RE: [HG] Musical house.
Hmm... I'd like to know how they managed to find music-quality strings in the lengths needed for these instruments. I've been researching the trumpet marine (which is at least somewhat related to the hurdy-gurdy, as it probably inspired the trompette string) for a while now, and one frustration has been the limited scaling options. My hope was that 'cello and double bass strings were produced on enormous spools in the factory, and cut up only further down the line, but so far I've had no luck finding a source that allows me to bypass that last step. Gut is limited by the length of a sheep's intestine to something around six feet, and there doesn't seem to be any other kind of string for bowed instruments available in custom lengths. I guess it would be a good idea to contact these people for more information. For some reason, I've been working under the assumption that makeshift materials such as monofilament fishing line and aircraft wire are not made to high enough tolerances of uniformity, and would respond poorly to a bow, but perhaps I'm just being ridiculous there. Incidentally, since the strings in these instruments vibrate up and down their length rather than side to side, the wheel in a hurdy-gurdy adaptation should probably be mounted at ninetly degrees to the standard design, almost like my silly vertical bow idea. Also, there may be no way to activate a trompette bridge with longitudinal compression waves. Interesting stuff, at any rate... Nathan Roy Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:06:45 -0700 To: hg@hurdygurdy.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HG] Musical house. That's pretty amazing. It reminds me of something I heard some years ago called The Long String Instrument, http://www.newalbion.com/NA102/ . Great if you like drones. Juan I got this link from another list I am on (bowed Psaltery) and, as it uses rosin to sound, thought the list members may be interested. Do watch the movies, the sound is amazing. Now, if we could add a wheel and trompette.. http://www.symphonichouse.com/ Colin Hill _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan
[HG] Chicago Gurdy Gathering, January 2008
I've been slow about reporting it, but a group of Midwesterners braved January's travel difficulties and temperatures to gather at my house in Chicago and play gurdies together. Some pictures are at http://dennis.sherman.googlepages.com/chicagogurdygathering2008-01-19 We had a good time, and we'll do it again! -- Dennis Sherman Chicago, IL, USA
[HG] hg in the movies
The Polish movie With Fire and Sword, Ogniem i Mieczem directed by Jerzy Hoffman, available on a 2 DVD set from our local library (USA, Long Island), has a nobleman in 17th century shown at beginning of the 2nd DVD playing a hurdy-gurdy to entertain his troops while they sit out in a wood. Unfortunate though the instrument is quickly used to bash someone in the head -- showing I assume another use for the instrument than to scare cats and dogs. But the sound is really quite clear though possibly I imagine it went through several post-performance filters in the edit of the movie. Either that or the 17th century Poles/Ukranians had really good ears. -- Orgrease-Crankbait http://orgrease-crankbait.blogspot.com/ Video, audio, writings, words, spoken word, dialogs, graphic collage and the art of fiction in language and literature.
Re: [HG] hg in the movies
Another eBay purchase eh? Colin Hill - Original Message - From: Gabriel Orgrease To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:19 PM Subject: [HG] hg in the movies The Polish movie With Fire and Sword, Ogniem i Mieczem directed by Jerzy Hoffman, available on a 2 DVD set from our local library (USA, Long Island), has a nobleman in 17th century shown at beginning of the 2nd DVD playing a hurdy-gurdy to entertain his troops while they sit out in a wood. Unfortunate though the instrument is quickly used to bash someone in the head -- showing I assume another use for the instrument than to scare cats and dogs. But the sound is really quite clear though possibly I imagine it went through several post-performance filters in the edit of the movie. Either that or the 17th century Poles/Ukranians had really good ears. -- Orgrease-Crankbait Video, audio, writings, words, spoken word, dialogs, graphic collage and the art of fiction in language and literature.
Re: [HG] Musical house.
