Re: [hlds] Test
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Test successful. On 7/7/06, Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- I do what I can. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Test
Pong. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: 7. juli 2006 19:58 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Test ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes
I haven't read every single reply in this thread, however thought of suggesting something anyway :) The latest beta version of Mani (1.2 Beta N from memory) comes with hitbox location information that is meant to replace StatsmeMin. It might be worth taking this off, just for housekeeping sake, if not to solve the problems you have ;) I've removed it from my server and Psychostats still works fine. More of an FYI than an actual fix for you. Sorry Frazer :( Regards, Adam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frazer Sent: Monday, 3 July 2006 9:52 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes I agree - looks like mani - and definitely happens on a map change - I have had a full server tank on me at least 3 times now. Frustrating. I am now cutting back the tk protection options - because I think it may have to do with those silly freeze/burn bombs -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kingsley Foreman Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 7:33 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes it is mani doing it, if you remove that the servers are nice and stable. Kingsley - Original Message - From: Paladin82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes Here is my set up. Win2k3 DoD:S VAC, CVAR-X v1.0, SBS v1.1 Mani Admin Plugin v1.2BetaN, MetaMod:Source v1.2.3 The only time I notice a crash since the update is when one of the new maps loads right after the other. So for example if I load Colmar then Jagd I crash on Jagd, if I load Jagd then Colmar I crash on Colmar, now if I load Colmar then Anzio then Jagd or the opposite no problem. Also no errors in the logs and no I don't have access to the event logs. Very strange... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erling K. Sæterdal Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 11:13 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes You should see the callstack without the symbol files, but they will not show the source where it crashes ( but some asm ). And srcds does not ship with symbol files, offcourse that could come in handy at times:) But most of the time when srcds crashes its the plugin that does something wrong ( Im my xp at least ). Want a Basic Admin Tool for your Source server? http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=343034 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frazer Sent: 2. juli 2006 17:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes Well, your point about access to the Event Log on rented servers is very well taken and would prevents that approach, without the cooperation of the hoster. Now, my vs.net debugging is rusty - so I stand to be corrected but: do you not have to have the symbols file (.dpg or .dbg) accessible to vs.net in order to obtain the call stack frames, etc? Some mods ship with these files - but not all. (Which is to be expected, since apps compiled with debug are not quite as performant). I have not been able to locate a symbols file for srcds.exe - I don't think one is shipped. The vast majority of exceptions are trappable in exception handling blocks. Exception wrapping is a bit of a coding pain, to be sure, but eventually, as with all good coding practices, it become habit. Even if the server Event Log is not the best choice - dropping a simple It was me that bombed your server message in text file would go a long way to helping mod users isolate issues. It's not a criticism - it's just a suggestion. I don't think downloading, installing and figuring out VS.NET Express is something that a lot of server admins have the time or patience to work through. I don't think they should have to. greets, Frazer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erling K. Sæterdal Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 11:12 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes hehe, Well I'm sure we can get better at adding try/catch I certainly can. But adding any errors we find to event log would not be that helpful. As those admins who rent servers are likely not to have access to the event log ( Also I don't think admins are gonna check the event log for errors regarding their servers, their gonna check the server logs + admin tool logs ). So the challage is to get a meaning full error into there. And the reason i replyed, to make my previus email more clear. anyone should be able to find out what crashed their server ( as long as they can download the crash files from the srcds root folder). Simple download VS.net ( 2005 Express Edition is free, i assume it comes with a debuger ). Open
Re: [hlds] Test
Test Passed - Original Message - From: Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: [hlds] Test ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 07/07/2006 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Deat list?
