Re: [hlds] Servers are absent in Server Browser

2011-09-29 Thread Ook

How are these non steam servers???

Ignore the list nazis...it looks to me that these are all HL DM servers, 
at least the ones on the steam server browser. And the last I checked, 
this was the HLDS list


right now I see DM3 and TDM2, TDM3, TDM4. I can see DM2 with HLSW, but 
it does not appear in steam server browser and yet there are 20 players 
on it.


I don't have a solution, but this happens to me all the time. I have two 
OP4 servers and on HL server, on the same IP, different ports, and they 
seem to pop on and off of the steam server browser at random - and it's 
never the one on port 27015 - that one is always there, it is the others 
that come and go. And if you restart the server, it appears immediately 
on the list. For a while...


I've given up trying to find an answer, I just ignore it...strange that 
the one on port 27015 is always there, where the others come and go.




On 09/28/2011 10:11 PM, AnAkIn . wrote:

We don't support Non Steam servers on this list.

2011/9/29 Dmitriy Bobrovskiy supp...@isotonic.ru 
mailto:supp...@isotonic.ru


Hi everyone!

We have a few HLDS servers running on Windows. They have correct
set of Steam master servers. They are identical (of course they
use different ports and mapcycles). But only about half of them is
seen in Steam Server Browser. I would like to solve that problem.
Any help will be much appreciated.

Here the servers list:
HL TDM 1: hl.aimaster.ru:27014 http://hl.aimaster.ru:27014  absent
HL TDM 2: hl.aimaster.ru:27016 http://hl.aimaster.ru:27016  absent
HL TDM 4: hl.aimaster.ru:27027 http://hl.aimaster.ru:27027  present
HL DM 1 : hl.aimaster.ru:27010 http://hl.aimaster.ru:27010  
   absent
HL DM 2 : hl.aimaster.ru:27012 http://hl.aimaster.ru:27012  
   absent
HL DM 3 : hl.aimaster.ru:27017 http://hl.aimaster.ru:27017  
   present



Best Wishes!
Dmitriy Bobrovskiy
Systems Administrator
Moscow, Russia
supp...@isotonic.ru mailto:supp...@isotonic.ru
http://isotonic.ru/


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Re: [hlds] Servers are absent in Server Browser

2011-09-29 Thread Claudio Beretta
they are cracked servers.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Ook ooksser...@zootal.com wrote:

  How are these non steam servers???

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Re: [hlds] Servers are absent in Server Browser

2011-09-29 Thread AnAkIn .
Ook, as you don't know what Non Steam servers are, this may help you:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=non+steam+servers

2011/9/29 Claudio Beretta beretta.clau...@gmail.com

 they are cracked servers.


 On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Ook ooksser...@zootal.com wrote:

  How are these non steam servers???


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Re: [hlds] Servers are absent in Server Browser

2011-09-29 Thread Ook
Is he running cracked servers? How can you tell? And what exactly is a 
cracked server?



On 09/29/2011 09:11 AM, Claudio Beretta wrote:

they are cracked servers.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Ook ooksser...@zootal.com 
mailto:ooksser...@zootal.com wrote:


How are these non steam servers???



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Re: [hlds] Servers are absent in Server Browser

2011-09-29 Thread Rick Payton
It allows players who didn't buy the game play the multiplayer aspect of said 
game.

--mauirixxx

From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ook
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:43 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers are absent in Server Browser

Is he running cracked servers? How can you tell? And what exactly is a 
cracked server?


On 09/29/2011 09:11 AM, Claudio Beretta wrote:
they are cracked servers.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Ook 
ooksser...@zootal.commailto:ooksser...@zootal.com wrote:
How are these non steam servers???




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Re: [hlds] Servers are absent in Server Browser

2011-09-29 Thread Saul Rennison
Server-side Steam authentication is effectively disabled, so players who do
not legally own the game with Steam can play. These non-Steam servers are
listed on third-party master servers.

On Thursday, 29 September 2011, Ook ooksser...@zootal.com wrote:
 Is he running cracked servers? How can you tell? And what exactly is a
cracked server?


 On 09/29/2011 09:11 AM, Claudio Beretta wrote:

 they are cracked servers.

 On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Ook ooksser...@zootal.com wrote:

 How are these non steam servers???

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[hlds] Mandatory TF2 BETA update released

2011-09-29 Thread Eric Smith
We've released a mandatory update for Team Fortress 2 BETA. The update notes 
are below.

-Eric

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Pyro:

Flamethrower:
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Backburner:
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Degreaser:
Added -10% damage
Removed -25% burn damage

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Re: [hlds] Servers are absent in Server Browser

2011-09-29 Thread Dmitriy Bobrovskiy
Ook Is he running cracked servers? How can you tell? And what exactly is a 
cracked server?
mauirixxx It allows players who didn’t buy the game play the multiplayer 
aspect of said game.
Saul Rennison Server-side Steam authentication is effectively disabled, so 
players who do not legally own the game with Steam can play.
I agree. It’s fully correct definitions.

