Re: [HCP-Users] Transformation matrices for tractography

2017-09-21 Thread Elam, Jennifer
This earlier thread might be of use to you: 
<https://www.mail-archive.com/hcp-users@humanconnectome.org/msg04257.html>

https://www.mail-archive.com/hcp-users@humanconnectome.org/msg03768.html

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Jenn
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<hcp-users-boun...@humanconnectome.org> on behalf of Athanasia Metoki 
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Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 11:06:04 AM
To: Glasser, Matthew
Cc: hcp-users@humanconnectome.org
Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] Transformation matrices for tractography

Hello Matt,

I get the coordinates based on the peak activation for several brain areas for 
each subject. I get the peak activation by thresholding.
I want to use these coordinates and make spherical ROIs in FSL.
After I create these spherical ROIs, I want to use them as seeds for 
tractography.
The ROIs will be in MNI space for each subject.
Tractography only runs in diffusion space, so I would like to know whether the 
transformation matrices (MNI space to native space, and native space to MNI 
space) are available somewhere.

Thanks.

Best,
Nasia

Athanasia Metoki
Psychology Doctoral Student - Brain and Cognitive Sciences Program
Cognitive Neuroscience Laboratory
Temple University
Department of Psychology
1701 N 13th St.
Philadelphia, PA 19122
Email: athanasia.met...@temple.edu<mailto:athanasia.met...@temple.edu>

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On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Glasser, Matthew 
<glass...@wustl.edu<mailto:glass...@wustl.edu>> wrote:
Brain areas are not spheres.  I don’t think this is a good approach.  What is 
it that you are trying to do?

Peace,

Matt.

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Date: Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 10:25 AM
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<hcp-users@humanconnectome.org<mailto:hcp-users@humanconnectome.org>>
Subject: [HCP-Users] Transformation matrices for tractography

Dear HCP experts,

I am working with the HCP 900 release dataset.

I am extracting coordinates for several brain areas using each subject's 
midthickness surface eg. "100206].L.midthickness_MSMall.32k_fs_LR.surf.gii".

So the coordinates I get are in the MNI space.

I want to use these coordinates to create spheres which I will then use as 
start and end seeds for tractography using FSL's probtrackx2.

probtrackx2 always happens in native space. Given that my seeds will be in MNI 
space, I would have to give probtrackx2 transformation matrices so that seed 
transformation from MNI to diffusion space happens (and then tractography can 
run). Is there somewhere where I can find these matrices?

Thank you.

Best,
Athanasia Metoki
Psychology Doctoral Student - Brain and Cognitive Sciences Program
Cognitive Neuroscience Laboratory
Temple University
Department of Psychology
1701 N 13th 
St.<https://maps.google.com/?q=1701+N+13th+St.+%0D+%0D+Philadelphia,+PA+19122=gmail=g>
Philadelphia, PA 
19122<https://maps.google.com/?q=1701+N+13th+St.+%0D+%0D+Philadelphia,+PA+19122=gmail=g>
Email: athanasia.met...@temple.edu<mailto:athanasia.met...@temple.edu>

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Re: [HCP-Users] Transformation matrices for tractography

2017-09-21 Thread Athanasia Metoki
Hello Matt,

I get the coordinates based on the peak activation for several brain areas
for each subject. I get the peak activation by thresholding.
I want to use these coordinates and make spherical ROIs in FSL.
After I create these spherical ROIs, I want to use them as seeds for
tractography.
The ROIs will be in MNI space for each subject.
Tractography only runs in diffusion space, so I would like to know whether
the transformation matrices (MNI space to native space, and native space to
MNI space) are available somewhere.

Thanks.

