Re: [hlds] Day of Defeat: Source Beta Dedicated Server
and I'm getting could not establish connection to steam servers is there something going on? changing steam.info version to 1.0.0.7 did nothing because my server doesn't even start Matt Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To fix your server not appearing in the server list, change your steam.inf to use version 1.0.0.7 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 1nsane . Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:16 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Day of Defeat: Source Beta Dedicated Server Valve needs to release another update for this... To get this fixed. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Greg Williams wrote: After MANY MANY attempts mine is also fuxored. I can connect an play on it just fine, but it still says out of date, and doesn't show on the server browser. - Original Message From: Timothy Sadleir To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 5:52:48 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Day of Defeat: Source Beta Dedicated Server My server is still out of date and I cannot update it to a correct version even with -verify_all. It still get's stuck at updating the srcds.exe and then loses connection... *Connection Reset, Winsock Error 10054 Connection reset by peer* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Day of Defeat: Source Beta Dedicated Server
nvm finally fixed it JDoc0512 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and I'm getting could not establish connection to steam servers is there something going on? changing steam.info version to 1.0.0.7 did nothing because my server doesn't even start Matt Boone wrote: To fix your server not appearing in the server list, change your steam.inf to use version 1.0.0.7 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 1nsane . Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:16 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Day of Defeat: Source Beta Dedicated Server Valve needs to release another update for this... To get this fixed. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Greg Williams wrote: After MANY MANY attempts mine is also fuxored. I can connect an play on it just fine, but it still says out of date, and doesn't show on the server browser. - Original Message From: Timothy Sadleir To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 5:52:48 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Day of Defeat: Source Beta Dedicated Server My server is still out of date and I cannot update it to a correct version even with -verify_all. It still get's stuck at updating the srcds.exe and then loses connection... *Connection Reset, Winsock Error 10054 Connection reset by peer* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoD:S Beta Sensitivity Cvars classified as cheat?
Clearly because VALVe said so. Argh, it's annoying - either classify every cvar as cheats, or only classify the cheat ones. It's getting annoying having every cvar classified as cheats one by one. \[ЯтR] The-/iller\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bazooka sensitivity is more than standard sensitivity even though the cvar looks as if it should be less, also why are the bazooka and mg sensitivity cvars classified as cheats? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoD:S Beta Sensitivity Cvars classified as cheat?
BETA. Here's an idea for you. Why don't you report the incorrect ones so that Valve can fix them? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly because VALVe said so. Argh, it's annoying - either classify every cvar as cheats, or only classify the cheat ones. It's getting annoying having every cvar classified as cheats one by one. \[ЯтR] The-/iller\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bazooka sensitivity is more than standard sensitivity even though the cvar looks as if it should be less, also why are the bazooka and mg sensitivity cvars classified as cheats? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoD:S Beta Sensitivity Cvars classified as cheat?
another idea would be to not touch any cvar Cc2iscooL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BETA. Here's an idea for you. Why don't you report the incorrect ones so that Valve can fix them? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly because VALVe said so. Argh, it's annoying - either classify every cvar as cheats, or only classify the cheat ones. It's getting annoying having every cvar classified as cheats one by one. \[Я?R] The-/ wrote: The bazooka sensitivity is more than standard sensitivity even though the cvar looks as if it should be less, also why are the bazooka and mg sensitivity cvars classified as cheats? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoD:S Beta Custom Tab woes start already
Christ...this custom tag BS blows. Its maddening that some dummy at valve thinks its a good idea and is refusing to just make a single tab with filter options. god almighty...just simply get in touch with people who play your games and f'ing LISTEN!!! [ЯтR] The-/iller wrote: We are in the midst of the Tf2 custom tab also... made a plugin to legally use visiblemaxplayers to get on the internet tab to help populate but cant really do that too well with FF Don Williams wrote: Welcome to OUR life ! :D *hugs* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daron Dodd Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:16 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] DoD:S Beta Custom Tab woes start already its not a bug its a feature, welcome to custom tab dods and css! On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:09 PM, [ЯтR] The-/iller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So friendlyfire gets you put on the custom tab, what sense does that make? Could these issues be put to a valve survey to see what the people want? We already dealt with the custom tab nearly destroying our TF2 community now your trying to take what little stake we have left in dods and css, why do you hate server ops valve? please do tell ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 3:36 PM ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition
Please reply to this if you support a single tab with filter options rather than the current custom tab system. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoD:S Beta Custom Tab woes start already
