Re: [Histonet] Ab Validation

2010-04-05 Thread Dana Settembre
We have started saving these since the NEW question came up in June of
2009.


Dana Settembre, HT ASCP
Immunohistochemistry Lab
UMDNJ - University Hospital
Newark, NJUSA


 Laurie Colbert laurie.colb...@huntingtonhospital.com 04/02/10
11:19 AM 
When you validate a new antibody or a new antibody lot, do you save
the
slides or just the paperwork (validation report from pathologist) for
future inspection purposes?

 

Laurie Colbert

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[Histonet] Histobath

2010-04-05 Thread Matthew Mincer
Does anyone know the normal operating temperature of the Thermo 
Histobath? A customer has asked me to repair theirs and I want to make 
sure I get the temp correct.


Thanks
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[Histonet] Happy Easter!

2010-04-05 Thread mohamed abd el razik
Dear histonetters
I wish to you, Happy Holidays with a lot of peace and health!

dr.Mohamed Abd el razik
Histology Dep.
Faculty of Vet. Med.
Cairo University- Egypt


  
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Re: [Histonet] Histobath

2010-04-05 Thread Malika Benatti
Hi Matt,

Depending on the wax melting point which should be around 57 degree Celsius,
your water bath should be set at 50 degree Celsius.

Hope this help.

Malika Benatti BSc MIBMS
Specialist Biomedical Scientist
Great Ormond Street Children Hospital
London, WC1N 3JH
UK

Tel: (+44) 0207 4059200 Ext 5475
ben...@gosh.nhs.uk




On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Matthew Mincer m...@techoneweb.com wrote:

 Does anyone know the normal operating temperature of the Thermo
 Histobath? A customer has asked me to repair theirs and I want to make sure
 I get the temp correct.

 Thanks
 Matt

 --
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 PMB163
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 office  (708) 383-6040 X 10
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[Histonet] Histobath part 2

2010-04-05 Thread Matthew Mincer
I forgot to mention, this Histobath I am talking about is the one with a 
refrigerated tank. You fill the tank with a liquid (I forget what the 
chemical is) and use it to quick-freeze tissue to be cut in a cryostat.


Peace
Matt

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Re: [Histonet] Histobath part 2

2010-04-05 Thread Lynette Pavelich
Matt,
I have a copy of the instructional/operational manual from my histobath
that we purchased in 1994 from Shandon-Lipshaw.  The specifications for
its lowest temperature is -60C.  The liquid that is used is
2-methylbutane (isopentane).  

I can fax you a copy if it would help.

Lynette

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Histology Supervisor
MSH Competency Coordinator
Hurley Medical Center
One Hurley Plaza
Flint, MI  48503
email: lpave...@hurleymc.com
ph:  810-257-9948
Lab:  810-257-9138
fax:  810-762-7082


 Matthew Mincer m...@techoneweb.com 4/5/2010 8:56 AM 
I forgot to mention, this Histobath I am talking about is the one with
a 
refrigerated tank. You fill the tank with a liquid (I forget what the 
chemical is) and use it to quick-freeze tissue to be cut in a
cryostat.

Peace
Matt

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Re: [Histonet] Histobath

2010-04-05 Thread Malika Benatti
Sorry for that Matt,

In this case the internal temperature of the cryostat chamber should be set
at -20 to -22 degree Celsius, not sure what would the actual temperature of
the histobath itself but our thermo scientific cryostat has the following
settings:

   - the cryobar is set at -18 Degree Celsius,
   - the Cryo chamber at - 22 degree Celsius.


Hope this help

Malika Benatti

Malika Benatti BSc MIBMS
Specialist Biomedical Scientist
Great Ormond Street Children Hospital
London, WC1N 3JH
UK

Tel: (+44) 0207 4059200 Ext 5475
ben...@gosh.nhs.uk
- Show quoted text -

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Matthew Mincer m...@techoneweb.com wrote:

 Thanks, but the Histobath I was talking about is a freezing device for
 cryostats.

 Matt

 Malika Benatti wrote:

 Hi Matt,

 Depending on the wax melting point which should be around 57 degree
 Celsius, your water bath should be set at 50 degree Celsius.

 Hope this help.

 Malika Benatti BSc MIBMS
 Specialist Biomedical Scientist
 Great Ormond Street Children Hospital
 London, WC1N 3JH
 UK

 Tel: (+44) 0207 4059200 Ext 5475
 ben...@gosh.nhs.uk mailto:ben...@gosh.nhs.uk





 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Matthew Mincer m...@techoneweb.commailto:
 m...@techoneweb.com wrote:

Does anyone know the normal operating temperature of the Thermo
Histobath? A customer has asked me to repair theirs and I want to
make sure I get the temp correct.

