Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot? -- please stop this
On 23/11/11 19:11, heathmatlock wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? No. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot? -- please stop this
On Monday 05 December 2011, 17:03:35, Mark Lentczner wrote: On 23/11/11 19:11, heathmatlock wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? No. I thought it was dead. Since it isn't: also no. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
Yes On 23/11/11 19:11, heathmatlock wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- This is an attempt to figure out if this idea is going anywhere. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- PMatos ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
Yes. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Paulo J. Matos pa...@matos-sorge.comwrote: Yes On 23/11/11 19:11, heathmatlock wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- This is an attempt to figure out if this idea is going anywhere. __**_ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/**mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafehttp://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- PMatos __**_ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/**mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafehttp://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
Yes and I like that one. :D On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Liyang HU haskell@liyang.hu wrote: On 25 November 2011 17:28, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote: And we already have one: http://paraiso-lang.org/ikmsm/books/c80.html Uh. W...T...F...??? Do I want to know what's going on there? :p It's called Reduce! λ Girl, a parody of Invade! Squid Girl. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_Girl The doujinshi itself comprises of several serious Haskell/FP articles, but with lots of puns thrown in. (So I am informed.) /Liyang ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
Yes On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:11 PM, heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.com wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- This is an attempt to figure out if this idea is going anywhere. -- Heath Matlock +1 256 274 4225 ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
i wouldn't mind a cool mascot, so yes hex -- * my blog is cooler than yours: http://serialhex.github.com * The wise man said: Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. * As a programmer, it is your job to put yourself out of business. What you do today can be automated tomorrow. ~Doug McIlroy --- CFO: “What happens if we train people and they leave?” CTO: “What if we don’t and they stay?” ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
heathmatlock heathmatlock at gmail.com writes: Question: Do you want a mascot? Yes And we already have one: http://paraiso-lang.org/ikmsm/books/c80.html /Liyang ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
On 25 November 2011 19:13, Liyang HU haskell@liyang.hu wrote: heathmatlock heathmatlock at gmail.com writes: Question: Do you want a mascot? Yes And we already have one: http://paraiso-lang.org/ikmsm/books/c80.html Uh. W...T...F...??? Do I want to know what's going on there? :p -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
On 25 November 2011 17:28, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote: And we already have one: http://paraiso-lang.org/ikmsm/books/c80.html Uh. W...T...F...??? Do I want to know what's going on there? :p It's called Reduce! λ Girl, a parody of Invade! Squid Girl. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_Girl The doujinshi itself comprises of several serious Haskell/FP articles, but with lots of puns thrown in. (So I am informed.) /Liyang ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
On Friday 25 November 2011, 09:28:29, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote: On 25 November 2011 19:13, Liyang HU haskell@liyang.hu wrote: heathmatlock heathmatlock at gmail.com writes: Question: Do you want a mascot? Yes And we already have one: http://paraiso-lang.org/ikmsm/books/c80.html Uh. W...T...F...??? Exactly my thoughts. Do I want to know what's going on there? :p I don't think so. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
Yes. 2011/11/24 Colin Adams colinpaulad...@gmail.com No. On 23 November 2011 19:11, heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.com wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- This is an attempt to figure out if this idea is going anywhere. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
No. Am Mittwoch, den 23.11.2011, 13:11 -0600 schrieb heathmatlock: Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- This is an attempt to figure out if this idea is going anywhere. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot? -- please stop this
2011/11/23 Giovanni Tirloni gtirl...@sysdroid.com: 2. It floods people with email they don't care (unless they care to keep track of the results) Not that I care that much about a mascot (I like the lamb though), but a few threads about it hardly counts for a flooding. Besides, a good email client would allows to group emails that belong together (a thread) and mute them. Also, this is café, right ? Aren't people subscribed to this list supposed to expect a broad range of topics ? David. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
