Re: adding Hebrew to bib records
Jasmin: When LC Hebraica catalogers use records created by other institutions as source copy, our practice is to supply the parallel Hebrew script data in our RLIN records only for core fields (245, 250, 260, 4XX). We do not routinely add non-roman data for other fields, if lacking, but do retain and proofread such data if already present in the record. When we at LC implement Unicode with the upgrade of our local Voyager ILS, we will have the capability to add non-roman data directly to our records--both bib records and authority records. We are at the very early stages of considering how this new capability will impact our policies/practices with regard to supplying non-roman data in records. As Joan mentions, resource considerations, as well as user needs, will likely be factored into the decision process. Lenore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/01/05 10:36 AM Yes, and I did ask my supervisor. She recommended that I ask other libraries adopting 1.4 what practices they plan to follow, hence my email query. Jasmin Joan C Biella wrote: Isn't this a question for your library management? They should decide how much time they want you to spend enhancing records already in your catalog, in my opinion. --Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/05 1:18 PM I'm afraid I wasn't clear enough. What I mean to ask is, do I add Hebrew to records that I edit/upgrade/enhance, or only to original records I submit? Thanks, Jasmin Rabenstein, Bernie wrote: My feeling is that if you have not yet barcoded your collection yet, add the Hebrew while you proceed to barcode each item. Bernard H. Rabenstein Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion Cincinnati Campus (513) 221-1875//Fax (513) 221-0519 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kovacic, Ellen Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:43 AM To: Satin, Allan; Rabenstein, Bernie Subject: FW: adding Hebrew to bib records I like Marlene's (Yeshiva's) philosophy! Ellen -Original Message- From: Marlene Schiffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:36 AM To: heb-naco@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: adding Hebrew to bib records Our policy is never to go back. We have enough to deal with going forward. MRS At 02:17 PM 7/26/2005, you wrote: Hello fellow catalogers, Here at Maryland we've just migrated to Connexion 1.4. Now having the ability to input Hebrew, I'm faced with the decision of whether to add Hebrew to all records that lack the vernacular, or only to original records I contribute. What are you other catalogers doing? If you're an RLIN user, when Hebrew became available, did your library start adding Hebrew to all records, or only to new records you were submitting? Thank you for your time and help, Jasmin -- Jasmin Nof Judaica and Hebraica Cataloger 2200 McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-405-9330 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jasmin Nof Judaica and Hebraica Cataloger 2200 McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-405-9330 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding Hebrew to bib records
Yes, and I did ask my supervisor. She recommended that I ask other libraries adopting 1.4 what practices they plan to follow, hence my email query. Jasmin Joan C Biella wrote: Isn't this a question for your library management? They should decide how much time they want you to spend enhancing records already in your catalog, in my opinion. --Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/05 1:18 PM I'm afraid I wasn't clear enough. What I mean to ask is, do I add Hebrew to records that I edit/upgrade/enhance, or only to original records I submit? Thanks, Jasmin Rabenstein, Bernie wrote: My feeling is that if you have not yet barcoded your collection yet, add the Hebrew while you proceed to barcode each item. Bernard H. Rabenstein Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion Cincinnati Campus (513) 221-1875//Fax (513) 221-0519 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kovacic, Ellen Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:43 AM To: Satin, Allan; Rabenstein, Bernie Subject: FW: adding Hebrew to bib records I like Marlene's (Yeshiva's) philosophy! Ellen -Original Message- From: Marlene Schiffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:36 AM To: heb-naco@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: adding Hebrew to bib records Our policy is never to "go back." We have enough to deal with going forward. MRS At 02:17 PM 7/26/2005, you wrote: Hello fellow catalogers, Here at Maryland we've just migrated to Connexion 1.4. Now having the ability to input Hebrew, I'm faced with the decision of whether to add Hebrew to all records that lack the vernacular, or only to original records I contribute. What are you other catalogers doing? If you're an RLIN user, when Hebrew became available, did your library start adding Hebrew to all records, or only to new records you were submitting? Thank you for your time and help, Jasmin -- Jasmin Nof Judaica and Hebraica Cataloger 2200 McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-405-9330 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jasmin Nof Judaica and Hebraica Cataloger 2200 McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-405-9330 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding Hebrew to bib records
