Re: [HCP-Users] CIFTIOPEN: NaN values in .dscalar.nii not read
I am feeling confused. If brainordinate is what is shown in the information box when you click on a vertex, then mine does match the 96484 grayordinates. I also have brainordinates on the medial wall (e.g., VERTEX CortexRight 433 is on the medial wall). Let me know if I should look elsewhere for the brainordinates. Thanks, Cherry On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Glasser, Matthew glass...@wusm.wustl.edu wrote: I’m pretty sure that wb_view indices match ciftiopen if you use “Identify Brainordinate.” As I said, the medial wall is not defined in any of the dense timeseries files you might wish to use in your analysis (even if it was, the data inside it wouldn’t be valid as it wouldn’t be cerebral cortex). Let me know if you don’t follow the instructions below for converting your dlabel files into 91282 grayordinates space. Peace, Matt. From: Yizhou Ma maxxx...@umn.edu Date: Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 5:19 PM To: Matt Glasser glass...@wusm.wustl.edu, hcp-users@humanconnectome.org hcp-users@humanconnectome.org Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] CIFTIOPEN: NaN values in .dscalar.nii not read Another thing is that when I look at a grayordinate in wb_view, it gives the index of that grayordinate and its statistics. I can use the index number to find the corresponding grayordinate easily if I am using 96484 grayordiantes from ft_read_cifti, but not as easy if I am using ciftiopen. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Glasser, Matthew glass...@wusm.wustl.edu wrote: Yes, ciftiopen gives the correct number of grayordinates. If you need to correct your dlabel files, you can use wb_command -cifti-separate to get out the GIFTI label files and then use wb_command -cifti-create-label with the correct medial wall ROIs—any subject’s ${StudyFolder}/${Subject}/MNINonLinear/fsaverage_LR32k/${Subject}.${Hemisphere}.atlasroi.32k_fs_LR.shape.gii will do. If you also want to put zeros in the subcortical structures, you can additionally use as the parcel-volume any subject’s ${StudyFolder}/${Subject}/MNINonLinear/ROIs/Atlas_ROIs.2.nii.gz and as the label volume the same volume where you’ve set all voxels to zero. Peace, Matt. From: Yizhou Ma maxxx...@umn.edu Date: Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 4:56 PM To: Matt Glasser glass...@wusm.wustl.edu Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] CIFTIOPEN: NaN values in .dscalar.nii not read Hi Matthew, I am trying to calculate the correspondence between the HCP ICA parcellations with other parcellations (e.g. Yeo 2011, Power 2011). It is ciftiopen that is giving me 91282 grayordinates. Best, Cherry On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Glasser, Matthew glass...@wusm.wustl.edu wrote: For ft_read_cifti, that sounds like a bug, as there are only a total of 91282 grayordinates at 2mm spacing (the medial wall is not defined in the CIFTI standard grayordinates space). As far as matching the dlabel files with the rest of the CIFTI files, it is true that you need to remove the medial wall (and they don’t include any subcortical structures either). What is it that you are trying to do with the dlabel files? Peace, Matt. From: Yizhou Ma maxxx...@umn.edu Date: Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 4:44 PM To: hcp-users@humanconnectome.org hcp-users@humanconnectome.org Subject: [HCP-Users] CIFTIOPEN: NaN values in .dscalar.nii not read Dear HCP experts, I'd like to report what seems to me a problem with ciftiopen. When I opened a .dscalar.nii file with ft_read_cifti, I got 96854 grayordinates. Yet when I used ciftiopen, I got 91282 grayordiantes. It seems to me that ciftiopen automatically left out where there is a NaN in the .dscalar file. This has been a problem for me since I've been trying to use some of the .dlabel files offered by HCP, which come with 64984 surface grayordinates when opened with ciftiopen, medial wall included. It took me a while to realize that my results are not matching up because the discorrespondence in indices. Given that ciftiopen does not read the labelnames and label values from cifti files, I think it can be confusing when it left out NaN values on the medial wall when reading .dscalar files. Best, Cherry ___ HCP-Users mailing list HCP-Users@humanconnectome.org http://lists.humanconnectome.org/mailman/listinfo/hcp-users -- The materials in this message are private and may contain Protected Healthcare Information or other information of a sensitive nature. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that any unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender via telephone or return mail. -- The materials in this message are private and may contain Protected Healthcare Information or other information
Re: [HCP-Users] CIFTIOPEN: NaN values in .dscalar.nii not read