As to the quality of the wire: inconsistent diameter would not matter as much if strings are played open only. The main problem comes when fretting a string that is false, particularly if the frets are fixed. Of course, true strings would surely sound better. Regards, Leonard Williams _ [: :] / | | \ | | | | (_==_) !~¿ On 2/17/08 12:42 PM, Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I was wondering where they got the strings from. I came across a similar stumbling block some years ago when trying to restring an old piano. In the UK, you were unable to buy the piano wire on a roll unless you were a member of the piano tuner's union. I could, however, go to Southern Ireland where I could buy it without restriction. I daresay the quality of the wire would not need to be that good provided that it was tensile enough and there are many constructions that use high-grade steel wire (single strand). Of course, wound wire is another matter. I have had problems getting banjo strings long enough to fit a long-arm banjo for years now and had many blank looks when asking how long are the strings to the sales assistant. 5-string banjo strings ( 2nd and 3rd) are usually just too short for the job. Colin Hill - Original Message - From: Nathan Roy To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: RE: [HG] Musical house. Hmm... I'd like to know how they managed to find music-quality strings in the lengths needed for these instruments. I've been researching the trumpet marine (which is at least somewhat related to the hurdy-gurdy, as it probably inspired the trompette string) for a while now, and one frustration has been the limited scaling options. My hope was that 'cello and double bass strings were produced on enormous spools in the factory, and cut up only further down the line, but so far I've had no luck finding a source that allows me to bypass that last step. Gut is limited by the length of a sheep's intestine to something around six feet, and there doesn't seem to be any other kind of string for bowed instruments available in custom lengths. I guess it would be a good idea to contact these people for more information. For some reason, I've been working under the assumption that makeshift materials such as monofilament fishing line and aircraft wire are not made to high enough tolerances of uniformity, and would respond poorly to a bow, but perhaps I'm just being ridiculous there. Incidentally, since the strings in these instruments vibrate up and down their length rather than side to side, the wheel in a hurdy-gurdy adaptation should probably be mounted at ninetly degrees to the standard design, almost like my silly vertical bow idea. Also, there may be no way to activate a trompette bridge with longitudinal compression waves. Interesting stuff, at any rate... Nathan Roy Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:06:45 -0700 To: hg@hurdygurdy.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HG] Musical house. That's pretty amazing. It reminds me of something I heard some years ago called The Long String Instrument, http://www.newalbion.com/NA102/ . Great if you like drones. Juan I got this link from another list I am on (bowed Psaltery) and, as it uses rosin to sound, thought the list members may be interested. Do watch the movies, the sound is amazing. Now, if we could add a wheel and trompette.. http://www.symphonichouse.com/ Colin Hill -- Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. Play now!
Re: [HG] hg in the movies
Colin wrote: Another eBay purchase eh? Colin: It is very very short... don't spend more than a cup of tea/coffee for it. The Polish movie With Fire and Sword, Ogniem i Mieczem directed by Jerzy Hoffman, available on a 2 DVD set from our local library (USA, Long Island), has a nobleman in 17th century shown at beginning of the 2nd DVD playing a hurdy-gurdy to entertain his troops while they sit out in a wood. Unfortunate though the instrument is quickly used to bash someone in the head -- showing I assume another use for the instrument than to scare cats and dogs. But the sound is really quite clear though possibly I imagine it went through several post-performance filters in the edit of the movie. Either that or the 17th century Poles/Ukranians had really good ears. -- Orgrease-Crankbait http://orgrease-crankbait.blogspot.com/ Video, audio, writings, words, spoken word, dialogs, graphic collage and the art of fiction in language and literature.
Re: [HG] Musical house.
Leonard Williams wrote: As to the quality of the wire I seem to remember on the website there was a credit to the developer of the custom manufactured wire for the strings. It may be in the architect's narrative portion. -- Orgrease-Crankbait http://orgrease-crankbait.blogspot.com/ Video, audio, writings, words, spoken word, dialogs, graphic collage and the art of fiction in language and literature.
[HG] New Rainbow Island: Hurdy Gurdy Daibouken!! Part 2
I pressed send before I got to tell you what the game is all about. The last line is the bestTaito and Digital Whip's New Rainbow Islands Hurdy Gurdy Daibouken, otherwise known as Rainbow Islands Evolution for the Sony PlayStation Portable in North America, places us back in Bub and Bob's boots for another set of adventures in Rainbow Islands. And this time around, the menace that ol' Bubby and Bobby have to thwart is a villainous record company called Million Records. Million Records has apparently expanded to every nook and cranny of the music industry, completely dominating the market. The music they sell is completely generic and soulless, and the songwriters writing their hits are held against their own will and forced to adhere to the "Million Hit Manual." What's more, the music itself is transforming Rainbow Islands to something less pleasant,and it's up to pals Bub and Bob to kick Major Seven's evil-scheming butt with their rainbow-making "hurdy gurdies."
