Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell Actors, Linda, publish / subscribe models?
Hi, the actor package seems unmaintained and probably doesn't fit your needs. If you want to implement some kind of publish/subscribe system over the network, I'd suggest you take a look at ZeroMQ[1] and AMQP[2]. AMQP is probably easier to get started with, but it requires you to set up a dedicated broker, which (if you have very high throughput) might become a bottleneck. ZeroMQ, on the other hand, allows for a more decentralized architecture. Regards, Holger [1] http://hackage.haskell.org/package/zeromq-haskell [2] http://hackage.haskell.org/package/amqp 2011/8/14 dokondr doko...@gmail.com On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:54 PM, dokondr doko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to figure out what Haskell libraries can be used to build publish / subscribe communication between threads running both in the same and different address spaces on the net. For my needs any of these models will work: - Actors [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actor_model ] - Linda tuple space [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_%28coordination_language%29 ] - Publish / subscribe [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Message_Service#Publish.2Fsubscribe_model] I need to build a framework to coordinate task producers / consumers distributed in the same and different address spaces. I need to scale a data processing application somewhat Hadoop-like way yet in more flexible manner, without Hadoop-specific distributed FS constraints. Looking through Applications and libraries/Concurrency and parallelism: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Applications_and_libraries/Concurrency_and_parallelism I found Haskell actor package [ http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/actor ] that fails to build with ghc 7.0. Please advise on latest working libraries. Thanks! Have anybody used Haskell actor package [ http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/actor ]? ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell Actors, Linda, publish / subscribe models?
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Holger Reinhardt hreinha...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, the actor package seems unmaintained and probably doesn't fit your needs. If you want to implement some kind of publish/subscribe system over the network, I'd suggest you take a look at ZeroMQ[1] and AMQP[2]. AMQP is probably easier to get started with, but it requires you to set up a dedicated broker, which (if you have very high throughput) might become a bottleneck. ZeroMQ, on the other hand, allows for a more decentralized architecture. Regards, Holger [1] http://hackage.haskell.org/package/zeromq-haskell [2] http://hackage.haskell.org/package/amqp Thanks! I will try these out. I wish I could find something that will provide a *single* publish / subscribe framework to work with threads *both* in the same and separate address spaces. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell Actors, Linda, publish / subscribe models?
It seems that the recent Cloud Haskell paper is relevant: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/simonpj/papers/parallel/remote.pdf The repo is here: https://github.com/jepst/CloudHaskell I haven't tried it yet myself but would like to. Cheers, -Ryan On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:32 AM, dokondr doko...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Holger Reinhardt hreinha...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, the actor package seems unmaintained and probably doesn't fit your needs. If you want to implement some kind of publish/subscribe system over the network, I'd suggest you take a look at ZeroMQ[1] and AMQP[2]. AMQP is probably easier to get started with, but it requires you to set up a dedicated broker, which (if you have very high throughput) might become a bottleneck. ZeroMQ, on the other hand, allows for a more decentralized architecture. Regards, Holger [1] http://hackage.haskell.org/package/zeromq-haskell [2] http://hackage.haskell.org/package/amqp Thanks! I will try these out. I wish I could find something that will provide a *single* publish / subscribe framework to work with threads *both* in the same and separate address spaces. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell Actors, Linda, publish / subscribe models?
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Ryan Newton rrnew...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that the recent Cloud Haskell paper is relevant: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/simonpj/papers/parallel/remote.pdf The repo is here: https://github.com/jepst/CloudHaskell I haven't tried it yet myself but would like to. Cheers, -Ryan Thanks for the really great news! Finally Erlang actor model of communication comes to Haskell! I hope that one day Haskell will also evolve to provide dynamic code update as Erlang does. It would then be the ideal PL for reliable programming of adaptive, distributed real-world systems! -- All the best, Dmitri O. Kondratiev This is what keeps me going: discovery doko...@gmail.com http://sites.google.com/site/dokondr/welcome ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell Actors, Linda, publish / subscribe models?
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:54 PM, dokondr doko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to figure out what Haskell libraries can be used to build publish / subscribe communication between threads running both in the same and different address spaces on the net. For my needs any of these models will work: - Actors [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actor_model ] - Linda tuple space [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_%28coordination_language%29 ] - Publish / subscribe [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Message_Service#Publish.2Fsubscribe_model] I need to build a framework to coordinate task producers / consumers distributed in the same and different address spaces. I need to scale a data processing application somewhat Hadoop-like way yet in more flexible manner, without Hadoop-specific distributed FS constraints. Looking through Applications and libraries/Concurrency and parallelism: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Applications_and_libraries/Concurrency_and_parallelism I found Haskell actor package [ http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/actor ] that fails to build with ghc 7.0. Please advise on latest working libraries. Thanks! Have anybody used Haskell actor package [ http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/actor ]? ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] Haskell Actors, Linda, publish / subscribe models?
Hi, I am trying to figure out what Haskell libraries can be used to build publish / subscribe communication between threads running both in the same and different address spaces on the net. For my needs any of these models will work: - Actors [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actor_model ] - Linda tuple space [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_%28coordination_language%29 ] - Publish / subscribe [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Message_Service#Publish.2Fsubscribe_model] I need to build a framework to coordinate task producers / consumers distributed in the same and different address spaces. I need to scale a data processing application somewhat Hadoop-like way yet in more flexible manner, without Hadoop-specific distributed FS constraints. Looking through Applications and libraries/Concurrency and parallelism: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Applications_and_libraries/Concurrency_and_parallelism I found Haskell actor package [ http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/actor ] that fails to build with ghc 7.0. Please advise on latest working libraries. Thanks! -- All the best, Dmitri O. Kondratiev This is what keeps me going: discovery doko...@gmail.com http://sites.google.com/site/dokondr/welcome ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
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