I see. In my WB 1.0 the information window offers Select Brainordinates function. Yet I can only select the surface vertices there. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Glasser, Matthew glass...@wusm.wustl.edu wrote: Those are vertex IDs that don’t match grayordinate Ids (even in your space they won’t match for the right hemisphere). There should be a select brainordinate option somewhere in that window that you can use to get a specific brainordinate. The whole information window needs a bit of a rewrite though and the development version of wb_view I have in front of me has already had some of the changes made to it so I cannot tell you exactly where to look. Peace, Matt. From: Yizhou Ma maxxx...@umn.edu Date: Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 5:33 PM To: Matt Glasser glass...@wusm.wustl.edu Cc: hcp-users@humanconnectome.org hcp-users@humanconnectome.org Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] CIFTIOPEN: NaN values in .dscalar.nii not read I am feeling confused. If brainordinate is what is shown in the information box when you click on a vertex, then mine does match the 96484 grayordinates. I also have brainordinates on the medial wall (e.g., VERTEX CortexRight 433 is on the medial wall). Let me know if I should look elsewhere for the brainordinates. Thanks, Cherry On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Glasser, Matthew glass...@wusm.wustl.edu wrote: I’m pretty sure that wb_view indices match ciftiopen if you use “Identify Brainordinate.” As I said, the medial wall is not defined in any of the dense timeseries files you might wish to use in your analysis (even if it was, the data inside it wouldn’t be valid as it wouldn’t be cerebral cortex). Let me know if you don’t follow the instructions below for converting your dlabel files into 91282 grayordinates space. Peace, Matt. From: Yizhou Ma maxxx...@umn.edu Date: Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 5:19 PM To: Matt Glasser glass...@wusm.wustl.edu, hcp-users@humanconnectome.org hcp-users@humanconnectome.org Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] CIFTIOPEN: NaN values in .dscalar.nii not read Another thing is that when I look at a grayordinate in wb_view, it gives the index of that grayordinate and its statistics. I can use the index number to find the corresponding grayordinate easily if I am using 96484 grayordiantes from ft_read_cifti, but not as easy if I am using ciftiopen. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Glasser, Matthew glass...@wusm.wustl.edu wrote: Yes, ciftiopen gives the correct number of grayordinates. If you need to correct your dlabel files, you can use wb_command -cifti-separate to get out the GIFTI label files and then use wb_command -cifti-create-label with the correct medial wall ROIs—any subject’s ${StudyFolder}/${Subject}/MNINonLinear/fsaverage_LR32k/${Subject}.${Hemisphere}.atlasroi.32k_fs_LR.shape.gii will do. If you also want to put zeros in the subcortical structures, you can additionally use as the parcel-volume any subject’s ${StudyFolder}/${Subject}/MNINonLinear/ROIs/Atlas_ROIs.2.nii.gz and as the label volume the same volume where you’ve set all voxels to zero. Peace, Matt. From: Yizhou Ma maxxx...@umn.edu Date: Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 4:56 PM To: Matt Glasser glass...@wusm.wustl.edu Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] CIFTIOPEN: NaN values in .dscalar.nii not read Hi Matthew, I am trying to calculate the correspondence between the HCP ICA parcellations with other parcellations (e.g. Yeo 2011, Power 2011). It is ciftiopen that is giving me 91282 grayordinates. Best, Cherry On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Glasser, Matthew glass...@wusm.wustl.edu wrote: For ft_read_cifti, that sounds like a bug, as there are only a total of 91282 grayordinates at 2mm spacing (the medial wall is not defined in the CIFTI standard grayordinates space). As far as matching the dlabel files with the rest of the CIFTI files, it is true that you need to remove the medial wall (and they don’t include any subcortical structures either). What is it that you are trying to do with the dlabel files? Peace, Matt. From: Yizhou Ma maxxx...@umn.edu Date: Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 4:44 PM To: hcp-users@humanconnectome.org hcp-users@humanconnectome.org Subject: [HCP-Users] CIFTIOPEN: NaN values in .dscalar.nii not read Dear HCP experts, I'd like to report what seems to me a problem with ciftiopen. When I opened a .dscalar.nii file with ft_read_cifti, I got 96854 grayordinates. Yet when I used ciftiopen, I got 91282 grayordiantes. It seems to me that ciftiopen automatically left out where there is a NaN in the .dscalar file. This has been a problem for me since I've been trying to use some of the .dlabel files offered by HCP, which come with 64984 surface grayordinates when opened with ciftiopen, medial wall included. It took me a while to realize that my results are not matching up because the discorrespondence in indices. Given that ciftiopen does not read