I have the same position. want a good mascot... Count this as yes. 2011/11/23 Gábor Lehel illiss...@gmail.com: I don't want a bad mascot. I do want a good mascot. If you must count me down for one side or the other, count this as a yes. On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:11 PM, heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.com wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- This is an attempt to figure out if this idea is going anywhere. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- Work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- Victor Nazarov ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot? -- please stop this
David Virebayre dav.vire+hask...@gmail.com writes: Also, this is café, right ? Aren't people subscribed to this list supposed to expect a broad range of topics ? I don't mind a broad range of topics, but using it to collect polls is IMHO abusing it. I guess I can dust off the killfiling features in Gnus to deal with this, but I still think it's very annoying. -k -- If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
@Wolfgang Jeltsch: I'm sorry, that was indeed my intension. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
And also: Yes! (sorry for double post) On 24 November 2011 20:51, philipp siegmantel philipp.siegman...@googlemail.com wrote: @Wolfgang Jeltsch: I'm sorry, that was indeed my intension. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
No On 24 November 2011 06:11, heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.com wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- This is an attempt to figure out if this idea is going anywhere. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
No On 23 Nov 2011, at 23:11, heathmatlock wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- This is an attempt to figure out if this idea is going anywhere. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
No -- Scott Lawrence ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
Yes On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 19:11, heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.com wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- This is an attempt to figure out if this idea is going anywhere. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
Yes PS: Why not using Doodle for the poll? signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
I don't want a bad mascot. I do want a good mascot. If you must count me down for one side or the other, count this as a yes. On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:11 PM, heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.com wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- This is an attempt to figure out if this idea is going anywhere. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- Work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
Yes Reasoning: Haskell has the image of being unfriendly, assenine, filled with crazy symbols, and the dreaded MATHS! A mascot would say you know what, this is fun! if (*ra4 != 0xffc78948) { return false; } On 23 Nov 2011, at 19:40, Alexander Bernauer wrote: Yes PS: Why not using Doodle for the poll? ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alexander Bernauer alex-hask...@copton.net wrote: Yes PS: Why not using Doodle for the poll? Email is an easy way to make sure nobody votes twice. -- Heath Matlock +1 256 274 4225 ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
Yes 2011/11/23 heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alexander Bernauer alex-hask...@copton.net wrote: Yes PS: Why not using Doodle for the poll? Email is an easy way to make sure nobody votes twice. -- Heath Matlock +1 256 274 4225 ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
Yes If some people don't like it, they won't use it. I doubt it will find its way in highly technical haskell core team, but it could appear for fun here and there in web material. For example, I think we could have 3 variants of it, reflecting the haskell level (beginner, confirmed, guru). Whenever someone writes an article about Haskell, (s)he could place one of them at the top of the page to immediatly show the target audience. Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- Paul ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
2011/11/23 heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.com: Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- This is an attempt to figure out if this idea is going anywhere. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe Yes. Best, Karol Samborski ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
{^_^} ||| 2011/11/23 Alejandro Serrano Mena trup...@gmail.com Yes 2011/11/23 heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alexander Bernauer alex-hask...@copton.net wrote: Yes PS: Why not using Doodle for the poll? Email is an easy way to make sure nobody votes twice. -- Heath Matlock +1 256 274 4225 ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot? -- please stop this
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 5:52 PM, heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alexander Bernauer alex-hask...@copton.net wrote: Yes PS: Why not using Doodle for the poll? Email is an easy way to make sure nobody votes twice. 1. It's unlikely to get feedback from the larger Haskell community 2. It floods people with email they don't care (unless they care to keep track of the results) 3. One can just as easily create throw-away emails, subscribe to the list and answer the poll 4. etc... My suggestion is to create a poll somewhere else and let it run for at least a month. Or a more elaborated survey with additional questions trying to capture the community's feeling toward a masket and what kind. I don't think we are in a hurry to get a mascot here so let's take the time and do it properly. -- Giovanni ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot? -- please stop this
