Re: [Haskell-cafe] C++ interface with Haskell
Evan Laforge wrote: To threadjack a little bit, I've been interfacing haskell with c++. It gets awkward when the c++ structures use STL types like string and vector. Of course those are too complex for haskell to marshal to. What I've been doing is defining an XMarshal variant of the X c++ class, that uses plain c arrays. Then I marshal to that, and construct the c++ object properly from XMarshal in the c-c++ wrapper layer. On a few occasions, when the c++ class is really big and only has one STL member, I make a partially constructed c++ object, pass the array separately, and then construct the proper c++ class from the broken haskell generated one. Possibly dangerous as all get-out because I'm dealing with unconstructed c++ objects, but it seems to work. you mean, you hack around with the internal representation of those structures? Well, if you want to avoid double-copying, C++ can't access Haskell sequences, and Haskell can't access C++ sequences, I guess I don't see an alternative. Passing back to haskell is easier since I can use *vec.begin(), which according to the internet should be safe because STL guarantees that vector contents are contiguous. safe until either: the vector's contents change, if Haskell is assuming it's immutable, or more seriously, if the vector's length is changed, the pointers are invalidated and it might crash (due to reallocating for a bigger continuous memory chunk) I'm only saved by the fact that I don't have that many different kinds of classes to pass. This would be much more drudgery if I had more. Does anyone have a better solution or convention for marshalling c++ objects? not better, but, you could wrap the methods of the class and call back into C++ (through C wrappers) to do anything with the class, if it suited your purposes better and wasn't too slow I've also noticed warnings from g++ about hsc2hs's use of the OFFSETOF macro on c++ classes, but some googling of g++ mailing lists implied that it's harmless if you don't have virtual bases, and what sane person does, so I suppress it now :) ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] C++ interface with Haskell
you mean, you hack around with the internal representation of those structures? Well, if you want to avoid double-copying, C++ can't access Haskell sequences, and Haskell can't access C++ sequences, I guess I don't see an alternative. I don't really mind double copying, but having to declare c variants (i.e. no stl) of all the c++ structures and then copy from one to the other is a little tedious. I was hoping there was some clever trick to make that easier... Passing back to haskell is easier since I can use *vec.begin(), which according to the internet should be safe because STL guarantees that vector contents are contiguous. safe until either: the vector's contents change, if Haskell is assuming it's immutable, Well, naturally I peekArray before letting c++ have it back. I'm only saved by the fact that I don't have that many different kinds of classes to pass. This would be much more drudgery if I had more. Does anyone have a better solution or convention for marshalling c++ objects? not better, but, you could wrap the methods of the class and call back into C++ (through C wrappers) to do anything with the class, if it suited your purposes better and wasn't too slow Yeah, I was thinking of that, but it seemed like even more of a hassle. However, a more practical variant might be to write a haskell interface to marshal to vectors and strings, probably involving some void pointer sketchiness since naturally template types can't be expressed in a C function signature, and then poke those into the struct when I pass it. That would only work for vectors stored by pointer of course. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] C++ interface with Haskell
you could write a C++ function to marshal a Sequence (or any Container
IIRC, maybe Forward Container) to a vector (or whatever you wanted --
there are choices), and then
okay let's see if I remember C++ well enough
This design has extra copying. but anyway
templatetypename Container
std::vectortypename Container::value_type
container_to_vector(Container const c) {
return std::vectortypename Container::value_type(c.begin(), c.end());
}
and
templatetypename Container
Container vector_to_sequence(std::vectortypename Container::value_type
const c) {
return Container(c.begin(), c.end());
}
extern C {
/* the temporary returned variable doesn't last long enough here */
(char*, int)/*I know C++ doesn't have this syntax of tuples*/
string_to_array(std::string const s) {
return (*container_to_vector(s).begin())
}
}
In other words I suspect that it's possible with a minimum of
boilerplate per type, (possibly including the use of macros), but I'm
not sure exactly what you need to do, and I got tired of being a C++-fu
expert a few years ago
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] C++ interface with Haskell
Although you could use gcc to link the code I wouldn't recommend it
(mainly for the problems you are currently having)
SImply call GHC to compile both the C and Haskell code. It will take
care of finding the headers and supplying the necessary linker
arguments.
ghc -ffi -c foo.hs myfoo_c.c
BTW, you don't need to compile viaC
2008/4/17 Miguel Lordelo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well Isaac...I became now a little bit smarter then yesterday!!!