Isn't this a question for your library management? They should decide how much time they want you to spend enhancing records already in your catalog, in my opinion. --Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/05 1:18 PM I'm afraid I wasn't clear enough. What I mean to ask is, do I add Hebrew to records that I edit/upgrade/enhance, or only to original records I submit? Thanks, Jasmin Rabenstein, Bernie wrote: My feeling is that if you have not yet barcoded your collection yet, add the Hebrew while you proceed to barcode each item. Bernard H. Rabenstein Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion Cincinnati Campus (513) 221-1875//Fax (513) 221-0519 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kovacic, Ellen Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:43 AM To: Satin, Allan; Rabenstein, Bernie Subject: FW: adding Hebrew to bib records I like Marlene's (Yeshiva's) philosophy! Ellen -Original Message- From: Marlene Schiffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:36 AM To: heb-naco@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: adding Hebrew to bib records Our policy is never to go back. We have enough to deal with going forward. MRS At 02:17 PM 7/26/2005, you wrote: Hello fellow catalogers, Here at Maryland we've just migrated to Connexion 1.4. Now having the ability to input Hebrew, I'm faced with the decision of whether to add Hebrew to all records that lack the vernacular, or only to original records I contribute. What are you other catalogers doing? If you're an RLIN user, when Hebrew became available, did your library start adding Hebrew to all records, or only to new records you were submitting? Thank you for your time and help, Jasmin -- Jasmin Nof Judaica and Hebraica Cataloger 2200 McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-405-9330 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jasmin Nof Judaica and Hebraica Cataloger 2200 McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-405-9330 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding Hebrew to bib records
Dear Jasmine, I do not know how you will export records from OCLC into your local system and whether or not your local system currently supports non-roman scripts. I can only share with you Stanford's experiences and decisions in this matter from the standpoint of an RLIN library. Stanford was one of the first libraries to take advantage of the Hebrew script offered by RLIN. Our local does not yet support Hebrew or other non-roman scripts but we have always made our cataloging decisions based on the premise that one day our local system would do so. We made our decisions on utilizing RLIN's non-roman script after examining the implications of cost vs. access. At Stanford we provide Hebrew script for originaly cataloging for the core fields that were defined by RLIN (245, 250, 260 and 440). We also provide Hebrew script as much as possible for 1xx and 7xx fields. The Hebrew script is stripped out when the records are exported to our local system with the thought that these records will be overlayed with the RLIN records containing the non-roman fields at such time as our local system will support non-roman scirpts. For those records that have copy available but that lack Hebrew script fields, our copy cataloger supplies the title proper (subfield a of the 245 field) and a main entry in readily identifiable. Copy with Hebrew script is accepted as is. You and your administrators will have to decide whether the added costs of providing Hebrew script to your catalog records sufficiently benefit your library's patrons, whether or not you will retroactivlely recatalog your roman-script only catalog records, and also think about the future impact of shared cataloging with Israeli libraries that may provide Hebrew-script only records to the utilities. Heidi - Original Message - From: Jasmin Nof [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: heb-naco@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:17 AM Subject: adding Hebrew to bib records Hello fellow catalogers, Here at Maryland we've just migrated to Connexion 1.4. Now having the ability to input Hebrew, I'm faced with the decision of whether to add Hebrew to all records that lack the vernacular, or only to original records I contribute. What are you other catalogers doing? If you're an RLIN user, when Hebrew became available, did your library start adding Hebrew to all records, or only to new records you were submitting? Thank you for your time and help, Jasmin -- Jasmin Nof Judaica and Hebraica Cataloger 2200 McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-405-9330 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding Hebrew to bib records