Thanks
Matt

-- Matthew Mincer
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159 N Marion Street
PMB163
Oak Park, IL 60301
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cell(708) 822-3738


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RE: [Histonet] 72644.18148...@web111105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com

2010-04-05 Thread Mahoney,Janice A
Talk about politically incorrect.  Pregnant, out of wedlock 16 year olds?  
Are you kidding me?  Seriously AB?
Jan


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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 7:42 PM
To: Andrew Burgeson; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] 72644.18148...@web05.mail.gq1.yahoo.com

I've seen lab get accredited one month, only to have CLIA come through the
next month and rip that lab apart. I have been through CAP inspections that
consisted of the inspector looking only at slides while he checked off the
checklist to inspectors carrying their own thermometers and testing the temp
of the paraffin baths on the tissue processors. This is supposed to be a
peer review, often it's a witch hunt. I had one CAP team leader tell me that
my lab was the last lab he was going to inspect because he dropped out of
CAP and went with JCAHO, which was approved by his hospital administrator.
Does anyone know why CAP split the processing and grossing parts anyway?
I thought it was a stupid idea in the first place. But then again, I've
never been known to be politically correct

Joe
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Subject: [Histonet] 72644.18148...@web05.mail.gq1.yahoo.com


 Sheesh is right, J.

 CAP is all politics as far as I am concerned. It is all
 about protecting the careers and paychecks of the general
 pathology community.

 I am thouroughly unimpressed with JCAHO, CAP et al.

 If all you need to legally run a laboratory is to be CLIA
 inspected, then WHY BOTHER with these subjective entities?


 The BS I have heard over the last few months concerning MOHS
 surgery specimens is one glaring example of the limitations
 CAP has in understanding fully certain nuances of the lab
 trade.

 Ridiculous. Unless you want the marketing and potential
 perception that you are better covered from a legal
 standpoint, CAP certs are worthless.

 The more I hear about CAP certifications, the more I see it
 as a certain community of individuals who are protecting
 their perceived TURF.

 In the end, the pathologists in the group and in the
 facility in which you are working have to take
 responsibility for these matters. If the docs think a CAP
 cert is necessary, then do it and live with it. If not, then
 consider yourself lucky to not have to see these people in
 your lab.

 I have been through MANY CAP inspections in and out of the
 military. For the most part, though, I see people paying
 this organization to inspect their lab as the same thing as
 burning a pinch of incense in honor of great Caesar, ruler
 of Rome. It will get you some kudos, but tangibly not
 change much at all if your pathologists or HR $ hiring hands
 want to pocket more $ as a result of hiring pregnant out of
 wedlock 16 year olds to gross tissue and cut slides.

 Seen it.

 AB

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RE: [Histonet] RCC

2010-04-05 Thread Bernice Frederick
RCC from Novacastra (Leica)


Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
Northwestern University
Pathology Core Facility
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Subject: [Histonet] RCC

What are people using for a Renal cell Carcinoma. ( this is a test )

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[Histonet] RE: CD5

2010-04-05 Thread McMahon, Loralee A
High pH Retrieval for 20 minutes in the PT module

20 minute incubation of CD5
15 minute mouse linker
20 Minute incubation Flex HRP
10 minute DAB
5 minute Hematoxylin


Loralee McMahon, HTL (ASCP)
Immunohistochemistry Supervisor
Strong Memorial Hospital
Department of Surgical Pathology
(585) 275-7210

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Can anyone share thier protocol for CD5. We use the Dako platform. Thanks

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[Histonet] Choosing Carousel Style Tissue Processors

2010-04-05 Thread Parsons, Catherine

I am in the process of selecting a new tissue processor for my lab, and have 
narrowed the search to two models.   Both are carousel style tissue processors. 
 We are a small, low volume research lab, so the carousel style fits well with 
our processing and space needs.  I would appreciate any information/opinions  
that anyone has about these two models and manufacturers.  Major lab equipment 
purchases seem to be on a 20 year cycle here, so I need to choose carefully and 
well!

My choices are the Leica TP 1020 and the Thermo Scientific Microm STP 120 Spin 
tissue processor.

Has anyone found the spin function on the Microm unit to be useful, or just 
another part to break down and need replacement?

Thanks in advance for any information that you can offer.


Cathy Parsons
cpars...@vt.edu


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[Histonet] RE: CD5

2010-04-05 Thread Dawson, Glen
Jeff,

Thermo Scientific (Formally NeoMarkers) CD5 (Clone SP19):  Catalogue# 
RM-9119-S.  