and people don't believe when I say valve did this to save bandwidth and money Timothy L Havener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christ...this custom tag BS blows. Its maddening that some dummy at valve thinks its a good idea and is refusing to just make a single tab with filter options. god almighty...just simply get in touch with people who play your games and f'ing LISTEN!!! [ñÔR] The-/ We are in the midst of the Tf2 custom tab also... made a plugin to legally use visiblemaxplayers to get on the internet tab to help populate but cant really do that too well with FF Don Williams wrote: Welcome to OUR life ! :D *hugs* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daron Dodd Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:16 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] DoD:S Beta Custom Tab woes start already its not a bug its a feature, welcome to custom tab dods and css! On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:09 PM, [ñÔR] The-/ wrote: So friendlyfire gets you put on the custom tab, what sense does that make? Could these issues be put to a valve survey to see what the people want? We already dealt with the custom tab nearly destroying our TF2 community now your trying to take what little stake we have left in dods and css, why do you hate server ops valve? please do tell ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 3:36 PM ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoD:S Beta Custom Tab woes start already
That doesn't really make sense, seeing as Steam is a distribution platform for games and other things. http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=content_stats I'm pretty sure their master server(s) uses the least amount of bandwidth of all of those machines, since it's only serving IP address information to the client and retrieving IP/tags from the servers when they send a heartbeat. Probably uses less bandwidth than a properly configured 24 player 24/7 full server. JDoc0512 wrote: and people don't believe when I say valve did this to save bandwidth and money Timothy L Havener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christ...this custom tag BS blows. Its maddening that some dummy at valve thinks its a good idea and is refusing to just make a single tab with filter options. god almighty...just simply get in touch with people who play your games and f'ing LISTEN!!! [ñÔR] The-/ We are in the midst of the Tf2 custom tab also... made a plugin to legally use visiblemaxplayers to get on the internet tab to help populate but cant really do that too well with FF Don Williams wrote: Welcome to OUR life ! :D *hugs* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daron Dodd Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:16 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] DoD:S Beta Custom Tab woes start already its not a bug its a feature, welcome to custom tab dods and css! On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:09 PM, [ñÔR] The-/ wrote: So friendlyfire gets you put on the custom tab, what sense does that make? Could these issues be put to a valve survey to see what the people want? We already dealt with the custom tab nearly destroying our TF2 community now your trying to take what little stake we have left in dods and css, why do you hate server ops valve? please do tell ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 3:36 PM ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoD:S Beta Sensitivity Cvars classified as cheat?
What, I can't change my mouse sensitivity? Geez? JDoc0512 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another idea would be to not touch any cvar Cc2iscooL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BETA. Here's an idea for you. Why don't you report the incorrect ones so that Valve can fix them? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly because VALVe said so. Argh, it's annoying - either classify every cvar as cheats, or only classify the cheat ones. It's getting annoying having every cvar classified as cheats one by one. \[Я?R] The-/ wrote: The bazooka sensitivity is more than standard sensitivity even though the cvar looks as if it should be less, also why are the bazooka and mg sensitivity cvars classified as cheats? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition
Yeah I support this, I'm amused by the custom tab. I didn't think valve would have the balls to put it on DOD:S/CS:S. Now those server ops can join in on the rage. - voogru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L Havener Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:28 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: [hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition Please reply to this if you support a single tab with filter options rather than the current custom tab system. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] f
f... That's what I currently think about the custom tab. Support the petition. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] f
Still not funny, told you things aren't working out for you as a comedian :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: f... That's what I currently think about the custom tab. Support the petition. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition
That would definitely be my preference the Internet Custom is just confusing and prevents the natural flow of players. Why anyone would think presenting all the filter options using a consistent format and in one place is a bad idea is beyond me. - Original Message - From: Timothy L Havener [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please reply to this if you support a single tab with filter options rather than the current custom tab system. This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition
Hear hear! No offence to valve, but why must they go in the face of the vast majority of their community who want something changed. It seems basic customer relations to me.. and happier customers = more business = more money surely? Consider my name on the list. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] f
Yes, I know. Last night BurtonJ punched me soo hard in the face, he permanently fractured my Steam! :S Bikkies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still not funny, told you things aren't working out for you as a comedian :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: f... That's what I currently think about the custom tab. Support the petition. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition
I think they had a good idea to begin with, but they implemented it poorly and won't admit that it isn't doing the best. My personal opinion is they should include the tag system under the Change Filters button, and not de-list, I mean, list servers to the custom tab. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Philip Bembridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hear hear! No offence to valve, but why must they go in the face of the vast majority of their community who want something changed. It seems basic customer relations to me.. and happier customers = more business = more money surely? Consider my name on the list. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition
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Re: [hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition
hay look, a dead horse *poke poke poke* George Devgru Seal wrote: I think they had a good idea to begin with, but they implemented it poorly and won't admit that it isn't doing the best. My personal opinion is they should include the tag system under the Change Filters button, and not de-list, I mean, list servers to the custom tab. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Philip Bembridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hear hear! No offence to valve, but why must they go in the face of the vast majority of their community who want something changed. It seems basic customer relations to me.. and happier customers = more business = more money surely? Consider my name on the list. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition
Hay is for horses :P SakeFox wrote: hay look, a dead horse *poke poke poke* George Devgru Seal wrote: I think they had a good idea to begin with, but they implemented it poorly and won't admit that it isn't doing the best. My personal opinion is they should include the tag system under the Change Filters button, and not de-list, I mean, list servers to the custom tab. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Philip Bembridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hear hear! No offence to valve, but why must they go in the face of the vast majority of their community who want something changed. It seems basic customer relations to me.. and happier customers = more business = more money surely? Consider my name on the list. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition
But not dead horses Neil Voutt wrote: Hay is for horses :P SakeFox wrote: hay look, a dead horse *poke poke poke* George Devgru Seal wrote: I think they had a good idea to begin with, but they implemented it poorly and won't admit that it isn't doing the best. My personal opinion is they should include the tag system under the Change Filters button, and not de-list, I mean, list servers to the custom tab. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Philip Bembridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hear hear! No offence to valve, but why must they go in the face of the vast majority of their community who want something changed. It seems basic customer relations to me.. and happier customers = more business = more money surely? Consider my name on the list. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition
There's a bunch of dead horses on the custom tab, I doubt they'll mind if you poke em :P. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Tom Leighton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But not dead horses Neil Voutt wrote: Hay is for horses :P SakeFox wrote: hay look, a dead horse *poke poke poke* George Devgru Seal wrote: I think they had a good idea to begin with, but they implemented it poorly and won't admit that it isn't doing the best. My personal opinion is they should include the tag system under the Change Filters button, and not de-list, I mean, list servers to the custom tab. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Philip Bembridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hear hear! No offence to valve, but why must they go in the face of the vast majority of their community who want something changed. It seems basic customer relations to me.. and happier customers = more business = more money surely? Consider my name on the list. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition
How about this? If Valve doesn't remove the custom tab I will post naked pics of myself. That should motivate. James McKenna wrote: Online petitions work! On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dead horses... tastes like chicken...? - Original Message From: Tom Leighton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 12:11:06 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Single Tab w/filter options Petition But not dead horses Neil Voutt wrote: Hay is for horses :P SakeFox wrote: hay look, a dead horse *poke poke poke* George Devgru Seal wrote: I think they had a good idea to begin with, but they implemented it poorly and won't admit that it isn't doing the best. My personal opinion is they should include the tag system under the Change Filters button, and not de-list, I mean, list servers to the custom tab. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Philip Bembridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hear hear! No offence to valve, but why must they go in the face of the vast majority of their community who want something changed. It seems basic customer relations to me.. and happier customers = more business = more money surely? Consider my name on the list. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1464 - Release Date: 5/24/2008 8:56 AM ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Scrap the custome server tab
I Agree scrap the custom server tab, i have 6 server now dead thanks to that tab. Beep Beep _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001009ukm/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab
One word. Filters -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:23 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab I personally love the custom tabs. I can't wait till its completely integrated in and valve follows through and delists the servers that willingly by pass the system. It's great not having to cycle through a bunch of servers to find one that is set how the game was ment to be played. Carl . wrote: I Agree scrap the custom server tab, i have 6 server now dead thanks to that tab. Beep Beep _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001009ukm/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab
Aye, stop being lazy and use the system that has been long proven and works great... don't be a baby and have to have your hand guided for you... Saint K. wrote: One word. Filters -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:23 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab I personally love the custom tabs. I can't wait till its completely integrated in and valve follows through and delists the servers that willingly by pass the system. It's great not having to cycle through a bunch of servers to find one that is set how the game was ment to be played. Carl . wrote: I Agree scrap the custom server tab, i have 6 server now dead thanks to that tab. Beep Beep _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001009ukm/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab
Why does every dev keep trying to reinvent the wheel? Classic server browser with filters is always the best. Stop telling people which servers you think they should join and let them decide and if they can't figure it out on their own that's just called culling the herd. [ЯтR] The-/iller wrote: Aye, stop being lazy and use the system that has been long proven and works great... don't be a baby and have to have your hand guided for you... Saint K. wrote: One word. Filters -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:23 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab I personally love the custom tabs. I can't wait till its completely integrated in and valve follows through and delists the servers that willingly by pass the system. It's great not having to cycle through a bunch of servers to find one that is set how the game was ment to be played. Carl . wrote: I Agree scrap the custom server tab, i have 6 server now dead thanks to that tab. Beep Beep _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001009ukm/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1464 - Release Date: 5/24/2008 8:56 AM ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab
Spam will destroy the usefullness of this mail list and will not accomplish anything at all. - Original Message - From: Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab I agree. We need to all be constantly sending messages on this mailing list until the system is properly implemented. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab
I agree. We need to all be constantly sending messages on this mailing list until the system is properly implemented. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L Havener Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab Why does every dev keep trying to reinvent the wheel? Classic server browser with filters is always the best. Stop telling people which servers you think they should join and let them decide and if they can't figure it out on their own that's just called culling the herd. [ЯтR] The-/iller wrote: Aye, stop being lazy and use the system that has been long proven and works great... don't be a baby and have to have your hand guided for you... Saint K. wrote: One word. Filters -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:23 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab I personally love the custom tabs. I can't wait till its completely integrated in and valve follows through and delists the servers that willingly by pass the system. It's great not having to cycle through a bunch of servers to find one that is set how the game was ment to be played. Carl . wrote: I Agree scrap the custom server tab, i have 6 server now dead thanks to that tab. Beep Beep _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001009ukm/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1464 - Release Date: 5/24/2008 8:56 AM ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab
It's not spam. It's voicing our displeasure of the current system. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:37 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab It will provide a public outlet for our constant rage. That's good enough. Kevin Ottalini wrote: Spam will destroy the usefullness of this mail list and will not accomplish anything at all. - Original Message - From: Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab I agree. We need to all be constantly sending messages on this mailing list until the system is properly implemented. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab
It will provide a public outlet for our constant rage. That's good enough. Kevin Ottalini wrote: Spam will destroy the usefullness of this mail list and will not accomplish anything at all. - Original Message - From: Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab I agree. We need to all be constantly sending messages on this mailing list until the system is properly implemented. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] srcds and sleep
On drunken_f00l's advice I decided to mess with the sleep() call srcds does. Apparently stats CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 0.00 0.00 0 0 28571.43 0 stats CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 0.00 0.00 0 0 31250.00 0 stats CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 76.25 0.00 0.00 0 0 34482.76 0 stats CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 76.25 0.00 0.00 0 0 34482.76 0 It seems the server sleeps on every frame, regardless of if its over *or* undershooting it's FPS goal: fps_max 300 stats CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 97.00 0.00 0.00 5 0 299.94 0 stats CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 96.00 0.00 0.00 5 0 299.94 0 stats CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 95.25 0.00 0.00 5 0 299.94 0 stats CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 95.25 0.00 0.00 5 0 299.94 0 Note the CPU usage. This means that the server isn't sleeping more when it's overshooting its FPS goal, nor is it staying awake longer when its not quite getting there. Anyone from valve care to comment on this? Is there a performance/stability reason it works this way, or might there be a possible performance/cpu gain/tradeoff from writing a plugin that tweaks sleep()? - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab
the majority of people on this list are gsp's or community leaders etc which lets face it valve dont care what we think we need some way of letting the public vote on this matter maybe valve should release a new survey like there pc spec one to see what the gamers want instead ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
