[Hibernate] commons logging

2005-07-27 Thread Simon Kitching
Hi,

I was recently informed of this thread about memory leaks occurring on
undeploy with hibernate and saw a fair bit of criticism on
commons-logging.

I have written a counter-argument which is available here: 
  http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/Logging/UndeployMemoryLeak

I hope you find this information useful. All feedback on this is very
welcome.

Regards,

Simon




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Re: [Hibernate] commons logging

2005-07-27 Thread Christian Bauer

I was recently informed of this thread about memory leaks occurring on
undeploy with hibernate and saw a fair bit of criticism on
commons-logging.



Btw, it would be great if someone could look into replacing commons  
logging with Log4j and providing a JDK 1.4 appender for Log4j.




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Re: [Hibernate] commons logging

2005-07-27 Thread Christian Bauer


On Jul 27, 2005, at 2:11 PM, Simon Kitching wrote:

Did you read the page I wrote? It's saying that provided that  
hibernate

and/or the container (eg jboss) uses commons-logging correctly there's
no need to move away from it. [1]


I personally don't care about what you wrote... sorry. We are always  
trying to reduce dependencies in Hibernate and we actually discussed  
exactly what I mentioned over a year ago. It's just that nobody had  
time to look into it. Nothing to do with memory leaks or anything.




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Re: [Hibernate] commons logging

2005-07-27 Thread Barry Hawkins
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Christian Bauer wrote:
[...]
 I don't see any integration problems without commons logging as 
 virtually everybody is using Log4j. Another solution would be a  simple
 Delegate (implemented dynamically typed) in Hibernate and a 
 configuration option. In the end we could remove one JAR dependency  on
 almost all installations of Hibernate I guess.
[...]
One thing to consider with using the JDK 1.4 logging implementation is
that everyone forced to run on WebSphere Application Server 5.0.x is
stuck with a 1.3 JDK.

Thanks,
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RE: [Hibernate] commons logging

2005-07-27 Thread Steve Ebersole
We are talking about moving to log4j...


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Christian Bauer wrote:
[...]
 I don't see any integration problems without commons logging as 
 virtually everybody is using Log4j. Another solution would be a
simple
 Delegate (implemented dynamically typed) in Hibernate and a 
 configuration option. In the end we could remove one JAR dependency
on
 almost all installations of Hibernate I guess.
[...]
One thing to consider with using the JDK 1.4 logging implementation is
that everyone forced to run on WebSphere Application Server 5.0.x is
stuck with a 1.3 JDK.

Thanks,
- --
Barry Hawkins
All Things Computed
site: www.alltc.com
weblog: www.yepthatsme.com

Registered Linux User #368650
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