[Histonet] Proteolytic enzyme pretreatment before immunostaining

2012-07-31 Thread Young Kwun
Dear Histonetters,

Could anyone explain about the difference between proteolytic enzymes
for immuostaining? 

We use enzyme pretreatment rarely nowadays, and apart from some
ready-to-use one (Dako's Proteinase K), I have used Protease (Sigma)
previously when I did manual staining.

At the moment I am using Leica's BondMax autostainer and their enzyme
pretreatment kit (Trypsin ??, usually one drop per 7 ml vial). I know
the pretreatment condition would be affected by the concentration of
enzymes, pH, temperature, incubation time etc.

 

My question is that do they have different mode of action on tissues? I
am helping a research project and our antibody includes various clones
of Integrin 6 subunit and uPAR.

I have tried enzyme pretreatment with autostainer and manual staining
with Proteinase K (Dako). It seems that some antibodies work better with
certain enzymes. 

I mean that some antibodies work well after BondMax enzyme treatment,
but some antibody works better with proteinase K pretreatment manually.
I am using the same polymer detection system (Leica Microsystem) for
both methods.

I would like to find an enzyme which works for both of our antibodies at
the same time.

Thank you.

 

 

 

Young Kwun

Senior Hospital Scientist

Immunohistochemistry

Dept. of Anatomical Pathology

Concord Repatriation General Hospital

Concord NSW 2139 Australia

 

02-9767-6075 (Tel)

02-9767-8427 (Fax)

young.k...@sswahs.nsw.gov.au

 

 

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Re: [Histonet] Proteolytic enzyme pretreatment before immunostaining

2012-07-31 Thread William Chappell
Enzyme pretreatment, and all steps in epitope retrieval, should follow the same 
quality control steps as antibody incubation and antibody concentration.

Enzyme pretreatment is not magic, however the kinetics involved are very 
difficult to predict.  Epitopes are typically chemical shapes within tertiary 
protein structure, however they can involve secondary structure and quartinary 
structure.  The purpose of enzyme pretreatment is to get the right epitope in 
the right configuration so it can be recognized by the antibody.  Heat 
retrieval is meant to break formalin cross linkages, but enzyme pretreatment 
actually eats away at part of the protein (depending on the protease).

Too little protease treatment and it does nothing, too much and the epitope is 
destroyed.

The bottom line, novel antibodies need to be validated with numerous retrieval 
methods.  If it is deemed that a protease is better, numerous times and 
numerous concentrations should be tried -- even at different temperatures.  
Finally, there is no reason to believe that different novel antibodies will 
require the same pretreatment, however, a  common pretreatment may be 
sufficient (though possibly not optimal) for each antibody.

One last thing, if you know more about the nature of the antigen used to create 
the antibody, you may be able to predict the required pretreatment -- talk to 
the primary investigator.

Will Chappell, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Anatomic Pathology Supervisor
Children's Hospital of Orange County

On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Young Kwun wrote:

 Dear Histonetters,
 
 Could anyone explain about the difference between proteolytic enzymes
 for immuostaining? 
 
 We use enzyme pretreatment rarely nowadays, and apart from some
 ready-to-use one (Dako's Proteinase K), I have used Protease (Sigma)
 previously when I did manual staining.
 
 At the moment I am using Leica's BondMax autostainer and their enzyme
 pretreatment kit (Trypsin ??, usually one drop per 7 ml vial). I know
 the pretreatment condition would be affected by the concentration of
 enzymes, pH, temperature, incubation time etc.
 
 
 
 My question is that do they have different mode of action on tissues? I
 am helping a research project and our antibody includes various clones
 of Integrin 6 subunit and uPAR.
 
 I have tried enzyme pretreatment with autostainer and manual staining
 with Proteinase K (Dako). It seems that some antibodies work better with
 certain enzymes. 
 
 I mean that some antibodies work well after BondMax enzyme treatment,
 but some antibody works better with proteinase K pretreatment manually.
 I am using the same polymer detection system (Leica Microsystem) for
 both methods.
 
 I would like to find an enzyme which works for both of our antibodies at
 the same time.
 
 Thank you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Young Kwun
 
 Senior Hospital Scientist
 
 Immunohistochemistry
 
 Dept. of Anatomical Pathology
 
 Concord Repatriation General Hospital
 
 Concord NSW 2139 Australia
 
 
 
 02-9767-6075 (Tel)
 
 02-9767-8427 (Fax)
 
 young.k...@sswahs.nsw.gov.au
 
 
 
 
 
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