I show you the example that I found and on which I´m working with.
File: foo.hs
module Foo where
foreign export ccall foo :: Int - IO Int
foo :: Int - IO Int
foo n = return (length (f n))
f :: Int - [Int]
f 0 = []
f n = n:(f (n-1))
To get the C wrapper you insert the following command:
ghc -ffi -fvia-C -C foo.hs
After execution you will have these following additional files:
foo.hc
foo.hi
foo_stub.c
foo_stub.h
foo_stub.o
What I did next was to create a file named: myfoo_c.c, where I will call the
foo function (implemented in Haskell).
(you can see this example on
http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/ffi-ghc.html )
But the problem is to compile with gcc (must I put any flag or whatever set
something)
The gcc output is:
myfoo_c.c:2:19: error: HsFFI.h: No such file or directory
I downloaded this header file from: (I know that is not the correct way, but
it was the only idea that occurs at the moment)
http://www.koders.com/c/fidD0593B84C41CA71319BB079EFD0A2C80211C9337.aspx
I compiled again and the following return error appears:
myfoo_c.c:(.text+0x1c): undefined reference to `hs_init'
myfoo_c.c:(.text+0x31): undefined reference to `foo'
myfoo_c.c:(.text+0x50): undefined reference to `hs_exit'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
These functions are necessary to setup GHC runtime (see:
http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/ffi-ghc.html )
What I want to know is how to compile myfoo_c.c?! Is it with GCC or GHC?!
Chears,
Miguel Lordelo.
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Isaac Dupree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
perhaps
haskell:
foreign export foo_func foo :: Int - IO Int
-- I forget the rest of the syntax here
C++:
extern C {
int foo_func(int i);
}
int some_cplusplus_function() {
int bat = 3;
int blah = foo_func(bat);
return blah;
}
Is that all you need to do?
Miguel Lordelo wrote:
Hi all,
Well...somehow I'm a beginner in Haskell. But actually my interest in
Haskell will increase if it is possible to call a haskell function in
C++.
Something like GreenCard ( http://www.haskell.org/greencard/ )
simplifying
the task of interfacing Haskell programs to external libraries
(usually).
But is there also a task to interface a foreign language with Haskell,
but
calling Haskell functions. Or c2hs which is an interface generator that
simplifies the development of Haskell bindings to C libraries.
I want to know this, because in my company some guys are doing some
testing
with Frotran and MatLab and I want to show them the power of haskell and
the
software which we are using is implemented in C++ (there is the reason
to
make Haskel - C++).
I read somewhere that the only way for C++ calling a haskell function is
to
create a binding between Haskell and C and from C to C++, but a easy
Hello
World example was not there.
Unfortunatelly I couldn't found anything usefull, like an complete
example,
or how to compile the code from haskell to C to C++.
Can sombody help me, please :P
Chears,
Miguel Lordelo.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] C++ interface with Haskell
Thanks,
I found on one site how to compile after creating the stub files with GHC:
First step:
*ghc -c -ffi haskell_file.hs*
Second step - here it is important to know and write where are the ghc
libraries:
*gcc -I /usr/local/lib/ghc-5.04.3/include -c C_file.c *
After that it is important to link my creted C_file with the stub file and
compile it:
*ghc -no-hs-main -o C_file C_file.o haskell_file.o haskell_file_stub.o*
The final result is C_file execution file...just enter C_file and the
program is running correctly.
This information: how to compile and to link C with Haskell and to call a
Haskell funtion from C was quite difficult.
But here is my result of googling throw the internet and to find something
usefull.
Next challange: link C++ with C and creating a usefull documentation and put
it online!
Ciao,
Miguel Lordelo.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Alfonso Acosta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Although you could use gcc to link the code I wouldn't recommend it
(mainly for the problems you are currently having)
SImply call GHC to compile both the C and Haskell code. It will take
care of finding the headers and supplying the necessary linker
arguments.
ghc -ffi -c foo.hs myfoo_c.c
BTW, you don't need to compile viaC
2008/4/17 Miguel Lordelo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well Isaac...I became now a little bit smarter then yesterday!!!
I show you the example that I found and on which I´m working with.
File: foo.hs
module Foo where
foreign export ccall foo :: Int - IO Int
foo :: Int - IO Int
foo n = return (length (f n))
f :: Int - [Int]
f 0 = []
f n = n:(f (n-1))
To get the C wrapper you insert the following command:
ghc -ffi -fvia-C -C foo.hs
After execution you will have these following additional files:
foo.hc
foo.hi
foo_stub.c
foo_stub.h
foo_stub.o
What I did next was to create a file named: myfoo_c.c, where I will call
the
foo function (implemented in Haskell).
(you can see this example on
http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/ffi-ghc.html )
But the problem is to compile with gcc (must I put any flag or whatever
set
something)
The gcc output is:
myfoo_c.c:2:19: error: HsFFI.h: No such file or directory
I downloaded this header file from: (I know that is not the correct way,
but
it was the only idea that occurs at the moment)
http://www.koders.com/c/fidD0593B84C41CA71319BB079EFD0A2C80211C9337.aspx
I compiled again and the following return error appears:
myfoo_c.c:(.text+0x1c): undefined reference to `hs_init'
myfoo_c.c:(.text+0x31): undefined reference to `foo'
myfoo_c.c:(.text+0x50): undefined reference to `hs_exit'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
These functions are necessary to setup GHC runtime (see:
http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/ffi-ghc.html )
What I want to know is how to compile myfoo_c.c?! Is it with GCC or
GHC?!
Chears,
Miguel Lordelo.
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Isaac Dupree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
perhaps
haskell:
foreign export foo_func foo :: Int - IO Int
-- I forget the rest of the syntax here
C++:
extern C {
int foo_func(int i);
}
int some_cplusplus_function() {
int bat = 3;
int blah = foo_func(bat);
return blah;
}
Is that all you need to do?
Miguel Lordelo wrote:
Hi all,
Well...somehow I'm a beginner in Haskell. But actually my interest
in
Haskell will increase if it is possible to call a haskell function
in
C++.
Something like GreenCard ( http://www.haskell.org/greencard/ )
simplifying
the task of interfacing Haskell programs to external libraries
(usually).
But is there also a task to interface a foreign language with
Haskell,
but
calling Haskell functions. Or c2hs which is an interface generator
that
simplifies the development of Haskell bindings to C libraries.
I want to know this, because in my company some guys are doing some
testing
with Frotran and MatLab and I want to show them the power of haskell
and
the
software which we are using is implemented in C++ (there is the
reason
to
make Haskel - C++).
I read somewhere that the only way for C++ calling a haskell
function is
to
create a binding between Haskell and C and from C to C++, but a easy
Hello
World example was not there.
Unfortunatelly I couldn't found anything usefull, like an complete
example,
or how to compile the code from haskell to C to C++.
Can sombody help me, please :P
Chears,
Miguel Lordelo.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] C++ interface with Haskell
if you'd normally be linking using g++, you'll need (IIRC) -lstdc++
added to linking-ghc's command line
Alfonso Acosta wrote:
Although you could use gcc to link the code I wouldn't recommend it
(mainly for the problems you are currently having)
SImply call GHC to compile both the C and Haskell code. It will take
care of finding the headers and supplying the necessary linker
arguments.
ghc -ffi -c foo.hs myfoo_c.c
BTW, you don't need to compile viaC
2008/4/17 Miguel Lordelo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well Isaac...I became now a little bit smarter then yesterday!!!
I show you the example that I found and on which I´m working with.