Concentration of 1:75 diluted w/Dako diluent.  

Antigen Retrieval: PH6.0 Citrate Target Retrieval (DAKO) for 35 min. @ 99 
degrees C, followed by a 20 min. room temp. cool down.

35 minute primary antibody application.

30 minute Envision+ polyclonal (DAKO) secondary antibody detection.

7 minute DAB+ (DAKO).

Counter-stain as you like.

Results on this antibody are excellent.


Best of Luck,

Glen Dawson  BS, HT  QIHC (ASCP)
IHC Manager
Milwaukee, WI

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[Histonet] 72644.18148...@web111105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com

2010-04-05 Thread Andrew Burgeson
The point is not about gender, as I stated before...

It's about a person's health risks and lack of training
overlooked for the sake of labor. TYVM



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Re: [Histonet] 72644.18148...@web111105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com

2010-04-05 Thread Mark Tarango
When I was 16 years-old I was grossing in the lab.  We had
very busy pathologists (busy reading slides) who thought it was okay to
train their courier (me at the time) to gross.  I had already been there
handing them bottles and closing cassette lids for several months.

When we had our first CLIA inspection, they had me intial and sign paperwork
saying that I had grossed so many cases of various specimen types under
patholgist supervision and had been grossing so long.  The problem was that
I was only a high school graduate at the time.  They then changed direction
and told the inspectors that the pathologists did all the grossing.

Just brings back memories.  Thought I'd share.

Mark Tarango
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Andrew Burgeson nap...@siscom.net wrote:

 The point is not about gender, as I stated before...

 It's about a person's health risks and lack of training
 overlooked for the sake of labor. TYVM



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[Histonet] Histology Stories

2010-04-05 Thread Breeden, Sara
To all of you who sent me your how did I get started in histology
stories, I have not forgotten you! I am making all your contributions
into one document and although I have about a dozen left to transcribe,
if you will contact me DIRECTLY at nmhi...@comcast.net, I will send you
the entire document when I finish it.  Taken as a whole, it's pretty
amazing/interesting/involved/riveting!  Please do NOT contact me via
Histonet - use my home email as above.  My plan is to submit the stories
to NSH to use as a tool for recruiting (it seems that most of us got our
start through karma!).

 

Sally Breeden, HT(ASCP)

NM Dept. of Agriculture

Veterinary Diagnostic Services

PO Box 4700

Albuquerque, NM  87106

505-841-2576

 

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Re: [Histonet] 72644.18148...@web111105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com

2010-04-05 Thread Malika Benatti
I am very confuse reading every email reply to this tread also I would be
really grateful if someone could enlighten with regard to what is the
comment practice in the US.

Having been trained as a histotechnologist although we are call Specialist
Biomedical Scientist in the UK, we cannot practice unless we are fully
registered with the Health Professional Council HPC, which I believe has the
same role as the ASCP. Every 2 years we may be audited a demonstrate that we
fully comply with HPC regulation and CPD or lose or registration. All
laboratories are accredited by the Clinical Pathology Accreditation CPA
under the international organization for standardization legislation (ISO
15189).

Laboratory accreditation happen every 2 years cycle for which the laboratory
has to comply with a set of standard.
During inspection accessor review everything with a fine tooth comb, and
score you some of the issues may just be minors but they will always get you
with a critical issue, which you will have a set amount of time to correct,
they will then return and verify that all non compliance and critical issues
have been address before giving you CPA accreditation status.

Having a 16 years old out of school with little experience in histology and
no formal training grossing specimen is never heard off, only Register
Biomedical Scientist are allowed to do small biopsies, Advance Practitioner,
Trainee Pathologist, will be involved in the grossing of lager specimens,
and tumour specimens.




On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Mark Tarango marktara...@gmail.com wrote:

 When I was 16 years-old I was grossing in the lab.  We had
 very busy pathologists (busy reading slides) who thought it was okay to
 train their courier (me at the time) to gross.  I had already been there
 handing them bottles and closing cassette lids for several months.

 When we had our first CLIA inspection, they had me intial and sign
 paperwork
 saying that I had grossed so many cases of various specimen types under
 patholgist supervision and had been grossing so long.  The problem was that
 I was only a high school graduate at the time.  They then changed direction
 and told the inspectors that the pathologists did all the grossing.

 Just brings back memories.  Thought I'd share.

 Mark Tarango
 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Andrew Burgeson nap...@siscom.net
 wrote:

  The point is not about gender, as I stated before...
 
  It's about a person's health risks and lack of training
  overlooked for the sake of labor. TYVM
 
 
 
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[Histonet] Histotech Position in Bay Area is Still Open.

2010-04-05 Thread Erik Dokken
On Assignment Healthcare is currently looking for a Histo Tech for a contract 
assignment here in the Bay Area.

This assignment would start ASAP and will be for an indefinite period of time 
as it is to covering for a leave of absence.

Hours are: Monday through Friday, 5:30am to 2:00pm.

For additional information please contact me via email.

Erik Dokken
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   2. Histobath (Matthew Mincer)
   3. Happy Easter! (mohamed abd el razik)
   4. Re: Histobath (Malika Benatti)
   5. Histobath part 2 (Matthew Mincer)
   6. Re: Histobath part 2 (Lynette Pavelich)
   7. Re: Histobath (Malika Benatti)
   8. RE: 72644.18148...@web05.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Mahoney,Janice A)
   9. RE: RCC (Bernice Frederick)
  10. RE: CD5 (McMahon, Loralee A)
  11. Choosing Carousel Style Tissue Processors (Parsons, Catherine)
  12. RE: CD5 (Dawson, Glen)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:30:51 -0400
From: Dana Settembre sette...@umdnj.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ab Validation
To: Laurie Colbert laurie.colb...@huntingtonhospital.com,
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Message-ID: sbb983a4@smtpnpc.umdnj.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

We have started saving these since the NEW question came up in June of
2009.


Dana Settembre, HT ASCP
Immunohistochemistry Lab
UMDNJ - University Hospital
Newark, NJUSA


 Laurie Colbert laurie.colb...@huntingtonhospital.com 04/02/10
11:19 AM 
When you validate a new antibody or a new antibody lot, do you save
the
slides or just the paperwork (validation report from pathologist) for
future inspection purposes?



Laurie Colbert

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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:37:56 -0500
From: Matthew Mincer m...@techoneweb.com
Subject: [Histonet] Histobath
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Does anyone know the normal operating temperature of the Thermo
Histobath? A customer has asked me to repair theirs and I want to make
sure I get the temp correct.

Thanks
Matt

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159 N Marion Street
PMB163
Oak Park, IL 60301
office  (708) 383-6040 X 10
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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:46:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: mohamed abd el razik k8...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Histonet] Happy Easter!
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Dear histonetters
I wish to you, Happy Holidays with a lot of peace and health!

dr.Mohamed Abd el razik
Histology Dep.
Faculty of Vet. Med.
Cairo University- Egypt




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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:47:08 +0100
From: Malika Benatti malbena...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Histobath
To: Matthew Mincer m...@techoneweb.com
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Hi Matt,

Depending on the wax melting point which should be around 57 degree Celsius,
your water bath should be set at 50 degree Celsius.

Hope this help.

Malika Benatti BSc MIBMS
Specialist Biomedical Scientist
Great Ormond Street Children Hospital
London, WC1N 3JH
UK

Tel: (+44) 0207 4059200 Ext 5475
ben...@gosh.nhs.uk




On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Matthew Mincer m...@techoneweb.com wrote:

 Does anyone know the normal operating temperature of the Thermo
 Histobath? A customer has asked me to repair theirs and I want to make sure
 I get the temp correct.

 Thanks
 Matt

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[Histonet] Sakura E300 TP

2010-04-05 Thread Carlos Rodriguez, MD
Hi All

For those of you who use or have used a Sakura E300 TP, what has your
experience and overall impression been? I'm particularly interested in input
from anyone who has worked with a refurbished E300, including how well it
has held up (or not) compared to more recent model TPs. Any maintenance
issues, malfunction problems, etc that stand out? I would be using it for a
skin specimens only.

Thanks very much!! Have a great day

Carlos
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[Histonet] Amyloid Stain

2010-04-05 Thread Drew Meyer
Hey Guys,

I was hoping to get some help with the best way to approach a request for an
amyloid stain.  The only thing I've ever done in the past is the traditional
Congo Red... however we were wondering how the Amyloid A Immuno stain is.
Our pathologists were wondering if the Amyloid A is more/less reliable and
if there are any limitations associated with this antibody.  I just don't
know that much about it and was hoping you guys could enlighten me!  Thanks
for the help!

Drew
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RE: [Histonet] Amyloid Stain

2010-04-05 Thread Sebree Linda A
Drew,

At one time we were going to bring this stain in-house (Amyloid A) but
finding positive control material was problematic.  One of our
pathologists remembered a case from more than 20 years ago (and had
documented it!) but it was still just a tiny renal biopsy.  We found
that ProPath (214-237-1894, www.propath.com ) does this antibody so we
gave them some of our renal biopsy and since then have sent our cases to
them for staining.


