Re: Please recommend zero-hassle video card for GUIX
Just one more note:
In GNU IceCat browser, in about:config, this option needs to be enabled:
layers.acceleration.force-enabled
See:
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=239077
Otherwise, there will be a subtle but noticeable tearing of videos.
On 24.09.2020 12:34, y...@yasuaki.com wrote:
Just to follow up, here's what I did:
- Removed my original NVidia GTX 750 video card
- Installed the new AMD RX580 video card
- Added an unofficial Guix channel to use the "regular"
Linux Kernel (instead of Linux-Libre)
My new Guix experience is now a world apart from the old!
- It does't freeze like every 30 minutes anymore...
- It works like any other normal computer! (Great 2D/3D/video
performance!)
Cheers,
Yasu
yasu@guix ~$ guix system describe
Generation 16 Sep 24 2020 20:27:04(current)
file name: /var/guix/profiles/system-16-link
canonical file name:
/gnu/store/9crwhnhyc6nwspd9j4m09sk1bb6r93j3-system
label: GNU with Linux 5.8.10
bootloader: grub-efi
root device: label: "my-root"
kernel:
/gnu/store/2z8smc1cn921gxqhb7m11byk6h3asf1k-linux-5.8.10/bzImage
channels:
guix:
repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
branch: master
commit: ff128dc6332fddfc65658a8462796fc7ecd1bdd2
nonguix:
repository URL: https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix
branch: master
commit: fc683132b1838cfdbe968b49e459dc12f4f41ef8
configuration file:
/gnu/store/9f1vi852r032wd38hchm5g2sywxzfkj1-configuration.scm
yasu@guix ~$ cat
/gnu/store/9f1vi852r032wd38hchm5g2sywxzfkj1-configuration.scm
;; This is an operating system configuration template
;; for a "desktop" setup with GNOME and Xfce where the
;; root partition is encrypted with LUKS.
(use-modules
(gnu)
(gnu system nss)
(nongnu packages linux) ;; engine power
(nongnu system linux-initrd)) ;; engine power
(use-service-modules desktop xorg)
(use-package-modules certs gnome)
(operating-system
(kernel linux) ;; engine power
(initrd microcode-initrd) ;; engine power
(firmware (list linux-firmware)) ;; engine power
(host-name "guix")
(timezone "Asia/Tokyo")
(locale "en_US.utf8")
;; Choose US English keyboard layout. The "altgr-intl"
;; variant provides dead keys for accented characters.
(keyboard-layout (keyboard-layout "us"))
;; Use the UEFI variant of GRUB with the EFI System
;; Partition mounted on /boot/efi.
(bootloader (bootloader-configuration
(bootloader grub-efi-bootloader)
(target "/boot/efi")
(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))
;; Specify a mapped device for the encrypted root partition.
;; The UUID is that returned by 'cryptsetup luksUUID'.
;; (mapped-devices
;; (list (mapped-device
;;(source (uuid "12345678-1234-1234-1234-123456789abc"))
;;(target "my-root")
;;(type luks-device-mapping
(file-systems (append
(list (file-system
(device (file-system-label "my-root"))
(mount-point "/")
(type "ext4")
;; (dependencies mapped-devices)
)
(file-system
(device (uuid "C2D0-0B91" 'fat))
(mount-point "/boot/efi")
(type "vfat")))
%base-file-systems))
(users (cons (user-account
(name "yasu")
(comment "yasu")
(group "users")
(supplementary-groups '("wheel" "netdev"
"audio" "video")))
%base-user-accounts))
;; This is where we specify system-wide packages.
(packages (append (list
;; for HTTPS access
nss-certs
;; for user mounts
gvfs)
%base-packages))
;; Add GNOME and Xfce---we can choose at the log-in screen
;; by clicking the gear. Use the "desktop" services, which
;; include the X11 log-in service, networking with
;; NetworkManager, and more.
(services (append (list ;; (service gnome-desktop-service-type)
(service gnome-desktop-service-type)
;; (bluetooth-service)
(set-xorg-configuration
(xorg-configuration
(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout
%desktop-services))
;; Allow resolution of '.local' host names with mDNS.
(name-service-switch %mdns-host-lookup-nss))
root@guix ~# glxinfo | egrep -i 'device|memory'
Device: Radeon RX 580 Series (POLARIS10, DRM 3.38.0, 5.8.10, LLVM
10.0.0) (0x67df)
Video memory: 8192MB
Re: Please recommend zero-hassle video card for GUIX
Just to follow up, here's what I did:
- Removed my original NVidia GTX 750 video card
- Installed the new AMD RX580 video card
- Added an unofficial Guix channel to use the "regular"
Linux Kernel (instead of Linux-Libre)
My new Guix experience is now a world apart from the old!
