel Mac with OS 10.4, binary-0.4.3.1, and
>> bytestring-0.9.1.4.  Can anyone confirm this, or suggest what might be
>> the difference?
>>
>
> Is this the sole test case?
>
> I can investigate. Though perhaps using a newer GHC release candidate is
> also a good idea.
>
> -- Don
>

I'll try a newer release candidate, although at the time I first ran
this it was the latest.

Last night I tried creating the bytestring using "repeat 1" to remove
the file I/O, and the result was the same.  There are a few other
things I want to try as well (removing replicateM, folding the list to
force values rather than printing them all), but my time is extremely
limited at the moment.

John
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] performance difference for binary-0.4.3.1 with ghc-6.8.3 and ghc-6.10

2008-10-29 Thread Jason Dusek
  http://www.haskell.org/ghc/dist/stable/dist/
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] performance difference for binary-0.4.3.1 with ghc-6.8.3 and ghc-6.10

2008-10-28 Thread Donald Halomoan
Where can I get ghc-6.10?  I cannot see it at haskell.org website.

On 2008-10-29, Don Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> jwlato:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was experimenting with using ghc-6.10.0.20081007 on a project, and
>> it seems that binary-0.4.3.1 has markedly worse performance in certain
>> cases.  With the following simple test:
>>
>> > import qualified Data.ByteString.Lazy as L
>> > import Data.Binary
>> > import Data.Binary.Get
>> > import Control.Monad
>> >
>> > main :: IO ()
>> > main = do
>> > b <- L.readFile "some_binary_file"
>> > putStrLn $ show $ runGet getter b
>>
>> > getter :: Get [Word16]
>> > getter = replicateM 100 getWord16le
>>
>> running this program compiled with ghc-6.10 takes about 4 times as
>> long (and consumes much more memory) as when compiled with ghc-6.8.3.
>> The extra time appears to be proportional to the number of elements
>> processed in the Get.  Running the programs with -hT shows a clear
>> memory difference, which I think is the source of the problem.  I've
>> placed pdfs of that output at https://webspace.utexas.edu/latojw/data/
>>
>> The difference seems to manifest itself only when the elements are
>> actually processed; changing "show $ runGet " to "show $ length $
>> runGet " is slightly faster in 6.10.
>>
>> I was working on an Intel Mac with OS 10.4, binary-0.4.3.1, and
>> bytestring-0.9.1.4.  Can anyone confirm this, or suggest what might be
>> the difference?
>>
>
> Is this the sole test case?
>
> I can investigate. Though perhaps using a newer GHC release candidate is
> also a good idea.
>
> -- Don
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] performance difference for binary-0.4.3.1 with ghc-6.8.3 and ghc-6.10

2008-10-28 Thread Don Stewart
jwlato:
> Hello,
> 
> I was experimenting with using ghc-6.10.0.20081007 on a project, and
> it seems that binary-0.4.3.1 has markedly worse performance in certain
> cases.  With the following simple test:
> 
> > import qualified Data.ByteString.Lazy as L
> > import Data.Binary
> > import Data.Binary.Get
> > import Control.Monad
> >
> > main :: IO ()
> > main = do
> > b <- L.readFile "some_binary_file"
> > putStrLn $ show $ runGet getter b
> 
> > getter :: Get [Word16]
> > getter = replicateM 100 getWord16le
> 
> running this program compiled with ghc-6.10 takes about 4 times as
> long (and consumes much more memory) as when compiled with ghc-6.8.3.
> The extra time appears to be proportional to the number of elements
> processed in the Get.  Running the programs with -hT shows a clear
> memory difference, which I think is the source of the problem.  I've
> placed pdfs of that output at https://webspace.utexas.edu/latojw/data/
> 
> The difference seems to manifest itself only when the elements are
> actually processed; changing "show $ runGet " to "show $ length $
> runGet " is slightly faster in 6.10.
> 
> I was working on an Intel Mac with OS 10.4, binary-0.4.3.1, and
> bytestring-0.9.1.4.  Can anyone confirm this, or suggest what might be
> the difference?
> 

Is this the sole test case?

I can investigate. Though perhaps using a newer GHC release candidate is
also a good idea.

-- Don
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] performance difference for binary-0.4.3.1 with ghc-6.8.3 and ghc-6.10