Linda A. Sebree
University of Wisconsin Hospital  Clinics
IHC/ISH Laboratory
DB1-223 VAH
600 Highland Ave.
Madison, WI 53792
(608)265-6596


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Drew
Meyer
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:38 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Amyloid Stain

Hey Guys,

I was hoping to get some help with the best way to approach a request
for an amyloid stain.  The only thing I've ever done in the past is the
traditional Congo Red... however we were wondering how the Amyloid A
Immuno stain is.
Our pathologists were wondering if the Amyloid A is more/less reliable
and if there are any limitations associated with this antibody.  I just
don't know that much about it and was hoping you guys could enlighten
me!  Thanks for the help!

Drew
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[Histonet] Histo position in Seattle Wa.

2010-04-05 Thread Ken Pierce
Med Lab Assoc. in Seattle Wa. is looking for a full time tech with
experience in cutting, embedding. special stains and IHC.  We are a
growing lab and plan to expand into new areas of pathology/molecluar
biology as well as our association with a highly regarded Clinical lab.
Position is Mom-Fri., 6 AM to 2:30 PM.  If   interested contact me  at
kpie...@cancer-test.com or at 206-623-3814 between 10 AM and 5 PM
Pacific daylight savings time.  Ken Pierce. lab supervisor
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[Histonet] Histo Stories, Part 2

2010-04-05 Thread Breeden, Sara
PLEASE send requests for the histo stories to my HOME EMAIL ADDRESS -
not via Histonet!!!  nmhi...@comcast.net.  Thank you!

 

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Re: [Histonet] 72644.18148...@web111105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com

2010-04-05 Thread Bryan Llewellyn
Comparing the situations in different countries can be very confusing.  I 
traied in the UK (many years ago) and have lived in Canada for a long time, 
but I do have some (limited) information about the US system.


First off, Medical Laboratory Technology in the UK and Canada includes 
histotechnology as one of the integral subject areas, but the US does not. 
Histotechnology is a standalone subject there, by and large.


The ASCP is different from the Health Professional Council (used to be 
Council for professions supplementary to medicine when I lived there).  That 
is a licensing body, and its function is carried out by some state agencies 
(in the US) and some provincial agencies (in Canada).  However, not all 
states and provinces require licensing to work as a medical laboratory 
technologist/histotechnologist.  The ASCP used to run the commonest US 
qualifying exams (still do ??, I am not sure) and kept a registry of 
qualified technologists, although there are others systems.  In Canada it is 
done by the CSMLS (Canadian Society for Medical Laboratory Sciences).  The 
equivalent organisation in the UK is the IBMS (Institute of Biomedical 
Sciences).


In Canada it is possible to take specialty training in a subject area at 
both initial level and post initial level.  So you can be an RT (Registered 
Technologist) in medical laboratory technology generally, or an RT in 
cytology or electron microscopy as examples.  All RTs can take advanced 
examinations as general or specialist technologists, depending on their 
initial RT status.  There used to be a third level (Fellowship in the CSMLS) 
but it was abandoned because so few technologists took it.  That was about 
the same level as the UK three part exam.  An applicable BSc is now required 
in Canada to advance post RT.


As to 16 year olds in labs.  I started work in the UK in Hackney six days 
before my 17th birthday in 1960.  A month later I was doing haemoglobins by 
finger stick with Hagedorn needles, ESRs and going around the wards.  A year 
later I was well versed in clinical chemistry (urea, glucose, bilirubin, 
alkaline phosphatases etc - all done manually with what passed for micro 
methods in those days.  Students like me did about 80% of the work in those 
days because the profession was expanding so fast due to the introduction of 
the public health care system in Britain.  Things change, and that just 
would not be allowed today.  I suspect that 16 year olds doing grossing is 
very unusal and in the US would likely be viewed as an invitation for the 
pathologists to be sued.  Remember, it was April 1st!


In the US the CAP (College of American Pathologists) is involved in an 
accreditation system with other agencies.  In Canada the CAP (Canadian 
Association of Pathologists) is a player in some accrediatation systems, but 
in Canada health care is legally a provincial responsibility, so 
accreditation is done by provincial agencies for each province.  That is 
also the reason licensing varies from province to province here.  Our 
country wide qualifying system by the CSMLS is a fortunate anomoly that 
nobody wants to change because it works so well for us.


I hope this explains a little.