File: foo.hs
module Foo where
foreign export ccall foo :: Int - IO Int
foo :: Int - IO Int
foo n = return (length (f n))
f :: Int - [Int]
f 0 = []
f n = n:(f (n-1))
To get the C wrapper you insert the following command:
ghc -ffi -fvia-C -C foo.hs
After execution you will have these following additional files:
foo.hc
foo.hi
foo_stub.c
foo_stub.h
foo_stub.o
What I did next was to create a file named: myfoo_c.c, where I will call the
foo function (implemented in Haskell).
(you can see this example on
http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/ffi-ghc.html )
But the problem is to compile with gcc (must I put any flag or whatever set
something)
The gcc output is:
myfoo_c.c:2:19: error: HsFFI.h: No such file or directory
I downloaded this header file from: (I know that is not the correct way, but
it was the only idea that occurs at the moment)
http://www.koders.com/c/fidD0593B84C41CA71319BB079EFD0A2C80211C9337.aspx
I compiled again and the following return error appears:
myfoo_c.c:(.text+0x1c): undefined reference to `hs_init'
myfoo_c.c:(.text+0x31): undefined reference to `foo'
myfoo_c.c:(.text+0x50): undefined reference to `hs_exit'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
These functions are necessary to setup GHC runtime (see:
http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/ffi-ghc.html )
What I want to know is how to compile myfoo_c.c?! Is it with GCC or GHC?!
Chears,
Miguel Lordelo.
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Isaac Dupree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
perhaps
haskell:
foreign export foo_func foo :: Int - IO Int
-- I forget the rest of the syntax here
C++:
extern C {
int foo_func(int i);
}
int some_cplusplus_function() {
int bat = 3;
int blah = foo_func(bat);
return blah;
}
Is that all you need to do?
Miguel Lordelo wrote:
Hi all,
Well...somehow I'm a beginner in Haskell. But actually my interest in
Haskell will increase if it is possible to call a haskell function in
C++.
Something like GreenCard ( http://www.haskell.org/greencard/ )
simplifying
the task of interfacing Haskell programs to external libraries
(usually).
But is there also a task to interface a foreign language with Haskell,
but
calling Haskell functions. Or c2hs which is an interface generator that
simplifies the development of Haskell bindings to C libraries.
I want to know this, because in my company some guys are doing some
testing
with Frotran and MatLab and I want to show them the power of haskell and
the
software which we are using is implemented in C++ (there is the reason
to
make Haskel - C++).
I read somewhere that the only way for C++ calling a haskell function is
to
create a binding between Haskell and C and from C to C++, but a easy
Hello
World example was not there.
Unfortunatelly I couldn't found anything usefull, like an complete
example,
or how to compile the code from haskell to C to C++.
Can sombody help me, please :P
Chears,
Miguel Lordelo.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] C++ interface with Haskell
Well Isaac...I became now a little bit smarter then yesterday!!!
I show you the example that I found and on which I´m working with.
File: foo.hs
module Foo where
foreign export ccall foo :: Int - IO Int
foo :: Int - IO Int
foo n = return (length (f n))
f :: Int - [Int]
f 0 = []
f n = n:(f (n-1))
To get the C wrapper you insert the following command:
ghc -ffi -fvia-C -C foo.hs
After execution you will have these following additional files:
foo.hc
foo.hi
foo_stub.c
foo_stub.h
foo_stub.o
What I did next was to create a file named: myfoo_c.c, where I will call the
foo function (implemented in Haskell).
(you can see this example on
http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/ffi-ghc.html )
But the problem is to compile with gcc (must I put any flag or whatever set
something)
The gcc output is:
myfoo_c.c:2:19: error: HsFFI.h: No such file or directory
I downloaded this header file from: (I know that is not the correct way, but
it was the only idea that occurs at the moment)
http://www.koders.com/c/fidD0593B84C41CA71319BB079EFD0A2C80211C9337.aspx
I compiled again and the following return error appears:
myfoo_c.c:(.text+0x1c): undefined reference to `hs_init'
myfoo_c.c:(.text+0x31): undefined reference to `foo'
myfoo_c.c:(.text+0x50): undefined reference to `hs_exit'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
These functions are necessary to setup GHC runtime (see:
http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/ffi-ghc.html )
What I want to know is how to compile myfoo_c.c?! Is it with GCC or GHC?!
