Re: StumpWM package doesn't work

[Andy Patterson]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 10:53:16 +0100
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote:

> Andy Patterson  skribis:
> 
> > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 21:43:23 +0100
> > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote:
> >  
> >> iyzs...@member.fsf.org (宋文武) skribis:
> >>   
> >> > Toni Reina  writes:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm trying to install `sbcl-stumpwm` package and looks like it
> >> >> doesn't work correctly. It's installed with no errors, but it
> >> >> doesn't generate the stumpwm binary file.
> >> >>
> >> >> The following package will be installed:
> >> >>sbcl-stumpwm
> >> >> 0.9.9   /gnu/store/z92ri0kgjdavkp7llav1db0dia44sbid-sbcl-stumpwm-0.9.9
> >> >>
> >> >> ls /gnu/store/z92ri0kgjdavkp7llav1db0dia44sbid-sbcl-stumpwm-0.9.9
> >> >> -> lib  share
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > It's in the "bin" output of sbcl-stumpwm package, you can get it
> >> > with:
> >> >
> >> > guix package -i sbcl-stumpwm:bin
> >> 
> >> It might be clearer to have an “out” and a “lib” output (instead of
> >> “bin” and “out”).  WDYT, Andy & 宋文武?  
> >
> > I think that would basically shift the awkwardness from package
> > installation over to package development, since it would then be
> > required that all dependants of stumpwm use the lib output in the
> > inputs field (but only on sbcl? - since ecl binaries aren't
> > supported just yet).   
> 
> OK but there’s only one dependent:
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> $ guix refresh -l sbcl-stumpwm
> A single dependent package: sbcl-stumpwm-with-slynk-0.9.9
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> 
> So I think it would be preferable to do it the way I suggest, no?
> 

Sure, I agree. Packages which have a program built are more likely to
be leaves, after all.

Since there haven't been other replies, I think we've reached a
consensus. I'll work to roll this into other updates in the Lisp
packaging area, and report back.

--
Andy

Re: StumpWM package doesn't work

[Ludovic Courtès]

Andy Patterson  skribis:

> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 21:43:23 +0100
> l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote:
>
>> iyzs...@member.fsf.org (宋文武) skribis:
>> 
>> > Toni Reina  writes:
>> >  
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I'm trying to install `sbcl-stumpwm` package and looks like it
>> >> doesn't work correctly. It's installed with no errors, but it
>> >> doesn't generate the stumpwm binary file.
>> >>
>> >> The following package will be installed:
>> >>sbcl-stumpwm
>> >> 0.9.9   /gnu/store/z92ri0kgjdavkp7llav1db0dia44sbid-sbcl-stumpwm-0.9.9
>> >>
>> >> ls /gnu/store/z92ri0kgjdavkp7llav1db0dia44sbid-sbcl-stumpwm-0.9.9  
>> >> -> lib  share  
>> >>  
>> >
>> > It's in the "bin" output of sbcl-stumpwm package, you can get it
>> > with:
>> >
>> > guix package -i sbcl-stumpwm:bin  
>> 
>> It might be clearer to have an “out” and a “lib” output (instead of
>> “bin” and “out”).  WDYT, Andy & 宋文武?
>
> I think that would basically shift the awkwardness from package
> installation over to package development, since it would then be
> required that all dependants of stumpwm use the lib output in the
> inputs field (but only on sbcl? - since ecl binaries aren't supported
> just yet). 

OK but there’s only one dependent:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
$ guix refresh -l sbcl-stumpwm
A single dependent package: sbcl-stumpwm-with-slynk-0.9.9
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

So I think it would be preferable to do it the way I suggest, no?

> I think the best way to clarify things would be to merge the outputs,
> although this carries a ~61MiB (~11MiB compressed) extra cost. In the
> case of stumpwm, I guess that the library isn't all that useful without
> the binary, so that might be ok.

Could be an option, but not great.

> Another alternative would be to create a separate package like with
> sbcl-stumpwm-with-slynk.
>
> I think what might be at the root of the issue though is that multiple
> outputs aren't discoverable enough. The page at
>  doesn't list them
> AFAICT, and entering guix package -i sbcl-stumpwm into a shell and
> mashing tab only lists one entry for the package, when I think it
> should be two.

Good points!  We can certainly address these two issues quite easily.

Thanks for your feedback!

Ludo’.

Re: StumpWM package doesn't work

[Ludovic Courtès]

iyzs...@member.fsf.org (宋文武) skribis:

> Toni Reina  writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm trying to install `sbcl-stumpwm` package and looks like it doesn't
>> work correctly. It's installed with no errors, but it doesn't generate
>> the stumpwm binary file.
>>
>> The following package will be installed:
>>sbcl-stumpwm 0.9.9   
>> /gnu/store/z92ri0kgjdavkp7llav1db0dia44sbid-sbcl-stumpwm-0.9.9
>>
>> ls /gnu/store/z92ri0kgjdavkp7llav1db0dia44sbid-sbcl-stumpwm-0.9.9
>> -> lib  share
>>
>
> It's in the "bin" output of sbcl-stumpwm package, you can get it with:
>
> guix package -i sbcl-stumpwm:bin

It might be clearer to have an “out” and a “lib” output (instead of
“bin” and “out”).  WDYT, Andy & 宋文武?

Ludo’.

Re: StumpWM package doesn't work

[Toni Reina]

It works perfectly, thank you so much.

宋文武 writes:

> Toni Reina  writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm trying to install `sbcl-stumpwm` package and looks like it doesn't
>> work correctly. It's installed with no errors, but it doesn't generate
>> the stumpwm binary file.
>>
>> The following package will be installed:
>>sbcl-stumpwm 0.9.9   
>> /gnu/store/z92ri0kgjdavkp7llav1db0dia44sbid-sbcl-stumpwm-0.9.9
>>
>> ls /gnu/store/z92ri0kgjdavkp7llav1db0dia44sbid-sbcl-stumpwm-0.9.9
>> -> lib  share
>>
>
> It's in the "bin" output of sbcl-stumpwm package, you can get it with:
>
> guix package -i sbcl-stumpwm:bin

Re: StumpWM package doesn't work

[宋文武]

Toni Reina  writes:

> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to install `sbcl-stumpwm` package and looks like it doesn't
> work correctly. It's installed with no errors, but it doesn't generate
> the stumpwm binary file.
>
> The following package will be installed:
>sbcl-stumpwm 0.9.9   
> /gnu/store/z92ri0kgjdavkp7llav1db0dia44sbid-sbcl-stumpwm-0.9.9
>
> ls /gnu/store/z92ri0kgjdavkp7llav1db0dia44sbid-sbcl-stumpwm-0.9.9
> -> lib  share
>

It's in the "bin" output of sbcl-stumpwm package, you can get it with:

guix package -i sbcl-stumpwm:bin