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Re: [hlds] Test
Ah finally its back :D - Original Message - From: James Grimstead [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Test Test Passed - Original Message - From: Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: [hlds] Test ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 07/07/2006 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Test
-- -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] maybe there have just been no problems... ---Original Message--- From: Ook Date: 07/10/06 19:43:36 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] Test I think the mailing list is dead. There has been no traffic for a while now. - Original Message - From: Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:57 AM Subject: [hlds] Test ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- [ IMSTP.gif of type image/gif deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Test
Test success, mailing list seems to not have any traffic as of late. - Original Message - From: Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:57 AM Subject: [hlds] Test ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes
Adam Sando wrote: I haven't read every single reply in this thread, however thought of suggesting something anyway :) The latest beta version of Mani (1.2 Beta N from memory) comes with hitbox location information that is meant to replace StatsmeMin. It might be worth taking this off, just for housekeeping sake, if not to solve the problems you have ;) I've removed it from my server and Psychostats still works fine. More of an FYI than an actual fix for you. Sorry Frazer :( Regards, Adam By remove it you mean statsmemin right? coz i use beta n and hlstatsx on my cs:s server and it all works fine with statsme. how would i enable the mani hitbox option then? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Deat list?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] almost no traffic ;) On 7/9/06, Ook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the list dead? No traffic? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Test
I'm still getting stuff... not as much but it's still here. -Original Message- From: Adam Heath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:45 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] Test -- -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] maybe there have just been no problems... ---Original Message--- From: Ook Date: 07/10/06 19:43:36 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] Test I think the mailing list is dead. There has been no traffic for a while now. - Original Message - From: Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:57 AM Subject: [hlds] Test ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- [ IMSTP.gif of type image/gif deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Deat list?
No Traffic= very good! Jason Christof Vandewalle wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] almost no traffic ;) On 7/9/06, Ook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the list dead? No traffic? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Test
Test? I am here for ya. I have a lot of em know me and here is an off button on their small biz apps and networks..I think a 100$ bottle of scotch and a wtf flag went off thinking it could be either one..I guess just whichever stood in the game less enjoyable for all the games we have to use a hand truck to bring along Rockofizer On 7/7/06, Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Test
Yep your still here eric :) Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Deat list?
not very good. yes good, noone spams and asks things steampowered forums are for. but perhaps we're just too tired/weary (?) to say srctv isnt good enough and srcds on linux has memory leak still. and and and... Leo Jason schrieb: No Traffic= very good! Jason Christof Vandewalle wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] almost no traffic ;) On 7/9/06, Ook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the list dead? No traffic? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes
You disabled hitbox detection in Mani? I will try that. I still suspect the whacky TK protection options - especially the bombs - freeze, burn, etc. I turned all of these off and things were quite stable. Last night, I did a restore and put my old mani.cfg file in by mistake and they got turned back on. I was in a game when someone freeze-bombed another player and almost immediately after that, the server tanked. Maybe superstition - but I am going to leave them off for now. Cheers, Frazer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Sando Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 8:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes I haven't read every single reply in this thread, however thought of suggesting something anyway :) The latest beta version of Mani (1.2 Beta N from memory) comes with hitbox location information that is meant to replace StatsmeMin. It might be worth taking this off, just for housekeeping sake, if not to solve the problems you have ;) I've removed it from my server and Psychostats still works fine. More of an FYI than an actual fix for you. Sorry Frazer :( Regards, Adam ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes
Hey Frazer, I had exactly the same problem with freeze and fire bombs as part of Mani. Turning them on caused all sorts of random crashes. Not sure what this is caused by exactly... With the stats side of things, what I meant was that I removed StatsmeMin, and turned on all the advanced/verbose logging options within Mani. The Mani 1.2 beta comes standard with hitbox and weapon specific log information. You can check out my stats which are running off of Mani alone, here: http://www.teampoon.com/stats Regards, Adam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frazer Sent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 7:12 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes You disabled hitbox detection in Mani? I will try that. I still suspect the whacky TK protection options - especially the bombs - freeze, burn, etc. I turned all of these off and things were quite stable. Last night, I did a restore and put my old mani.cfg file in by mistake and they got turned back on. I was in a game when someone freeze-bombed another player and almost immediately after that, the server tanked. Maybe superstition - but I am going to leave them off for now. Cheers, Frazer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Sando Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 8:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes I haven't read every single reply in this thread, however thought of suggesting something anyway :) The latest beta version of Mani (1.2 Beta N from memory) comes with hitbox location information that is meant to replace StatsmeMin. It might be worth taking this off, just for housekeeping sake, if not to solve the problems you have ;) I've removed it from my server and Psychostats still works fine. More of an FYI than an actual fix for you. Sorry Frazer :( Regards, Adam ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Deat list?
No, it was dead. None of my messages appeared until this morning. I figure someone arrived at work, saw mail server dead, and rebooted something. I guess Valve people have lives also :-P - Original Message - From: milchworld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Deat list? not very good. yes good, noone spams and asks things steampowered forums are for. but perhaps we're just too tired/weary (?) to say srctv isnt good enough and srcds on linux has memory leak still. and and and... Leo Jason schrieb: No Traffic= very good! Jason Christof Vandewalle wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] almost no traffic ;) On 7/9/06, Ook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the list dead? No traffic? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