Chears,
Miguel Lordelo.
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Isaac Dupree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
perhaps
haskell:
foreign export foo_func foo :: Int - IO Int
-- I forget the rest of the syntax here
C++:
extern C {
int foo_func(int i);
}
int some_cplusplus_function() {
int bat = 3;
int blah = foo_func(bat);
return blah;
}
Is that all you need to do?
Miguel Lordelo wrote:
Hi all,
Well...somehow I'm a beginner in Haskell. But actually my interest in
Haskell will increase if it is possible to call a haskell function in
C++.
Something like GreenCard ( http://www.haskell.org/greencard/ )
simplifying
the task of interfacing Haskell programs to external libraries
(usually).
But is there also a task to interface a foreign language with Haskell,
but
calling Haskell functions. Or c2hs which is an interface generator that
simplifies the development of Haskell bindings to C libraries.
I want to know this, because in my company some guys are doing some
testing
with Frotran and MatLab and I want to show them the power of haskell and
the
software which we are using is implemented in C++ (there is the reason
to
make Haskel - C++).
I read somewhere that the only way for C++ calling a haskell function is
to
create a binding between Haskell and C and from C to C++, but a easy
Hello
World example was not there.
Unfortunatelly I couldn't found anything usefull, like an complete
example,
or how to compile the code from haskell to C to C++.
Can sombody help me, please :P
Chears,
Miguel Lordelo.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] C++ interface with Haskell
write the C wrapper that calls haskell, then link that to your C++ objects I think what you're really asking is how to call C from C++ -Dan 2008/4/16 Miguel Lordelo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, Well...somehow I'm a beginner in Haskell. But actually my interest in Haskell will increase if it is possible to call a haskell function in C++. Something like GreenCard ( http://www.haskell.org/greencard/ ) simplifying the task of interfacing Haskell programs to external libraries (usually). But is there also a task to interface a foreign language with Haskell, but calling Haskell functions. Or c2hs which is an interface generator that simplifies the development of Haskell bindings to C libraries. I want to know this, because in my company some guys are doing some testing with Frotran and MatLab and I want to show them the power of haskell and the software which we are using is implemented in C++ (there is the reason to make Haskel - C++). I read somewhere that the only way for C++ calling a haskell function is to create a binding between Haskell and C and from C to C++, but a easy Hello World example was not there. Unfortunatelly I couldn't found anything usefull, like an complete example, or how to compile the code from haskell to C to C++. Can sombody help me, please :P Chears, Miguel Lordelo. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] C++ interface with Haskell
perhaps
haskell:
foreign export foo_func foo :: Int - IO Int
-- I forget the rest of the syntax here
C++:
extern C {
int foo_func(int i);
}
int some_cplusplus_function() {
int bat = 3;
int blah = foo_func(bat);
return blah;
}
Is that all you need to do?
Miguel Lordelo wrote:
Hi all,
Well...somehow I'm a beginner in Haskell. But actually my interest in
Haskell will increase if it is possible to call a haskell function in C++.
Something like GreenCard ( http://www.haskell.org/greencard/ ) simplifying
the task of interfacing Haskell programs to external libraries (usually).
But is there also a task to interface a foreign language with Haskell, but
calling Haskell functions. Or c2hs which is an interface generator that
simplifies the development of Haskell bindings to C libraries.
I want to know this, because in my company some guys are doing some testing
with Frotran and MatLab and I want to show them the power of haskell and the
software which we are using is implemented in C++ (there is the reason to
make Haskel - C++).
I read somewhere that the only way for C++ calling a haskell function is to
create a binding between Haskell and C and from C to C++, but a easy Hello
World example was not there.
Unfortunatelly I couldn't found anything usefull, like an complete example,
or how to compile the code from haskell to C to C++.
Can sombody help me, please :P
Chears,
Miguel Lordelo.
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