Our policy is never to go back. We have enough to deal with going forward. MRS At 02:17 PM 7/26/2005, you wrote: Hello fellow catalogers, Here at Maryland we've just migrated to Connexion 1.4. Now having the ability to input Hebrew, I'm faced with the decision of whether to add Hebrew to all records that lack the vernacular, or only to original records I contribute. What are you other catalogers doing? If you're an RLIN user, when Hebrew became available, did your library start adding Hebrew to all records, or only to new records you were submitting? Thank you for your time and help, Jasmin -- Jasmin Nof Judaica and Hebraica Cataloger 2200 McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-405-9330 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding Hebrew to bib records
Our OPAC now has Hebrew display ability, and, for those with Hebrew font enabled computers, searching is also possible. I'm working on having all the patron access computers loaded with Hebrew type. Thanks, Jasmin Caroline R. Miller wrote: Jasmin and Heb-NACOers, We at UCLA have not yet migrated to Connexion 1.4 but will soon. You need to determine how/whether Hebrew (Greek and Cyrillic too for that matter) will display in your local ILS. Is University of Maryland part of a consortium that has its own system? If so, you need to determine whether Hebrew will display there as well. If local systems or a consortium are not part of the equation and you just would like to add Hebrew scripts to OCLC, you'll need to check with your policy makers at University of Maryland. They may not want you to be devoting the extra time it would take to do this. Caroline --On Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:17 PM -0400 Jasmin Nof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello fellow catalogers, Here at Maryland we've just migrated to Connexion 1.4. Now having the ability to input Hebrew, I'm faced with the decision of whether to add Hebrew to all records that lack the vernacular, or only to original records I contribute. What are you other catalogers doing? If you're an RLIN user, when Hebrew became available, did your library start adding Hebrew to all records, or only to new records you were submitting? Thank you for your time and help, Jasmin -- Jasmin Nof Judaica and Hebraica Cataloger 2200 McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-405-9330 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caroline R. Miller Head, Monographic Cataloging and Authority/Database Maintenance Sections UCLA Library Cataloging Metadata Center Charles E. Young Research Library [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jasmin Nof Judaica and Hebraica Cataloger 2200 McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-405-9330 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding Hebrew to bib records
JTS catalogers add Hebrew vernacular to all RLIN records. Rita At 02:17 PM 7/26/2005 -0400, you wrote: Hello fellow catalogers, Here at Maryland we've just migrated to Connexion 1.4. Now having the ability to input Hebrew, I'm faced with the decision of whether to add Hebrew to all records that lack the vernacular, or only to original records I contribute. What are you other catalogers doing? If you're an RLIN user, when Hebrew became available, did your library start adding Hebrew to all records, or only to new records you were submitting? Thank you for your time and help, Jasmin -- Jasmin Nof Judaica and Hebraica Cataloger 2200 McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-405-9330 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding Hebrew to bib records
Jasmin and Heb-NACOers, We at UCLA have not yet migrated to Connexion 1.4 but will soon. You need to determine how/whether Hebrew (Greek and Cyrillic too for that matter) will display in your local ILS. Is University of Maryland part of a consortium that has its own system? If so, you need to determine whether Hebrew will display there as well. If local systems or a consortium are not part of the equation and you just would like to add Hebrew scripts to OCLC, you'll need to check with your policy makers at University of Maryland. They may not want you to be devoting the extra time it would take to do this. Caroline --On Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:17 PM -0400 Jasmin Nof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello fellow catalogers, Here at Maryland we've just migrated to Connexion 1.4. Now having the ability to input Hebrew, I'm faced with the decision of whether to add Hebrew to all records that lack the vernacular, or only to original records I contribute. What are you other catalogers doing? If you're an RLIN user, when Hebrew became available, did your library start adding Hebrew to all records, or only to new records you were submitting? Thank you for your time and help, Jasmin -- Jasmin Nof Judaica and Hebraica Cataloger 2200 McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-405-9330 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caroline R. Miller Head, Monographic Cataloging and Authority/Database Maintenance Sections UCLA Library Cataloging Metadata Center Charles E. Young Research Library [EMAIL PROTECTED]