I second this. One way is to use Forms from Google Docs. 1. They have been used with success before for similar pools 2. Can provide more elaborate questions 3. Automatically put results into a spreadsheet, which is useful 4. Protect against double-voters (sort of) 5. No spam Best regards, Krzysztof Skrzętnicki On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 21:25, Giovanni Tirloni gtirl...@sysdroid.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 5:52 PM, heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alexander Bernauer alex-hask...@copton.net wrote: Yes PS: Why not using Doodle for the poll? Email is an easy way to make sure nobody votes twice. 1. It's unlikely to get feedback from the larger Haskell community 2. It floods people with email they don't care (unless they care to keep track of the results) 3. One can just as easily create throw-away emails, subscribe to the list and answer the poll 4. etc... My suggestion is to create a poll somewhere else and let it run for at least a month. Or a more elaborated survey with additional questions trying to capture the community's feeling toward a masket and what kind. I don't think we are in a hurry to get a mascot here so let's take the time and do it properly. -- Giovanni ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
heathmatlock wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? No. I also really think this poll should have been in a web site somewhere and not on this list. Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot? -- please stop this
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Giovanni Tirloni gtirl...@sysdroid.comwrote: 1. It's unlikely to get feedback from the larger Haskell community 2. It floods people with email they don't care (unless they care to keep track of the results) 3. One can just as easily create throw-away emails, subscribe to the list and answer the poll I thought about this, but I was trying to keep the response short. 4. etc... My suggestion is to create a poll somewhere else and let it run for at least a month. I suppose we could do this. Kryzyztof suggested Google Docs, so I created a poll there: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFpic3dzZkVtcW5yZkVWbFNuckpyWmc6MQ Or a more elaborated survey with additional questions trying to capture the community's feeling toward a masket and what kind. I'm not sure what additional questions would be appropriate. I don't think we are in a hurry to get a mascot here so let's take the time and do it properly. I can agree to that. The reasons I created a poll using the email method are: 1. Typically, mail programs have methods of keeping emails separated by topic, so your mailbox isn't littered with just one topic. 2. It's quick with little hassle, just respond. But, you have a point about reaching a wider audience. My only concern is how many people outside of the Haskell community are going to vote. Without methods of recognizing who's spamming the results, it's difficult to really judge how accurately the poll reflects the community's views. Polldaddy.com has nice spam filters. I'm guessing posting functional Javascript to the wiki isn't possible though, this would require someone with write access to the site. -- Heath Matlock +1 256 274 4225 ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
I wouldn't mind getting a lamb-astronaut tshirt with a lambda-bind logo on it for my kid, and maybe next month a lion-skateboarder with a lambda-bind on his deck, and then maybe something with a dinosaur. I guess I don't really want a mascot either, but I like this artwork. Conrad. On 24 November 2011 06:18, Erik de Castro Lopo mle...@mega-nerd.com wrote: heathmatlock wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? No. I also really think this poll should have been in a web site somewhere and not on this list. Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot? -- please stop this
I closed the poll, it's showing 51% no and 50% yes, 129 to 128 respectively. I also found out you can vote as many times as you want without restriction, with no IP logging whatsoever. This is why I don't like putting polls on places where users regularly use anonymity for their own agendas, e.g. Reddit, which is when it seems most of the votes came from. From the public email poll, there were 4 no votes and 8 yes votes, and from the original thread on a mascot, there were about 15 people liking the idea of a mascot, and less than half of this openly saying against the idea. I would say the next step might be create a poll using polldaddy, but even filtering IP addresses wouldn't stop people from using a workaround with Tor. With email, you can see how many people are registering and immediately voting. Anyway, I'm not sure how to proceed, but I'm going going to call it a night and a week with this, since it's going to be long next couple of days. Happy Thanksgiving to anyone celebrating the Holiday tomorrow. On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:36 PM, heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Giovanni Tirloni gtirl...@sysdroid.comwrote: 1. It's unlikely to get feedback from the larger Haskell community 2. It floods people with email they don't care (unless they care to keep track of the results) 3. One can just as easily create throw-away emails, subscribe to the list and answer the poll I thought about this, but I was trying to keep the response short. 