- It does't freeze like every 30 minutes anymore...
- It works like any other normal computer! (Great 2D/3D/video
performance!)
Cheers,
Yasu
yasu@guix ~$ guix system describe
Generation 16 Sep 24 2020 20:27:04(current)
file name: /var/guix/profiles/system-16-link
canonical file name:
/gnu/store/9crwhnhyc6nwspd9j4m09sk1bb6r93j3-system
label: GNU with Linux 5.8.10
bootloader: grub-efi
root device: label: "my-root"
kernel:
/gnu/store/2z8smc1cn921gxqhb7m11byk6h3asf1k-linux-5.8.10/bzImage
channels:
guix:
repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
branch: master
commit: ff128dc6332fddfc65658a8462796fc7ecd1bdd2
nonguix:
repository URL: https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix
branch: master
commit: fc683132b1838cfdbe968b49e459dc12f4f41ef8
configuration file:
/gnu/store/9f1vi852r032wd38hchm5g2sywxzfkj1-configuration.scm
yasu@guix ~$ cat
/gnu/store/9f1vi852r032wd38hchm5g2sywxzfkj1-configuration.scm
;; This is an operating system configuration template
;; for a "desktop" setup with GNOME and Xfce where the
;; root partition is encrypted with LUKS.
(use-modules
(gnu)
(gnu system nss)
(nongnu packages linux) ;; engine power
(nongnu system linux-initrd)) ;; engine power
(use-service-modules desktop xorg)
(use-package-modules certs gnome)
(operating-system
(kernel linux) ;; engine power
(initrd microcode-initrd) ;; engine power
(firmware (list linux-firmware)) ;; engine power
(host-name "guix")
(timezone "Asia/Tokyo")
(locale "en_US.utf8")
;; Choose US English keyboard layout. The "altgr-intl"
;; variant provides dead keys for accented characters.
(keyboard-layout (keyboard-layout "us"))
;; Use the UEFI variant of GRUB with the EFI System
;; Partition mounted on /boot/efi.
(bootloader (bootloader-configuration
(bootloader grub-efi-bootloader)
(target "/boot/efi")
(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))
;; Specify a mapped device for the encrypted root partition.
;; The UUID is that returned by 'cryptsetup luksUUID'.
;; (mapped-devices
;; (list (mapped-device
;;(source (uuid "12345678-1234-1234-1234-123456789abc"))
;;(target "my-root")
;;(type luks-device-mapping
(file-systems (append
(list (file-system
(device (file-system-label "my-root"))
(mount-point "/")
(type "ext4")
;; (dependencies mapped-devices)
)
(file-system
(device (uuid "C2D0-0B91" 'fat))
(mount-point "/boot/efi")
(type "vfat")))
%base-file-systems))
(users (cons (user-account
(name "yasu")
(comment "yasu")
(group "users")
(supplementary-groups '("wheel" "netdev"
"audio" "video")))
%base-user-accounts))
;; This is where we specify system-wide packages.
(packages (append (list
;; for HTTPS access
nss-certs
;; for user mounts
gvfs)
%base-packages))
;; Add GNOME and Xfce---we can choose at the log-in screen
;; by clicking the gear. Use the "desktop" services, which
;; include the X11 log-in service, networking with
;; NetworkManager, and more.
(services (append (list ;; (service gnome-desktop-service-type)
(service gnome-desktop-service-type)
;; (bluetooth-service)
(set-xorg-configuration
(xorg-configuration
(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout
%desktop-services))
;; Allow resolution of '.local' host names with mDNS.
(name-service-switch %mdns-host-lookup-nss))
root@guix ~# glxinfo | egrep -i 'device|memory'
Device: Radeon RX 580 Series (POLARIS10, DRM 3.38.0, 5.8.10, LLVM
10.0.0) (0x67df)
Video memory: 8192MB
https://www.amazon.co.jp/SAPPHIRE-RADEON-%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89-VD6907-SA-RX580-8GD5PL002/dp/B07PCCS63W/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_ja_JP=%E3%82%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A=1=amd+580=1600948539=8-3
On 18.09.2020 10:27, Efraim Flashner wrote:
On September 17, 2020 9:00:54 PM UTC, Yasuaki Kudo
wrote:
Thank you Efraim and Raghav but I forgot to mention that I need decent
web browser experience of dual 60hz 4K (HDMI).