Bryan Llewellyn

- Original Message - 
From: Malika Benatti malbena...@googlemail.com

To: Mark Tarango marktara...@gmail.com
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Andrew Burgeson 
nap...@siscom.net

Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] 72644.18148...@web05.mail.gq1.yahoo.com



I am very confuse reading every email reply to this tread also I would be
really grateful if someone could enlighten with regard to what is the
comment practice in the US.

Having been trained as a histotechnologist although we are call Specialist
Biomedical Scientist in the UK, we cannot practice unless we are fully
registered with the Health Professional Council HPC, which I believe has 
the
same role as the ASCP. Every 2 years we may be audited a demonstrate that 
we

fully comply with HPC regulation and CPD or lose or registration. All
laboratories are accredited by the Clinical Pathology Accreditation CPA
under the international organization for standardization legislation (ISO
15189).

Laboratory accreditation happen every 2 years cycle for which the 
laboratory

has to comply with a set of standard.
During inspection accessor review everything with a fine tooth comb, and
score you some of the issues may just be minors but they will always get 
you
with a critical issue, which you will have a set amount of time to 
correct,
they will then return and verify that all non compliance and critical 
issues

have been address before giving you CPA accreditation status.

Having a 16 years old out of school with little experience in histology 
and

no formal training grossing specimen is never heard off, only Register
Biomedical Scientist are allowed to do small biopsies, Advance 
Practitioner,

Trainee Pathologist, will be involved in 

Re: [Histonet] 72644.18148...@web111105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com

2010-04-05 Thread Malika Benatti
Bryan,

Thanks for your details explanation on what look to be a very different
system.
Though something I am confused with an maybe you or someone else can clarify
this for me.

In the UK to be allow to practice as a Biomedical Scientist in any
laboratory discipline, you need of have a Accredited Hons Degree, and
undergo your HPC registration, Specialist status is only acquire after
passing the part 2 of the HPC registration (this is pretty new ).

Most of fully qualify Specialist Biomedical Scientist have also Post
Graduate qualifications.

Now I am reading right that not all the histotechnologist in the US are ASCP
registered ?
Is the ASCP registration not a Mendatory requirement to practice as a
histotechnologist ?
Does the registration rules vary from states to states?

Cheers

Malika





On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Bryan Llewellyn llewl...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Comparing the situations in different countries can be very confusing.  I
 traied in the UK (many years ago) and have lived in Canada for a long time,
 but I do have some (limited) information about the US system.

 First off, Medical Laboratory Technology in the UK and Canada includes
 histotechnology as one of the integral subject areas, but the US does not.
 Histotechnology is a standalone subject there, by and large.

 The ASCP is different from the Health Professional Council (used to be
 Council for professions supplementary to medicine when I lived there).  That
 is a licensing body, and its function is carried out by some state agencies
 (in the US) and some provincial agencies (in Canada).  However, not all
 states and provinces require licensing to work as a medical laboratory
 technologist/histotechnologist.  The ASCP used to run the commonest US
 qualifying exams (still do ??, I am not sure) and kept a registry of
 qualified technologists, although there are others systems.  In Canada it is
 done by the CSMLS (Canadian Society for Medical Laboratory Sciences).  The
 equivalent organisation in the UK is the IBMS (Institute of Biomedical
 Sciences).

 In Canada it is possible to take specialty training in a subject area at
 both initial level and post initial level.  So you can be an RT (Registered
 Technologist) in medical laboratory technology generally, or an RT in
 cytology or electron microscopy as examples.  All RTs can take advanced
 examinations as general or specialist technologists, depending on their
 initial RT status.  There used to be a third level (Fellowship in the CSMLS)
 but it was abandoned because so few technologists took it.  That was about
 the same level as the UK three part exam.  An applicable BSc is now required
 in Canada to advance post RT.

 As to 16 year olds in labs.  I started work in the UK in Hackney six days
 before my 17th birthday in 1960.  A month later I was doing haemoglobins by
 finger stick with Hagedorn needles, ESRs and going around the wards.  A year
 later I was well versed in clinical chemistry (urea, glucose, bilirubin,
 alkaline phosphatases etc - all done manually with what passed for micro
 methods in those days.  Students like me did about 80% of the work in those
 days because the profession was expanding so fast due to the introduction of
 the public health care system in Britain.  Things change, and that just
 would not be allowed today.  I suspect that 16 year olds doing grossing is
 very unusal and in the US would likely be viewed as an invitation for the
 pathologists to be sued.  Remember, it was April 1st!