Best,
Nasia

*Athanasia Metoki*
Psychology Doctoral Student - Brain and Cognitive Sciences Program
Cognitive Neuroscience Laboratory
Temple University
Department of Psychology
1701 N 13th St.
Philadelphia, PA 19122
Email: athanasia.met...@temple.edu

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On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Glasser, Matthew <glass...@wustl.edu>
wrote:

> Brain areas are not spheres.  I don’t think this is a good approach.  What
> is it that you are trying to do?
>
> Peace,
>
> Matt.
>
> From: <hcp-users-boun...@humanconnectome.org> on behalf of Athanasia
> Metoki <athanasia.met...@temple.edu>
> Date: Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 10:25 AM
> To: "hcp-users@humanconnectome.org" <hcp-users@humanconnectome.org>
> Subject: [HCP-Users] Transformation matrices for tractography
>
> Dear HCP experts,
>
> I am working with the HCP 900 release dataset.
>
> I am extracting coordinates for several brain areas using each subject's
> midthickness surface eg. "100206].L.midthickness_
> MSMall.32k_fs_LR.surf.gii".
>
> So the coordinates I get are in the MNI space.
>
> I want to use these coordinates to create spheres which I will then use as
> start and end seeds for tractography using FSL's probtrackx2.
>
> probtrackx2 always happens in native space. Given that my seeds will be in
> MNI space, I would have to give probtrackx2 transformation matrices so that
> seed transformation from MNI to diffusion space happens (and then
> tractography can run). Is there somewhere where I can find these matrices?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
> *Athanasia Metoki*
> Psychology Doctoral Student - Brain and Cognitive Sciences Program
> Cognitive Neuroscience Laboratory
> Temple University
> Department of Psychology
> 1701 N 13th St.
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1701+N+13th+St.+%0D+%0D+Philadelphia,+PA+19122=gmail=g>
> Philadelphia, PA 19122
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1701+N+13th+St.+%0D+%0D+Philadelphia,+PA+19122=gmail=g>
> Email: athanasia.met...@temple.edu
>
> 
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Re: [HCP-Users] Transformation matrices for tractography

2017-09-21 Thread Glasser, Matthew
Brain areas are not spheres.  I don’t think this is a good approach.  What is 
it that you are trying to do?

Peace,

Matt.

From: 
<hcp-users-boun...@humanconnectome.org<mailto:hcp-users-boun...@humanconnectome.org>>
 on behalf of Athanasia Metoki 
<athanasia.met...@temple.edu<mailto:athanasia.met...@temple.edu>>
Date: Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 10:25 AM
To: "hcp-users@humanconnectome.org<mailto:hcp-users@humanconnectome.org>" 
<hcp-users@humanconnectome.org<mailto:hcp-users@humanconnectome.org>>
Subject: [HCP-Users] Transformation matrices for tractography

Dear HCP experts,

I am working with the HCP 900 release dataset.

I am extracting coordinates for several brain areas using each subject's 
midthickness surface eg. "100206].L.midthickness_MSMall.32k_fs_LR.surf.gii".

So the coordinates I get are in the MNI space.

I want to use these coordinates to create spheres which I will then use as 
start and end seeds for tractography using FSL's probtrackx2.

probtrackx2 always happens in native space. Given that my seeds will be in MNI 
space, I would have to give probtrackx2 transformation matrices so that seed 
transformation from MNI to diffusion space happens (and then tractography can 
run). Is there somewhere where I can find these matrices?

Thank you.

Best,
Athanasia Metoki
Psychology Doctoral Student - Brain and Cognitive Sciences Program
Cognitive Neuroscience Laboratory
Temple University
Department of Psychology
1701 N 13th St.
Philadelphia, PA 19122
Email: athanasia.met...@temple.edu<mailto:athanasia.met...@temple.edu>

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[HCP-Users] Transformation matrices for tractography

2017-09-21 Thread Athanasia Metoki
Dear HCP experts,

I am working with the HCP 900 release dataset.

I am extracting coordinates for several brain areas using each subject's
midthickness surface eg. "100206].L.midthickness_MSMall.32k_fs_LR.surf.gii".

So the coordinates I get are in the MNI space.

I want to use these coordinates to create spheres which I will then use as
start and end seeds for tractography using FSL's probtrackx2.

probtrackx2 always happens in native space. Given that my seeds will be in
MNI space, I would have to give probtrackx2 transformation matrices so that
seed transformation from MNI to diffusion space happens (and then
tractography can run). Is there somewhere where I can find these matrices?

Thank you.

Best,
*Athanasia Metoki*
Psychology Doctoral Student - Brain and Cognitive Sciences Program
Cognitive Neuroscience Laboratory
Temple University
Department of Psychology
1701 N 13th St.
Philadelphia, PA 19122
Email: athanasia.met...@temple.edu

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