While the
Re: Please recommend zero-hassle video card for GUIX
On September 17, 2020 9:00:54 PM UTC, Yasuaki Kudo wrote: >Thank you Efraim and Raghav but I forgot to mention that I need decent web >browser experience of dual 60hz 4K (HDMI). > >While the reviews on amazon.jp do confirm Linux friendliness but they say it >is way too slow for that, even with hardware acceleration enabled... > Yeah, that does sound unfortunate. I would assume that another GPU from that generation (something208) should work also but unfortunately I don't have any experience with that. > >> On Sep 18, 2020, at 04:54, Efraim Flashner wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:53:50PM +, Raghav Gururajan wrote: >>> Hello Yasuaki Kudo! >>> >>> AFAIK, there is only one that is both free-software and AMD chip-set >>> compatible. It's GeForce GT 710. >>> >>> Regards, >>> RG. >>> >> >> I can confirm the GeForce GT 710 works. I picked one up after I broke >> the VGA port on my motherboard. >> >> -- >> Efraim Flashner אפרים פלשנר >> GPG key = A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 >> Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: Please recommend zero-hassle video card for GUIX
Hello Yasuaki, Yasuaki Kudo writes: > Hi, > > As per the subject-line, what is the very best video chip/card for GUIX? My > criteria: > > • I use AMD Ryzen 5 CPU (The chip has no integrated video feature enabled) > • I currently use NVIDIA with proprietary driver support provided by > corresponding NixOS packages but now I am considering switching from > NixOS to Guix – so I prefer to have a video card that runs natively > without proprietary driver enabling gimmick. > • The video card should behave normally – there should be no performance > degradation in 2D/3D/video, etc. Behaving normally is an easy target, but "no performance degradation in 2D/3D/video less so, because I'm not sure a GPU exists that can do video decoding without a binary blob. I'm currently using an old nVIDIA 8800 GTS on my desktop with the nouveau driver. 2D and 3D seems fine and stable (I don't play games though), but it doesn't accelerate videos, so some applications will use a lot of CPU. At work, I use another nVIDIA card (GeForce GTX 680) with similar results (good desktop performance, no video acceleration). I don't know what the landscape looks like on the AMD side, but I know their recent cards boasting the free AMDGPU driver are nearly useless without the binary blobs (no 3D support, and that's if you're lucky that it doesn't leave you on a black screen at boot). You can view reports of video hardware at h-node.org [0]. Hope that helps! Maxim [0] https://h-node.org/videocards/catalogue/en
Re: Please recommend zero-hassle video card for GUIX
Hello Yasuaki Kudo! > Thank you Efraim and Raghav but I forgot to mention that I need decent web > browser experience of > dual 60hz 4K (HDMI). > > While the reviews on amazon.jp do confirm Linux friendliness but they say it > is way too slow for > that, even with hardware acceleration enabled... In that case, AFAIK, you will have to change your chip-set to Intel H370 and get a graphic-card of Intel UHD Graphics 630. Regards, RG.
Re: Please recommend zero-hassle video card for GUIX
Thank you Efraim and Raghav but I forgot to mention that I need decent web browser experience of dual 60hz 4K (HDMI). While the reviews on amazon.jp do confirm Linux friendliness but they say it is way too slow for that, even with hardware acceleration enabled... > On Sep 18, 2020, at 04:54, Efraim Flashner wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:53:50PM +, Raghav Gururajan wrote: >> Hello Yasuaki Kudo! >> >> AFAIK, there is only one that is both free-software and AMD chip-set >> compatible. It's GeForce GT 710. >> >> Regards, >> RG. >> > > I can confirm the GeForce GT 710 works. I picked one up after I broke > the VGA port on my motherboard. > > -- > Efraim Flashner אפרים פלשנר > GPG key = A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 > Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted
Re: Please recommend zero-hassle video card for GUIX
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:53:50PM +, Raghav Gururajan wrote: > Hello Yasuaki Kudo! > > AFAIK, there is only one that is both free-software and AMD chip-set > compatible. It's GeForce GT 710. > > Regards, > RG. > I can confirm the GeForce GT 710 works. I picked one up after I broke the VGA port on my motherboard. -- Efraim Flashner אפרים פלשנר GPG key = A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Please recommend zero-hassle video card for GUIX
Hello Yasuaki Kudo! AFAIK, there is only one that is both free-software and AMD chip-set compatible. It's GeForce GT 710. Regards, RG.
Please recommend zero-hassle video card for GUIX
Hi, As per the subject-line, what is the very best video chip/card for GUIX? My criteria: • I use AMD Ryzen 5 CPU (The chip has no integrated video feature enabled) • I currently use NVIDIA with proprietary driver support provided by corresponding NixOS packages but now I am considering switching from NixOS to Guix – so I prefer to have a video card that runs natively without proprietary driver enabling gimmick. • The video card should behave normally – there should be no performance degradation in 2D/3D/video, etc. Cheers, Yasu