 In the US the CAP (College of American Pathologists) is involved in an
 accreditation system with other agencies.  In Canada the CAP (Canadian
 Association of Pathologists) is a player in some accrediatation systems, but
 in Canada health care is legally a provincial responsibility, so
 accreditation is done by provincial agencies for each province.  That is
 also the reason licensing varies from province to province here.  Our
 country wide qualifying system by the CSMLS is a fortunate anomoly that
 nobody wants to change because it works so well for us.

 I hope this explains a little.

 Bryan Llewellyn

 - Original Message - From: Malika Benatti 
 malbena...@googlemail.com
 To: Mark Tarango marktara...@gmail.com
 Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Andrew Burgeson 
 nap...@siscom.net
 Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] 72644.18148...@web05.mail.gq1.yahoo.com


  I am very confuse reading every email reply to this tread also I would be
 really grateful if someone could enlighten with regard to what is the
 comment practice in the US.

 Having been trained as a histotechnologist although we are call Specialist
 Biomedical Scientist in the UK, we cannot practice unless we are fully
 registered with the Health Professional Council HPC, which I believe has
 the
 same role as the ASCP. Every 2 years we may be audited a demonstrate that
 we
 fully comply with HPC regulation and CPD or lose or registration. All
 laboratories are 

Re: [Histonet] Amyloid Stain

2010-04-05 Thread Richard Cartun
I find IHC for amyloid A (AA) helpful only in kidney; however, it is not 
requested often.

Richard

Richard W. Cartun, Ph.D.
Director, Histology  Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs
Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology
Hartford Hospital
80 Seymour Street
Hartford, CT  06102
(860) 545-1596 Office
(860) 545-2204 Fax


 Drew Meyer 41dm...@gmail.com 4/5/2010 2:37 PM 
Hey Guys,

I was hoping to get some help with the best way to approach a request for an
amyloid stain.  The only thing I've ever done in the past is the traditional
Congo Red... however we were wondering how the Amyloid A Immuno stain is.
Our pathologists were wondering if the Amyloid A is more/less reliable and
if there are any limitations associated with this antibody.  I just don't
know that much about it and was hoping you guys could enlighten me!  Thanks
for the help!

Drew
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[Histonet] CD34 marker for Rat tisue

2010-04-05 Thread dusko trajkovic




Does anyone have a protocol or any information on CD34 antibody that works on 
FFPE rat tissue?
 
Thank you
Dusko Trajkovic
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[Histonet] iNOS/nitrotyrosine antibody

2010-04-05 Thread Fabrice GANKAM

Dear All
Looking for the best possible iNOS and nitrotyrosine antibodies that work
with rat brain tissue on paraffin section
I used the one from chemicon in the past but results were not so great
I also use the one from labvision with disappointing results.
Any help ?

Thanks 
Dr Fabrice GANKAM 

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De : histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] De la part de Bryan
Llewellyn
Envoyé : lundi 5 avril 2010 21:37
À : Histonet; malbena...@gmail.com
Objet : Re: [Histonet] 72644.18148...@web05.mail.gq1.yahoo.com

Comparing the situations in different countries can be very confusing.  I 
traied in the UK (many years ago) and have lived in Canada for a long time, 
but I do have some (limited) information about the US system.

First off, Medical Laboratory Technology in the UK and Canada includes 
histotechnology as one of the integral subject areas, but the US does not. 
Histotechnology is a standalone subject there, by and large.

The ASCP is different from the Health Professional Council (used to be 
Council for professions supplementary to medicine when I lived there).  That

is a licensing body, and its function is carried out by some state agencies 
(in the US) and some provincial agencies (in Canada).  However, not all 
states and provinces require licensing to work as a medical laboratory 
technologist/histotechnologist.  The ASCP used to run the commonest US 
qualifying exams (still do ??, I am not sure) and kept a registry of 
qualified technologists, although there are others systems.  In Canada it is

done by the CSMLS (Canadian Society for Medical Laboratory Sciences).  The 
equivalent organisation in the UK is the IBMS (Institute of Biomedical 
Sciences).

In Canada it is possible to take specialty training in a subject area at 
both initial level and post initial level.  So you can be an RT (Registered 
Technologist) in medical laboratory technology generally, or an RT in 
cytology or electron microscopy as examples.  All RTs can take advanced 
examinations as general or specialist technologists, depending on their 
initial RT status.  There used to be a third level (Fellowship in the CSMLS)

but it was abandoned because so few technologists took it.  That was about 
the same level as the UK three part exam.  An applicable BSc is now required

in Canada to advance post RT.

