Re: [hibernate-dev] HBX-1193 (oracle) reverse engineering of UniqueConstraint annotation for function-based indexes

2018-10-23 Thread Graham Collinson
Apologies for the empty email last time

https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HBX-1193

Hi,

I've submitted a pull request for this issue.
Is there anything more I need to do or could help with to close this one
off?

Thanks,
Graham
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[hibernate-dev] NoORM IRC meeting minutes

2018-10-23 Thread Guillaume Smet
Hi,

Here are the minutes of our IRC meeting:
15:20 < jbott> Meeting ended Tue Oct 23 13:20:49 2018 UTC.  Information
about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
15:20 < jbott> Minutes:
http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2018/hibernate-dev.2018-10-23-13.00.html
15:20 < jbott> Minutes (text):
http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2018/hibernate-dev.2018-10-23-13.00.txt
15:20 < jbott> Log:
http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2018/hibernate-dev.2018-10-23-13.00.log.html

Cheers,

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Guillaume
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Chat migration - D minus 115 until the death of HipChat

2018-10-23 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Thanks for starting this!

The choice of IRC is a bit special on the list as we never intended it
to be killed: it has been historically important and we should
maintain some level of reachability on it.  So voting for the "IRC"
choice just means a preference to not use anything else on top of it,
while alternatively we'' be using X on top of IRC, albeit with a
preference to use X for team conversations.

Also good to remind: please try to be on IRC as well occasionally as
many in the OSS community we integrate with will reach out there.

Thanks,
Sanne

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 09:46, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> TL;DR: please vote here if you don't want to end up having to use a chat
> tool you don't like: https://doodle.com/poll/h6scc9bsh6a4ymre
>
> HipChat Cloud will stop working on February 15th, 2019 [1]. We need to
> choose an alternative before we have our back against the wall, so I'll try
> to resurrect the conversation.
>
> As a reminder, Stride is no longer an option: Atlassian cancelled the
> project, and encourages users to migrate to Slack.
>
> The discussed options so far were:
>
>- *Moving back to IRC*. Aye: ?; nay: ?
>Pros: simple as hell.
>Cons: basic as hell; we won't keep the chat history.
>- *Migrating to Slack* [6], as suggested by Atlassian [2]. Aye:
>Christian B; Nay: ?
>Pros: we will keep the chat history (I think).
>Cons: not open-source; desktop client consumes a lot of resources.
>- *Migrating to Zulip* [3]. Aye: Emmanuel, Yoann. Nay: Guillaume (kind
>of).
>Pros: Advanced conversation management thanks to the "topics" feature.
>Cons: Complex to use because of the "topics" feature; we won't keep the
>chat history (1).
>- *Migrating to Gitter* [5] (we'll create different rooms, probably).
>Aye: ?, Nay: ?
>Pros: Users seem to actually go there, so we could have our "live
>support" rooms next to our "internal discussion" rooms.
>Cons: not open-source; we won't keep the chat history (1).
>
> I created a poll based on the discussion we had on the thread
> "[hibernate-dev] Stride". I think everyone had the time to suggest another
> option.
>
> Please vote here and now, or remain silent forever ;):
> https://doodle.com/poll/h6scc9bsh6a4ymre
>
> I'd suggest the following rules: if there's a single clear winner (a
> platform that everyone would be happy with), we'll pick that one. If there
> are multiple clear winners, whoever does the migration work will pick
> what's easier to set up (taking into account the various integrations).
> Otherwise, back to discussing it on this thread...
>
> (1) There seems to be some work in progress on a migration tool from
> HipChat to Zulip, but it doesn't seem to be ready yet [4]
>
> [1]
> https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack/faq#faq-da2b66a1-53d3-4c4e-a405-467d961336f7
> [2] https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack/migration
> [3] https://hibernate.zulipchat.com/
> [4] https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/10647
> [5] https://gitter.im/hibernate/hibernate-orm
> [6] https://slackdemo.com/
>
> Yoann Rodière
> Hibernate NoORM Team
> yo...@hibernate.org
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[hibernate-dev] Chat migration - D minus 115 until the death of HipChat

2018-10-23 Thread Yoann Rodiere
Hi,

TL;DR: please vote here if you don't want to end up having to use a chat
tool you don't like: https://doodle.com/poll/h6scc9bsh6a4ymre

HipChat Cloud will stop working on February 15th, 2019 [1]. We need to
choose an alternative before we have our back against the wall, so I'll try
to resurrect the conversation.

As a reminder, Stride is no longer an option: Atlassian cancelled the
project, and encourages users to migrate to Slack.

The discussed options so far were:

   - *Moving back to IRC*. Aye: ?; nay: ?
   Pros: simple as hell.
   Cons: basic as hell; we won't keep the chat history.
   - *Migrating to Slack* [6], as suggested by Atlassian [2]. Aye:
   Christian B; Nay: ?
   Pros: we will keep the chat history (I think).
   Cons: not open-source; desktop client consumes a lot of resources.
   - *Migrating to Zulip* [3]. Aye: Emmanuel, Yoann. Nay: Guillaume (kind
   of).
   Pros: Advanced conversation management thanks to the "topics" feature.
   Cons: Complex to use because of the "topics" feature; we won't keep the
   chat history (1).
   - *Migrating to Gitter* [5] (we'll create different rooms, probably).
   Aye: ?, Nay: ?
   Pros: Users seem to actually go there, so we could have our "live
   support" rooms next to our "internal discussion" rooms.
   Cons: not open-source; we won't keep the chat history (1).

I created a poll based on the discussion we had on the thread
"[hibernate-dev] Stride". I think everyone had the time to suggest another
option.

Please vote here and now, or remain silent forever ;):
https://doodle.com/poll/h6scc9bsh6a4ymre

I'd suggest the following rules: if there's a single clear winner (a
platform that everyone would be happy with), we'll pick that one. If there
are multiple clear winners, whoever does the migration work will pick
what's easier to set up (taking into account the various integrations).
Otherwise, back to discussing it on this thread...

(1) There seems to be some work in progress on a migration tool from
HipChat to Zulip, but it doesn't seem to be ready yet [4]

[1]
https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack/faq#faq-da2b66a1-53d3-4c4e-a405-467d961336f7
[2] https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack/migration
[3] https://hibernate.zulipchat.com/
[4] https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/10647
[5] https://gitter.im/hibernate/hibernate-orm
[6] https://slackdemo.com/

Yoann Rodière
Hibernate NoORM Team
yo...@hibernate.org
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