Re: [HG] hg in the movies
Hi! I tried to find more on why the hobo and the hurdy gurdy were added to the original story, and didn't come up with much. I did find a comment on http://www.everythingdulcimer.com/ that said: Tom Hanks is another very accomplished musician. He plays guitar. He also has a interesting side note in that he owns and plays a Hurdy Gurdy (not the monkey organ grinder thing, but a true hurdy gurdy). If you have seen The Polar Express, you might have recognized that the hobo on top of the train was playing a hurdy gurdy. Side note: during filming they made wire mock ups of everything the actors would interact with for the animation. Tom asked the prop guys to mock up a hurdy gurdy, and of course they had no idea what he was talking about. After a bit of internet research they did his mock up). -Paul Bostick, Stillwater Oklahoma So perhaps it was Tom Hanks that wanted the hurdy gurdy included in the movie. I also found a credit for Russell Johnsen on fiddle hurdy-gurdy (is he on this list??? - could he maybe provide more details?). Best regards, -Gary P. Michael Gaschler wrote: Although I am sure most on the list are well aware of it, the gurdy gets a nice spot in the most recent make of The Polar Express. It's unfortunate that it is being played by a creepy bum and is thereby cast into an unpleasant light.
[HG] New Rainbow Island: Hurdy Gurdy Daibouken!!
There is a Hurdy Gurdy Pinball machine by Gottlieb.There are Hurdy Gurdys in Movies. Sting played a Hurdy Gurdy for the Oscars and now ..Well it finally happend. We now have a Hurdy Gurdy video game for the Sony PSP calledNew Rainbow Island: Hurdy Gurdy Daibouken!! You can buy it here with the cool Hurdy Gurdy playing characters on the box coverhttp://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9f-49-en-70-1rev.html$20 shipped from Hong Kong I believe.Or you can buy it at Best buy with the box with out the HG's on the cover for $40http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8723321type=producttab=7id=1200703056703#productdetailYou can read a review herehttp://www.gamesetwatch.com/2007/02/rainbow_islands_goes_hurdy_gur.phpAnd if you go here and then click on "images" you can down load your very own copy of Bubby and Bobby playing their Hurdy Gurdyshttp://www.gamespot.com/psp/action/newrainbowislandhurdygurdydaibouken/checkprices.htmlWill they replace the Smurfs on Maxou's Bleton HG?And here you can download your own large copy of the game box cover http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/psp/image/937014.htmlHave funr.t.
Re: [HG] hg in the movies
Although I am sure most on the list are well aware of it, the gurdy gets a
nice spot in the most recent make of The Polar Express. It's unfortunate
that it is being played by a creepy bum and is thereby cast into an
unpleasant light.
On Feb 17, 2008 3:39 PM, Gabriel Orgrease [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Colin wrote:
Another eBay purchase eh?
Colin: It is very very short... don't spend more than a cup of tea/coffee
for it.
The Polish movie With Fire and Sword, Ogniem i Mieczem directed by Jerzy
Hoffman, available on a 2 DVD set from our local library (USA, Long Island),
has a nobleman in 17th century shown at beginning of the 2nd DVD playing a
hurdy-gurdy to entertain his troops while they sit out in a wood.
Unfortunate though the instrument is quickly used to bash someone in the
head -- showing I assume another use for the instrument than to scare cats
and dogs. But the sound is really quite clear though possibly I imagine it
went through several post-performance filters in the edit of the movie.
Either that or the 17th century Poles/Ukranians had really good ears.
--
Orgrease-Crankbait http://orgrease-crankbait.blogspot.com/ Video, audio,
writings, words, spoken word, dialogs, graphic collage and the art of
fiction in language and literature.
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Re: [HG] New Rainbow Island: Hurdy Gurdy Daibouken!! Part 2
that's so awesome!! I want to try this game. Veronique 2008/2/17, R.T. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I pressed send before I got to tell you what the game is all about. The last line is the best... . Taito http://pspupdates.qj.net/tags/taito/4995 and Digital Whip's New Rainbow Islands Hurdy Gurdy Daibouken, otherwise known as Rainbow Islands Evolutionhttp://pspupdates.qj.net/category/Rainbow-Islands-Evolution/cid/3060for the Sony http://pspupdates.qj.net/tags/sony/880 PlayStation Portable in North America, places us back in Bub and Bob's boots for another set of adventures in Rainbow Islands. And this time around, the menace that ol' Bubby and Bobby have to thwart is a villainous record company called Million Records. Million Records has apparently expanded to every nook and cranny of the music industry, completely dominating the market. The music they sell is completely generic and soulless, and the songwriters writing their hits are held against their own will and forced to adhere to the Million Hit Manual. What's more, the music itself is transforming Rainbow Islands to something less pleasant, and it's up to pals Bub and Bob to kick Major Seven's evil-scheming butt with their rainbow-making hurdy gurdies. -- Véronique Chau J.D. Candidate, 2009 George Mason School of Law Arlington, VA USA Telephone: (949) 701-7454 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