2008-10-28 Thread John Lato
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Alexander Dunlap
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:36 AM, John Lato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was experimenting with using ghc-6.10.0.20081007 on a project, and
>> it seems that binary-0.4.3.1 has markedly worse performance in certain
>> cases.  With the following simple test:
>>
>>> import qualified Data.ByteString.Lazy as L
>>> import Data.Binary
>>> import Data.Binary.Get
>>> import Control.Monad
>>>
>>> main :: IO ()
>>> main = do
>>> b <- L.readFile "some_binary_file"
>>> putStrLn $ show $ runGet getter b
>>
>>> getter :: Get [Word16]
>>> getter = replicateM 100 getWord16le
>>
>> running this program compiled with ghc-6.10 takes about 4 times as
>> long (and consumes much more memory) as when compiled with ghc-6.8.3.
>> The extra time appears to be proportional to the number of elements
>> processed in the Get.  Running the programs with -hT shows a clear
>> memory difference, which I think is the source of the problem.  I've
>> placed pdfs of that output at https://webspace.utexas.edu/latojw/data/
>>
>> The difference seems to manifest itself only when the elements are
>> actually processed; changing "show $ runGet " to "show $ length $
>> runGet " is slightly faster in 6.10.
>>
>> I was working on an Intel Mac with OS 10.4, binary-0.4.3.1, and
>> bytestring-0.9.1.4.  Can anyone confirm this, or suggest what might be
>> the difference?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> John Lato
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>
> With GHC 6.8.2:
>
> test: too few bytes. Failed reading at byte position 1613914
>
> real0m27.573s
> user0m12.917s
> sys 0m0.087s
>
> With GHC 6.11.20081003:
>
> test: too few bytes. Failed reading at byte position 1613914
>
> real0m21.528s
> user0m14.759s
> sys 0m0.135s
>
> I'm not using the exact same versions as you are, but I seem to be
> getting different results.
>

Hi Alexander,

Thanks for trying this out.  Based on your error, I'd guess that the
file isn't large enough to read all the requested data.  In my case,
it was about 70MB.  You could try reading from /dev/random, or rather
than reading from a file, use something like

>> test_pure = let b = Data.ByteString.Lazy.repeat 1 in putStrLn $ show $ 
>> runGet getter b

I haven't tried a pure version myself, so I don't know what to expect
from it.  Something to do tonight...

Cheers,
John
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] performance difference for binary-0.4.3.1 with ghc-6.8.3 and ghc-6.10

2008-10-26 Thread Alexander Dunlap
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:36 AM, John Lato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was experimenting with using ghc-6.10.0.20081007 on a project, and
> it seems that binary-0.4.3.1 has markedly worse performance in certain
> cases.  With the following simple test:
>
>> import qualified Data.ByteString.Lazy as L
>> import Data.Binary
>> import Data.Binary.Get
>> import Control.Monad
>>
>> main :: IO ()
>> main = do
>> b <- L.readFile "some_binary_file"
>> putStrLn $ show $ runGet getter b
>
>> getter :: Get [Word16]
>> getter = replicateM 100 getWord16le
>
> running this program compiled with ghc-6.10 takes about 4 times as
> long (and consumes much more memory) as when compiled with ghc-6.8.3.
> The extra time appears to be proportional to the number of elements
> processed in the Get.  Running the programs with -hT shows a clear
> memory difference, which I think is the source of the problem.  I've
> placed pdfs of that output at https://webspace.utexas.edu/latojw/data/
>
> The difference seems to manifest itself only when the elements are
> actually processed; changing "show $ runGet " to "show $ length $
> runGet " is slightly faster in 6.10.
>
> I was working on an Intel Mac with OS 10.4, binary-0.4.3.1, and
> bytestring-0.9.1.4.  Can anyone confirm this, or suggest what might be
> the difference?
>
> Thank you,
> John Lato
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With GHC 6.8.2:

test: too few bytes. Failed reading at byte position 1613914

real0m27.573s
user0m12.917s
sys 0m0.087s

With GHC 6.11.20081003:

test: too few bytes. Failed reading at byte position 1613914

real0m21.528s
user0m14.759s
sys 0m0.135s

I'm not using the exact same versions as you are, but I seem to be
getting different results.
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[Haskell-cafe] performance difference for binary-0.4.3.1 with ghc-6.8.3 and ghc-6.10

2008-10-26 Thread John Lato
Hello,

I was experimenting with using ghc-6.10.0.20081007 on a project, and
it seems that binary-0.4.3.1 has markedly worse performance in certain
cases.  With the following simple test:

> import qualified Data.ByteString.Lazy as L
> import Data.Binary
> import Data.Binary.Get
> import Control.Monad
>
> main :: IO ()
> main = do
> b <- L.readFile "some_binary_file"
> putStrLn $ show $ runGet getter b

> getter :: Get [Word16]
> getter = replicateM 100 getWord16le

running this program compiled with ghc-6.10 takes about 4 times as
long (and consumes much more memory) as when compiled with ghc-6.8.3.
The extra time appears to be proportional to the number of elements
processed in the Get.  Running the programs with -hT shows a clear
memory difference, which I think is the source of the problem.  I've
placed pdfs of that output at https://webspace.utexas.edu/latojw/data/

The difference seems to manifest itself only when the elements are
actually processed; changing "show $ runGet " to "show $ length $
runGet " is slightly faster in 6.10.

I was working on an Intel Mac with OS 10.4, binary-0.4.3.1, and
bytestring-0.9.1.4.  Can anyone confirm this, or suggest what might be
the difference?

Thank you,
John Lato
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