RE: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk

2002-03-24 Thread Dynerman David M

I find Window XP (professional) perfectly fine for development (I used
win2k for 2 years before using XP now)

david

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Sigh... everyone and their windows advice...  REFORMAT! REFORMAT!

First, get windows 2000. not XP, not 98, not ME.

Second, CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF, you DONT need to wipe your whole HD.
Just kill off
the Windows folder, and re-install. All your apps will still be there
in C:\program
files

-av

Dynerman David M wrote:

 I doubt you have Windows installed over the 11 partitions.

 In fact, your setup makes it EASIER to reformat. Just backup and wipe
 the windows partition, and leave the other ones alone.

 Now on the other hand, if you had one 80gb partition, then you'd be
 hosed because you'd have to reformat the entire thing.

 On a separate note, if you did need to backup 80 gigs, IMHO the best
 solution is to buy a 20 or 40 gig drive, backup the stuff you need and
 then blast the 80 gig. Cheaper then 2,000 CD-R's, and faster too.

 david

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 From: Philip (Fiber) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:05 AM
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 Subject: RE: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk

 I am already aware of the MS demons inside my PC, but read my last
post.

 Good luck getting me to reformat, I got 80gigs (on 11 partitions) of
 stuff with the only back-up medium being CD-R's (how screwed I am if
 something trashes my HDD). Maybe I should get some sort of backup
 system, h, a DVD-RAM could double as a backup drive AND a
 DVD-burner. ;)

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  Specifically the errors go like this -
 
  LINK : fatal error LNK2023: bad dll or entry point
 

'msobj10.dll'!'?FCreateReader@IDebugSSectionReader@@SA_NPAEIPAPAV1@K@Z'
  Error executing link.exe.

 Dude!  You've got demons or something inside your PC.  :)

 Uninstall and reinstall MSVC or (even better), reformat your hard disk
 and
 reinstall Windows and all your apps again.

 Jeffrey botman Broome

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Re: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk

2002-03-24 Thread botman

 Sigh... everyone and their windows advice...  REFORMAT! REFORMAT!

 First, get windows 2000. not XP, not 98, not ME.

 Second, CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF, you DONT need to wipe your whole HD. Just
 kill off the Windows folder, and re-install. All your apps will still be
there
 in C:\program files

Yes, but the Windows Registry that holds all of the yummy application settings,
options and serial numbers will be lost.  It would be wise to make a backup of
USER.DAT and SYSTEM.DAT before wiping out your Windows partions.  Also some
screwy applications (like Outlook) store all of the application data in obscure
Windows folders (like Windows\Application
Data\{BR549_OTHER_SCREWY_CRAP_HERE}\BLAH\BLAH).

God, I hate the way Windows stores things!  BRING BACK .INI FILES!!!  :)

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Re: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk

2002-03-24 Thread Lord Booga

Amen. Windows 2000 is the best of the lot.


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Subject: Re: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk


 Sigh... everyone and their windows advice...  REFORMAT! REFORMAT!

 First, get windows 2000. not XP, not 98, not ME.

 Second, CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF, you DONT need to wipe your whole HD.
Just kill off
 the Windows folder, and re-install. All your apps will still be there in
C:\program
 files

 -av

 Dynerman David M wrote:

  I doubt you have Windows installed over the 11 partitions.
 
  In fact, your setup makes it EASIER to reformat. Just backup and wipe
  the windows partition, and leave the other ones alone.
 
  Now on the other hand, if you had one 80gb partition, then you'd be
  hosed because you'd have to reformat the entire thing.
 
  On a separate note, if you did need to backup 80 gigs, IMHO the best
  solution is to buy a 20 or 40 gig drive, backup the stuff you need and
  then blast the 80 gig. Cheaper then 2,000 CD-R's, and faster too.
 
  david
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Philip (Fiber) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:05 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk
 
  I am already aware of the MS demons inside my PC, but read my last post.
 
  Good luck getting me to reformat, I got 80gigs (on 11 partitions) of
  stuff with the only back-up medium being CD-R's (how screwed I am if
  something trashes my HDD). Maybe I should get some sort of backup
  system, h, a DVD-RAM could double as a backup drive AND a
  DVD-burner. ;)
 
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  Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:35 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk
 
   Specifically the errors go like this -
  
   LINK : fatal error LNK2023: bad dll or entry point
  
  'msobj10.dll'!'?FCreateReader@IDebugSSectionReader@@SA_NPAEIPAPAV1@K@Z'
   Error executing link.exe.
 
  Dude!  You've got demons or something inside your PC.  :)
 
  Uninstall and reinstall MSVC or (even better), reformat your hard disk
  and
  reinstall Windows and all your apps again.
 
  Jeffrey botman Broome
 
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RE: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk

2002-03-24 Thread Michael Shimmins

I'm running WinXP Pro with VS .net and am having no problems what so
ever.  The only problem I had was installing the 64 bit drivers for my
video card, then realising what I had done :( (I don't have a 64 bit
processor).

Oh well, that wasn't Windows XP's fault anywho.

Michael Shimmins
The Absconder Effect (http://www.tae-mod.com)

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Yeah, when I did a clean install of XP (during the Beta's) I only had to
re-install some programs, most worked fine straight off.

-Philip

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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk

Not true. Quite a few programs work perfectly even after having the
registry wiped.

Neat trick with Windows 2000 is to backup your user profile, delete and
reinstall windows, then copy your backed up profile OVER the new one...
you get to keep all your settings, and the registry is intact! (most of
it).


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk


 It won't really matter if all of your programs are still installed,
your
 windows registry will be wiped and you will still have to re-install
all
of
 them.

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  From: [DRP]Avatar-X [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk
 
 
   Sigh... everyone and their windows advice...  REFORMAT!
REFORMAT!
  
   First, get windows 2000. not XP, not 98, not ME.
  
   Second, CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF, you DONT need to wipe your
whole
HD.
  Just kill off
   the Windows folder, and re-install. All your apps will still be
there
 in
  C:\program
   files
  
   -av
  
   Dynerman David M wrote:
  
I doubt you have Windows installed over the 11 partitions.
   
In fact, your setup makes it EASIER to reformat. Just backup and
wipe
the windows partition, and leave the other ones alone.
   
Now on the other hand, if you had one 80gb partition, then you'd
be
hosed because you'd have to reformat the entire thing.
   
On a separate note, if you did need to backup 80 gigs, IMHO the
best
solution is to buy a 20 or 40 gig drive, backup the stuff you
need
and
then blast the 80 gig. Cheaper then 2,000 CD-R's, and faster
too.
   
david
   
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From: Philip (Fiber) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk
   
I am already aware of the MS demons inside my PC, but read my
last
 post.
   
Good luck getting me to reformat, I got 80gigs (on 11
partitions) of
stuff with the only back-up medium being CD-R's (how screwed I
am if
something trashes my HDD). Maybe I should get some sort of
backup
system, h, a DVD-RAM could double as a backup drive AND a
DVD-burner. ;)
   
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botman
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk
   
 Specifically the errors go like this -

 LINK : fatal error LNK2023: bad dll or entry point

   

'msobj10.dll'!'?FCreateReader@IDebugSSectionReader@@SA_NPAEIPAPAV1@K@Z'
 Error executing link.exe.
   
Dude!  You've got demons or something inside your PC.  :)
   
Uninstall and reinstall MSVC or (even better), reformat your
hard
disk
and
reinstall Windows and all your apps again.
   
Jeffrey botman Broome
   
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Re: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk

2002-03-23 Thread botman

 Specifically the errors go like this -

 LINK : fatal error LNK2023: bad dll or entry point
 'msobj10.dll'!'?FCreateReader@IDebugSSectionReaderSA_NPAEIPAPAV1@KZ'
 Error executing link.exe.

Dude!  You've got demons or something inside your PC.  :)

Uninstall and reinstall MSVC or (even better), reformat your hard disk and
reinstall Windows and all your apps again.

Jeffrey botman Broome

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Re: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk

2002-03-21 Thread Jim Hunter

 what compilers can be used with the SDK, I
 would use VC++ but for some reason, it doesn't compile (errors etc.)

While I personally find BCB easier to use than VC++ for most stuff (personal bias), if 
you have VC++, I would recommend using it for Half-Life, since that's what the code 
was written with.  What kind of problems are you having?

Jim

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Re: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk

2002-03-21 Thread Jim Hunter

 LINK : fatal error LNK2023: bad dll or entry point
 'msobj10.dll'!'?FCreateReader@IDebugSSectionReaderSA_NPAEIPAPAV1@KZ'
Error executing link.exe.

That's a weird one.  I'm probably out of my depth here, but I'm going to go out on a 
limb.  I think that file (msobj10.dll) is corrupted; you need to reinstall VC++ or 
just replace that file.  Anyone with more knowledge than me, feel free to jump in.

Jim

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RE: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk

2002-03-21 Thread Philip (Fiber)

I took a look in the MSDN Library and it says that msobj10.dll is either
corrupted or out of date (strange that support.ms.com doesn't have error
message interpretation in it).
Anyway, after a quick look I got a newer version of the file, I get the
warning -
/PDBTYPE is no longer supported;  ignored

But that should be fine, no errors. However, on my way to fixing it, I
found an excellent resource - http://212.129.166.70/ (The Free-Dynamic
Link Library), it contains masses of DLL, OCX, SYS, VXD and a few other
system files. If you need something like that, go there.

Just though I'd tell you that.

-Philip Quinn

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 LINK : fatal error LNK2023: bad dll or entry point

'msobj10.dll'!'?FCreateReader@IDebugSSectionReader@@SA_NPAEIPAPAV1@K@Z'
Error executing link.exe.

That's a weird one.  I'm probably out of my depth here, but I'm going to
go out on a limb.  I think that file (msobj10.dll) is corrupted; you
need to reinstall VC++ or just replace that file.  Anyone with more
knowledge than me, feel free to jump in.

Jim

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Re: [hlcoders] [OT] Compiling the SDk

2002-03-20 Thread botman

 I'm kind of new to HL coding and that so expect a lot of questions from
 me. Anyway, I'm wondering what compilers can be used with the SDK, I
 would use VC++ but for some reason, it doesn't compile (errors etc.),
 but I was looking an Borland C++ Builder, would that work with the SDK?

See this thread...

http://list.valvesoftware.com/pipermail/hlcoders/2002-March/002244.html

Jeffrey botman Broome

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