AnAkIn We don't support Non Steam servers on this list.
First of all I hate this situation. Most of admins have to run so-called 
cracked servers in order to have players on them. I have legal copy of the game 
'Half-Life'. I done simple research during an hour: I opened server browser, 
connected to various servers and then pressed Shift+TAB to open Steam Community 
in-game. After that I navigated to Players-Current game and saw 'No Steam 
users reported by game server' every time! Tell me where I can find Steam 
servers? I don't know they all is cracked in Steam Server Browser list.

If you don't support Non Steam servers who do you support then?
And who 'we'?

--
Ook Ignore the list nazis...it looks to me that these are all HL DM servers, 
at least
Ook the ones on the steam server browser. And the last I checked, this was the
Ook HLDS list
Ook 
Ook right now I see DM3 and TDM2, TDM3, TDM4. I can see DM2 with HLSW, but
Ook it does not appear in steam server browser and yet there are 20 players on 
it.
Ook 
Ook I don't have a solution, but this happens to me all the time. I have two
Ook OP4 servers and on HL server, on the same IP, different ports, and they
Ook seem to pop on and off of the steam server browser at random - and it's
Ook never the one on port 27015 - that one is always there, it is the others 
that
Ook come and go. And if you restart the server, it appears immediately on the 
list.
Ook For a while...
Ook 
Ook I've given up trying to find an answer, I just ignore it...strange that 
the one on
Ook port 27015 is always there, where the others come and go. 
Thank you for answer! It's great help especially when there are no any info yet.
Our servers don't appears on the list after restarting.
I think the problem (poping on|off and absence) has two common reasons: ether 
servers get banned after some time (because cracked?) or servers don't meet 
list requirements for some reason. And I do want find out why.


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Re: [hlds] Servers are absent in Server Browser

2011-09-29 Thread Cc2iscooL
We support non-cracked servers.

Why?

Because cracked servers typically have issues like this that are completely
unrelated to any issue with the proper build.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Dmitriy Bobrovskiy supp...@isotonic.ruwrote:

 Ook Is he running cracked servers? How can you tell? And what exactly is
 a cracked server?
 mauirixxx It allows players who didn’t buy the game play the multiplayer
 aspect of said game.
 Saul Rennison Server-side Steam authentication is effectively disabled, so
 players who do not legally own the game with Steam can play.
 I agree. It’s fully correct definitions.

 AnAkIn We don't support Non Steam servers on this list.
 First of all I hate this situation. Most of admins have to run so-called
 cracked servers in order to have players on them. I have legal copy of the
 game 'Half-Life'. I done simple research during an hour: I opened server
 browser, connected to various servers and then pressed Shift+TAB to open
 Steam Community in-game. After that I navigated to Players-Current game and
 saw 'No Steam users reported by game server' every time! Tell me where I can
 find Steam servers? I don't know they all is cracked in Steam Server Browser
 list.

 If you don't support Non Steam servers who do you support then?
 And who 'we'?

 --
 Ook Ignore the list nazis...it looks to me that these are all HL DM
 servers, at least
 Ook the ones on the steam server browser. And the last I checked, this was
 the
 Ook HLDS list
 Ook
 Ook right now I see DM3 and TDM2, TDM3, TDM4. I can see DM2 with HLSW, but
 Ook it does not appear in steam server browser and yet there are 20
 players on it.
 Ook
 Ook I don't have a solution, but this happens to me all the time. I have
 two
 Ook OP4 servers and on HL server, on the same IP, different ports, and
 they
 Ook seem to pop on and off of the steam server browser at random - and
 it's
 Ook never the one on port 27015 - that one is always there, it is the
 others that
 Ook come and go. And if you restart the server, it appears immediately on
 the list.
 Ook For a while...
 Ook
 Ook I've given up trying to find an answer, I just ignore it...strange
 that the one on
 Ook port 27015 is always there, where the others come and go.
 Thank you for answer! It's great help especially when there are no any info
 yet.
 Our servers don't appears on the list after restarting.
 I think the problem (poping on|off and absence) has two common reasons:
 ether servers get banned after some time (because cracked?) or servers don't
 meet list requirements for some reason. And I do want find out why.


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Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 BETA update released

2011-09-29 Thread Dmitriy Bobrovskiy
Could you explain me the difference between TF2 BETA and TF2? I know they have 
different AppID... But what game newer?

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-
 boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
 Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:52 AM
 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list';
 'hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 BETA update released
 
 We've released a mandatory update for Team Fortress 2 BETA. 


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Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 BETA update released

2011-09-29 Thread Jonah Hirsch
TF2 BETA is a testing ground for future TF2 features. They are checked for
balance and bugs, etc. before being made live on TF2.
---
Jonah Hirsch



On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Dmitriy Bobrovskiy supp...@isotonic.ruwrote:

 Could you explain me the difference between TF2 BETA and TF2? I know they
 have different AppID... But what game newer?

  -Original Message-
  From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-
  boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
  Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:52 AM
  To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list';
  'hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com'
  Subject: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 BETA update released
 
  We've released a mandatory update for Team Fortress 2 BETA.


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