4. etc... My suggestion is to create a poll somewhere else and let it run for at least a month. I suppose we could do this. Kryzyztof suggested Google Docs, so I created a poll there: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFpic3dzZkVtcW5yZkVWbFNuckpyWmc6MQ Or a more elaborated survey with additional questions trying to capture the community's feeling toward a masket and what kind. I'm not sure what additional questions would be appropriate. I don't think we are in a hurry to get a mascot here so let's take the time and do it properly. I can agree to that. The reasons I created a poll using the email method are: 1. Typically, mail programs have methods of keeping emails separated by topic, so your mailbox isn't littered with just one topic. 2. It's quick with little hassle, just respond. But, you have a point about reaching a wider audience. My only concern is how many people outside of the Haskell community are going to vote. Without methods of recognizing who's spamming the results, it's difficult to really judge how accurately the poll reflects the community's views. Polldaddy.com has nice spam filters. I'm guessing posting functional Javascript to the wiki isn't possible though, this would require someone with write access to the site. -- Heath Matlock +1 256 274 4225 -- Heath Matlock +1 256 274 4225 ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot? -- please stop this
Before sleeping, I would like to point out as of right now there are 12 up votes and 5 down votes, 70% yes and 30% no for the topic on Reddit. It doesn't necessarily reflect the view on the question being posed, but it seems about right from my discussions. With that, I will try to refrain from speaking about a mascot for awhile. On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:58 PM, heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.comwrote: I closed the poll, it's showing 51% no and 50% yes, 129 to 128 respectively. I also found out you can vote as many times as you want without restriction, with no IP logging whatsoever. This is why I don't like putting polls on places where users regularly use anonymity for their own agendas, e.g. Reddit, which is when it seems most of the votes came from. From the public email poll, there were 4 no votes and 8 yes votes, and from the original thread on a mascot, there were about 15 people liking the idea of a mascot, and less than half of this openly saying against the idea. I would say the next step might be create a poll using polldaddy, but even filtering IP addresses wouldn't stop people from using a workaround with Tor. With email, you can see how many people are registering and immediately voting. Anyway, I'm not sure how to proceed, but I'm going going to call it a night and a week with this, since it's going to be long next couple of days. Happy Thanksgiving to anyone celebrating the Holiday tomorrow. On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:36 PM, heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Giovanni Tirloni gtirl...@sysdroid.comwrote: 1. It's unlikely to get feedback from the larger Haskell community 2. It floods people with email they don't care (unless they care to keep track of the results) 3. One can just as easily create throw-away emails, subscribe to the list and answer the poll I thought about this, but I was trying to keep the response short. 4. etc... My suggestion is to create a poll somewhere else and let it run for at least a month. I suppose we could do this. Kryzyztof suggested Google Docs, so I created a poll there: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFpic3dzZkVtcW5yZkVWbFNuckpyWmc6MQ Or a more elaborated survey with additional questions trying to capture the community's feeling toward a masket and what kind. I'm not sure what additional questions would be appropriate. I don't think we are in a hurry to get a mascot here so let's take the time and do it properly. I can agree to that. The reasons I created a poll using the email method are: 1. Typically, mail programs have methods of keeping emails separated by topic, so your mailbox isn't littered with just one topic. 2. It's quick with little hassle, just respond. But, you have a point about reaching a wider audience. My only concern is how many people outside of the Haskell community are going to vote. Without methods of recognizing who's spamming the results, it's difficult to really judge how accurately the poll reflects the community's views. Polldaddy.com has nice spam filters. I'm guessing posting functional Javascript to the wiki isn't possible though, this would require someone with write access to the site. -- Heath Matlock +1 256 274 4225 -- Heath Matlock +1 256 274 4225 -- Heath Matlock +1 256 274 4225 ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
Yes 2011/11/24 Conrad Parker con...@metadecks.org: I wouldn't mind getting a lamb-astronaut tshirt with a lambda-bind logo on it for my kid, and maybe next month a lion-skateboarder with a lambda-bind on his deck, and then maybe something with a dinosaur. I guess I don't really want a mascot either, but I like this artwork. Conrad. On 24 November 2011 06:18, Erik de Castro Lopo mle...@mega-nerd.com wrote: heathmatlock wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? No. I also really think this poll should have been in a web site somewhere and not on this list. Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poll: Do you want a mascot?
No. On 23 November 2011 19:11, heathmatlock heathmatl...@gmail.com wrote: Question: Do you want a mascot? Answers: Yes No -- This is an attempt to figure out if this idea is going anywhere. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe