Re: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-22 Thread Jason Houston
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Sure, while we are all speaking for ourselves. Tjoppen and I at BG2 are more
than willing to take time to merge code if it means reductions in the sort
of bugs the SDK comes with.

Also, a request for when you do actually release it. The blank SDK is still
riddled with intentionally broken things, for what looks like educational
purposes. Perhaps the blank one could come with those things working on
removed instead? Also, a basic melee weapon to base ones off of in it would
be good, seeing as the hl2 melee weapons rely heavily on hl2m code and are
hard to bring over


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Re: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-21 Thread bloodykenny
I'm worried that with such a tremendous delay between SDK updates, it's going 
to take days to merge the codebase.  Maybe I'm imagining more code thrash than 
there's actually been though.

At 2006/05/11 11:26 PM, Aaron Schiff wrote:
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He's lying!  The SDK is sufficient at the moment.

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Re: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-21 Thread Nick
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If the SDK update gave options for vs2005, gcc 4.0, worked with /Wall, and
fixes for all of the current sdk bugs. I would happily spend a month to
merge the codebase.

On 5/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I'm worried that with such a tremendous delay between SDK updates, it's
 going to take days to merge the codebase.  Maybe I'm imagining more code
 thrash than there's actually been though.

 At 2006/05/11 11:26 PM, Aaron Schiff wrote:
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 He's lying!  The SDK is sufficient at the moment.
 
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RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-13 Thread Jay C.
Oh thanks for the reply, so to use it with hldsupdatetool, do I add the
-beta engine to the srcds start up line with -autoupdate or do I add it to
the hldsupdatetool cmd line?

Sorry for being a pest.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
 Sent: 12 May 2006 19:18
 To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

 No, both the Steam UI and hldsupdatetool win32 dedicated server can
 participate in the Source Engine beta.

 - Alfred

 Jay C. wrote:
  The Linux Dedicated Server is not affected by this beta; Win32
  Dedicated
  Server is updated by this beta.
 
  Im guessing this means only the Steam contained srcds and not
  hldsupdatetool
  srcds right?
 
  It would be nice if you could display somewhere on the GUI that it
  has in
  fact loaded the beta engine.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Deakins
  Sent: 12 May 2006 01:05
  To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released
 
  This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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   We have enabled a beta version of the Source engine.  This ongoing
  beta will allow you to test new engine updates with your system's
  configuration.  It also allows mod makers to ensure a new engine drop
  will be compatible with their released games before it is made
  publicly available.
 
  To learn about the beta, please go read the Source Beta Engine page
  here: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Engine_Beta .
 
  Please let us know of any issues you find with the new engine by
  sending reports to this mailing list, or by joining the discussion
  on the Valve Developer Community.
 
  Thanks,
  -Jason
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RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-13 Thread Alfred Reynolds
Remove the -beta part of the command line.

Jay C. wrote:
 And how do I revert?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
 Sent: 13 May 2006 18:40
 To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

 Add it to the hldsupdatetool command line (just like other betas we
 have run with the dedicated server :)

 Jay C. wrote:
 Oh thanks for the reply, so to use it with hldsupdatetool, do I add
 the -beta engine to the srcds start up line with -autoupdate or do
 I add it to the hldsupdatetool cmd line?

 Sorry for being a pest.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
 Sent: 12 May 2006 19:18
 To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

 No, both the Steam UI and hldsupdatetool win32 dedicated server can
 participate in the Source Engine beta.

 - Alfred

 Jay C. wrote:
 The Linux Dedicated Server is not affected by this beta; Win32
 Dedicated Server is updated by this beta.

 Im guessing this means only the Steam contained srcds and not
 hldsupdatetool srcds right?

 It would be nice if you could display somewhere on the GUI that it
 has in fact loaded the beta engine.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Deakins
 Sent: 12 May 2006 01:05
 To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]

  We have enabled a beta version of the Source engine.  This
 ongoing beta will allow you to test new engine updates with your
 system's configuration.  It also allows mod makers to ensure a
 new engine drop will be compatible with their released games
 before it is made publicly available.

 To learn about the beta, please go read the Source Beta Engine
 page here:
 http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Engine_Beta .

 Please let us know of any issues you find with the new engine by
 sending reports to this mailing list, or by joining the
 discussion on the Valve Developer Community.

 Thanks,
 -Jason
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RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-13 Thread Jay C.
And how do I revert?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
 Sent: 13 May 2006 18:40
 To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

 Add it to the hldsupdatetool command line (just like other betas we have
 run with the dedicated server :)

 Jay C. wrote:
  Oh thanks for the reply, so to use it with hldsupdatetool, do I add
  the -beta engine to the srcds start up line with -autoupdate or do I
  add it to
  the hldsupdatetool cmd line?
 
  Sorry for being a pest.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
  Sent: 12 May 2006 19:18
  To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released
 
  No, both the Steam UI and hldsupdatetool win32 dedicated server can
  participate in the Source Engine beta.
 
  - Alfred
 
  Jay C. wrote:
  The Linux Dedicated Server is not affected by this beta; Win32
  Dedicated Server is updated by this beta.
 
  Im guessing this means only the Steam contained srcds and not
  hldsupdatetool srcds right?
 
  It would be nice if you could display somewhere on the GUI that it
  has in fact loaded the beta engine.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Deakins
  Sent: 12 May 2006 01:05
  To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released
 
  This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 
   We have enabled a beta version of the Source engine.  This ongoing
  beta will allow you to test new engine updates with your system's
  configuration.  It also allows mod makers to ensure a new engine
  drop will be compatible with their released games before it is
  made publicly available.
 
  To learn about the beta, please go read the Source Beta Engine page
  here: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Engine_Beta .
 
  Please let us know of any issues you find with the new engine by
  sending reports to this mailing list, or by joining the discussion
  on the Valve Developer Community.
 
  Thanks,
  -Jason
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RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-13 Thread Jay C.
Thanks =P

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
 Sent: 13 May 2006 19:10
 To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

 Remove the -beta part of the command line.

 Jay C. wrote:
  And how do I revert?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
  Sent: 13 May 2006 18:40
  To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released
 
  Add it to the hldsupdatetool command line (just like other betas we
  have run with the dedicated server :)
 
  Jay C. wrote:
  Oh thanks for the reply, so to use it with hldsupdatetool, do I add
  the -beta engine to the srcds start up line with -autoupdate or do
  I add it to the hldsupdatetool cmd line?
 
  Sorry for being a pest.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
  Sent: 12 May 2006 19:18
  To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released
 
  No, both the Steam UI and hldsupdatetool win32 dedicated server can
  participate in the Source Engine beta.
 
  - Alfred
 
  Jay C. wrote:
  The Linux Dedicated Server is not affected by this beta; Win32
  Dedicated Server is updated by this beta.
 
  Im guessing this means only the Steam contained srcds and not
  hldsupdatetool srcds right?
 
  It would be nice if you could display somewhere on the GUI that it
  has in fact loaded the beta engine.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Deakins
  Sent: 12 May 2006 01:05
  To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released
 
  This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 
   We have enabled a beta version of the Source engine.  This
  ongoing beta will allow you to test new engine updates with your
  system's configuration.  It also allows mod makers to ensure a
  new engine drop will be compatible with their released games
  before it is made publicly available.
 
  To learn about the beta, please go read the Source Beta Engine
  page here:
  http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Engine_Beta .
 
  Please let us know of any issues you find with the new engine by
  sending reports to this mailing list, or by joining the
  discussion on the Valve Developer Community.
 
  Thanks,
  -Jason
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Re: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-12 Thread Teddy

It's great that we have this feature, so we can make sure our mods
don't get broken by updates.

I hope this known issue gets fixed soon:
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Engine_Beta_Changelist#Current_Known_Issues

-Mods that were built off of HL2 will continue to run the publicly
released engine. Mods that were built off of CS:S, DoD:S, or HL2DM
will use the beta engine.

Anyone using a HL2DM codebase tested with it yet?

On 5/12/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Nominates everyone who suggested an SDK update to test the beta version of
Banhammer.


On 5/11/06, Adam amckern Mckern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Correct!


 --- Jorge Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is nice.
 
  But what we really want is an SDK update.
 

 
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RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-12 Thread Jay C.
The Linux Dedicated Server is not affected by this beta; Win32 Dedicated
Server is updated by this beta.

Im guessing this means only the Steam contained srcds and not hldsupdatetool
srcds right?

It would be nice if you could display somewhere on the GUI that it has in
fact loaded the beta engine.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Deakins
 Sent: 12 May 2006 01:05
 To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]

  We have enabled a beta version of the Source engine.  This ongoing beta
 will allow you to test new engine updates with your system's
 configuration.  It also allows mod makers to ensure a new engine drop
 will be compatible with their released games before it is made publicly
 available.

 To learn about the beta, please go read the Source Beta Engine page
 here: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Engine_Beta .

 Please let us know of any issues you find with the new engine by sending
 reports to this mailing list, or by joining the discussion on the Valve
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RE: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-12 Thread Alfred Reynolds
No, both the Steam UI and hldsupdatetool win32 dedicated server can
participate in the Source Engine beta.

- Alfred

Jay C. wrote:
 The Linux Dedicated Server is not affected by this beta; Win32
 Dedicated
 Server is updated by this beta.

 Im guessing this means only the Steam contained srcds and not
 hldsupdatetool
 srcds right?

 It would be nice if you could display somewhere on the GUI that it
 has in
 fact loaded the beta engine.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Deakins
 Sent: 12 May 2006 01:05
 To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]

  We have enabled a beta version of the Source engine.  This ongoing
 beta will allow you to test new engine updates with your system's
 configuration.  It also allows mod makers to ensure a new engine drop
 will be compatible with their released games before it is made
 publicly available.

 To learn about the beta, please go read the Source Beta Engine page
 here: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Engine_Beta .

 Please let us know of any issues you find with the new engine by
 sending reports to this mailing list, or by joining the discussion
 on the Valve Developer Community.

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Re: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-11 Thread Nick
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Thanks! Although, the changelog seems rather small?


Source Engine

   - Bloom (HDR level 1) supported on DX8 cards (previously, dx9-only)

?


On 5/11/06, Jason Deakins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 We have enabled a beta version of the Source engine.  This ongoing beta
 will allow you to test new engine updates with your system's
 configuration.  It also allows mod makers to ensure a new engine drop
 will be compatible with their released games before it is made publicly
 available.

 To learn about the beta, please go read the Source Beta Engine page
 here: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Engine_Beta .

 Please let us know of any issues you find with the new engine by sending
 reports to this mailing list, or by joining the discussion on the Valve
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Re: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-11 Thread Jorge Rodriguez

Jason Deakins wrote:

We have enabled a beta version of the Source engine.  This ongoing beta
will allow you to test new engine updates with your system's
configuration.  It also allows mod makers to ensure a new engine drop
will be compatible with their released games before it is made publicly
available.

To learn about the beta, please go read the Source Beta Engine page
here: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Engine_Beta .

Please let us know of any issues you find with the new engine by sending
reports to this mailing list, or by joining the discussion on the Valve
Developer Community.


This is nice.

But what we really want is an SDK update.

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Re: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-11 Thread Aaron Schiff
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He's lying!  The SDK is sufficient at the moment.

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Re: [hlcoders] FW: Source Beta Engine Released

2006-05-11 Thread Adam \amckern\ Mckern
Correct!


--- Jorge Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is nice.

 But what we really want is an SDK update.



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