As to 16 year olds in labs.  I started work in the UK in Hackney six days 
before my 17th birthday in 1960.  A month later I was doing haemoglobins by 
finger stick with Hagedorn needles, ESRs and going around the wards.  A year

later I was well versed in clinical chemistry (urea, glucose, bilirubin, 
alkaline phosphatases etc - all done manually with what passed for micro 
methods in those days.  Students like me did about 80% of the work in those 
days because the profession was expanding so fast due to the introduction of

the public health care system in Britain.  Things change, and that just 
would not be allowed today.  I suspect that 16 year olds doing grossing is 
very unusal and in the US would likely be viewed as an invitation for the 
pathologists to be sued.  Remember, it was April 1st!

In the US the CAP (College of American Pathologists) is involved in an 
accreditation system with other agencies.  In Canada the CAP (Canadian 
Association of Pathologists) is a player in some accrediatation systems, but

in Canada health care is legally a provincial responsibility, so 
accreditation is done by provincial agencies for each province.  That is 
also the reason licensing varies from province to province here.  Our 
country wide qualifying system by the CSMLS is a fortunate anomoly that 
nobody wants to change because it works so well for us.

I hope this explains a little.

Bryan Llewellyn

- Original Message - 
From: Malika Benatti malbena...@googlemail.com
To: Mark Tarango marktara...@gmail.com
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Andrew Burgeson 
nap...@siscom.net
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] 72644.18148...@web05.mail.gq1.yahoo.com


I am very confuse reading every email reply to this tread also I would be
 really grateful if someone could enlighten with regard to what is the
 comment practice in the US.

 Having been trained as a histotechnologist although we are call Specialist
 Biomedical Scientist in the UK, we cannot practice unless we are fully
 registered with the Health Professional Council HPC, which I believe has 
 the
 same role as the ASCP. Every 2 years we may be audited a demonstrate that 
 we
 fully comply with HPC regulation and CPD or lose or registration. All
 laboratories are accredited by the Clinical Pathology Accreditation CPA
 under the international organization for standardization legislation (ISO
 15189).

 Laboratory accreditation happen every 2 years cycle for which the 
 laboratory
 has to comply with a set of standard.
 During inspection accessor review everything 

RE: [Histonet] Removal of carbon pigment

2010-04-05 Thread Tony Henwood
Muhammad,

Unfortunately you are stuck with the carbon.

No technique (short of removing the cells/tissue section) will remove
the carbon.

Regards

Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC)
Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
Tel: 612 9845 3306
Fax: 612 9845 3318
the children's hospital at westmead 
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead 
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA 




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Hellow all.
We have received CT guided FANA smears from lung .The siles are full of
carbon particles that mask the under histiocytes and granulomata.W
require the removal of carbor particles.Kindly help out to remove them.


Muhammad Tahseen
Supervisor Histology

Javed uz zaman
Supervisor Cytology

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[Histonet] Re: Amyloid Stain

2010-04-05 Thread Robert Richmond
I'd interpret a request for an amyloid stain as just that - rather
than immunohistochemistry.

Congo red is of course the traditional dye for staining amyloid. It's
long been out of use in the textile industry, and apparently is
manufactured in small quantities for histologic use, and is certified
by the Biological Stain Commission as an amyloid stain. I'm not
certain it's still in manufacture.

Holde Puchtler introduced Sirius red as a substitute for Congo red in
the 1970's, and it still has some vogue. Once again it may not be in
manufacture.

Dick Dapson at Anatech (www.anatechltdusa.com - I have no connection
with them) introduced Amyloid Red (Direct red 72, C.I. 29200) as an
amyloid stain. He describes it as rather similar to Congo red. I
haven't seen it - has anyone? You can get it from Anatech.

Examination of a dye stain for amyloid requires a polarization system
(and no, I don't mean a pair of broken sun glasses in the desk
drawer), and if the pathologist doesn't have access to a polarizer
(many of us don't) you probably ought to be sending out your amyloid
stains.

Finally, control material is hard to get. (The best controls I've seen
in recent years have been sections of medullary thyroid carcinomas.)
Supposedly undeparaffinized sections don't keep for more than a month,
so that the control block may need to be recut for each occasional
use, obviously an unthrifty procedure.

I've asked this question several times over the years and never got an
answer. It's fairly easy to produce amyloidosis in laboratory animals.
Why isn't animal material available for controls?

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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Re: [Histonet] Cleaning VIP Processor containers

2010-04-05 Thread Anthony Reilly
Hi Brandi
 
Do you do hot water flushes? If not the film will be a build up of the buffer 
salts from your formalin.  To flush replace your formalin containers with hot 
water and write a program to run each container for 10-15 minutes.  This will 
not only clean the retorts but the fluid lines as well.  This should be done 
weekly or at least monthly if time is an issue.
 
regards
Tony
 
 
 
 

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