Re: Firefox 12 stability

2012-05-04 Thread Numien

On 04/05/12 03:35 AM, Roger Burton West wrote:
With 6-11, would you have had time to notice before a new version came 
out? 


Which is a hate in itself.

My e-mail server (Kerio Mailserver) was written with the assumption 
that, since Firefox 3 was the latest for years, it would never have to 
handle a 2-digit version code.


So when Firefox 10 came out, it assumed I was using Firefox 1, and 
changed its webmail page appropriately.


I'm not entirely sure which software to hate more in this case. But at 
least I'll only have to wait a few months for Firefox 30, and then it'll 
be happy again. After all, it's not like it'll go through any major changes.





Re: Firefox 12 stability

2012-05-04 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* Numien num...@deathwyrm.com [2012-05-04 12:30]:
 I'm not entirely sure which software to hate more in this case.

Any way you turn it, the mail server. That was plain stupid. What, does
it cost extra in string manipulation fees to grab more characters?

* Roger Burton West ro...@firedrake.org [2012-05-04 09:40]:
 With 6-11, would you have had time to notice before a new version came
 out?

I would ask if you would be upset at this if the releases were identical
except they were called 4.6 thru 4.11… but we are here united in hate of
software so this is not the place to do so.



Re: Firefox 12 stability

2012-05-04 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 04:58:35PM +0200, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
* Roger Burton West ro...@firedrake.org [2012-05-04 09:40]:
 With 6-11, would you have had time to notice before a new version came
 out?
I would ask if you would be upset at this if the releases were identical
except they were called 4.6 thru 4.11??? but we are here united in hate of
software so this is not the place to do so.

If they were equally prone to break any software that made the mistake
of trying to work with Firefox (rather than holding it off with a chair
and a whip), then yes...



Re: Firefox 12 stability

2012-05-04 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 04:58:35PM +0200, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
 I would ask if you would be upset at this if the releases were identical
 except they were called 4.6 thru 4.11???

I woiuld be even more upset at that, because 4.11  4.6.

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Re: Firefox 12 stability

2012-05-04 Thread Smylers
Dave Brown writes:

 Version-number hyperinflation ... It's not really a new thing,

  $ less --version
  less 444

Doesn't seem to cause anybody any harm.

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Re: Firefox 12 stability

2012-05-04 Thread Dave Brown
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 06:26:56AM -0400, Numien wrote:
 On 04/05/12 03:35 AM, Roger Burton West wrote:
 With 6-11, would you have had time to notice before a new version
 came out?
 
 Which is a hate in itself.
 
 My e-mail server (Kerio Mailserver) was written with the assumption
 that, since Firefox 3 was the latest for years, it would never have
 to handle a 2-digit version code.
 
 So when Firefox 10 came out, it assumed I was using Firefox 1, and
 changed its webmail page appropriately.

Version-number hyperinflation seems to have been something which started
with Google Chrome (which is at version 18.somthing at the moment, and
that's only the last time I bothered checking) and seems to have been
gleefully accepted as an Excellent Idea by all of Chrome's competitors.

Remember when emacs was at version 1.18?  Then they decided to drop the
1 and go the version-hyperinflation route.  It's not really a new
thing, it's just that the acceptance of version-hyperinflation has hit a
meta-hyperinflation cycle.  I fully expect version numbers to explode
messily in a couple of years, and emacs, whatever Mozilla's browser is
called, and whatever Google's browser is called, will suddenly come out
as just being Emacs, Mozilla and Google Browser respectively.
Kind of like how Apple short-circuited the iPad version number inflation
before it even hit 3 by declaring that henceforth, the current iPad,
no matter what its specs, will be simply referred to as the iPad.

--Dave



Re: Firefox 12 stability

2012-05-04 Thread Tony Finch
Dave Brown dagbr...@lart.ca wrote:

 Remember when emacs was at version 1.18?  Then they decided to drop the
 1 and go the version-hyperinflation route.

Sheesh. And xterm is on version 258 and less is on version 436. The sky is
falling!

 Kind of like how Apple short-circuited the iPad version number inflation
 before it even hit 3 by declaring that henceforth, the current iPad,
 no matter what its specs, will be simply referred to as the iPad.

See also the model names of the iMac and MacBook. Not a new thing with Apple.

Tony.
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