Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS...
it wouldn't be so bad if it were used wisely. Putting it in there a few weeks ahead of time so that we could preload the stuff that has been finalized so that the final download would be relatively small is a good idea. But having it in there for months and months for no reason makes no sense. -- Clayton Macleod get ye flask You cannot get ye flask. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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It's possible that when it was put in they felt it would be released soon enough. It was added to Coming Soon before they had decided to completely redo everything instead of just porting it up. Removing the icon at that point would have probably been worse with people freaking out and saying it doesn't exist (more than people are doing now I guess it'd be). Clayton Macleod wrote: it wouldn't be so bad if it were used wisely. Putting it in there a few weeks ahead of time so that we could preload the stuff that has been finalized so that the final download would be relatively small is a good idea. But having it in there for months and months for no reason makes no sense. -- Clayton Macleod get ye flask You cannot get ye flask. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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I'm holding out more hope for Fortress-Forever at this point if we want any semblance of a TFC: Source. Granted the FF people are making minor changes, the core gameplay is promised to remain. In that I still play the original TFC, I'm definitely looking forward to anything either Valve or the FF crew can get out to us. stalker333 wrote: Ruiner, Thank you for pointing that out, I started playing TFC and still do, would LOVE to see a TFC port. However, valve has pretty much poo pooed all over that idea, in favor of TF2. Which is fine with me, at least they don't CLAIM we'll get TFC:S. Though they never said we wouldnt get TFC:S either, if I remember right. That's not the case with DOD:S. Funny thing about all this is, part of the reason (small part, but still) that I started playing DOD more often, was I thought it would get better support than TFC. It does, I mean, at least DOD:S is coming at some point, but here I am still looking at coming soon. Meanwhile CS:S is being updated every other week. That, as penn and teller would say, is BULLSHIT. -Smurf ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Coming Soon BS...[OT]
loved the jay and silent bob reference sandy :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SANDY LEBLANC Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:53 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I wasn't going to say anything after your first email but damn dude, something shit in your cereal or something that made you want to bitch at people tonight? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Well it doesn't matter to me unless the servers are available, until that time I have no interest, so please keep your player issues to the player oriented forums, thank you. stalker333 wrote: Valve, Wasn't going to post about this, but every time I look at it, it pisses me off. S... [rant=on] DOD:S has been coming soon for almost a year, and now to add insult to injury, you put ANOTHER game in the coming soon category? Didn't you learn your lesson the first time? Not only will it likely be in coming soon for a while still, but don't you think you should release the game you *already* said was coming soon, first? If you took a vote of all the DOD players, I'm sure they would, most of them anyway, rather you release the damn beta at this point. Let us work the bugs out :P Now, one other thing. When I paid for HL2, I was told, on your website, I would get DOD:S. There was no, let me say that again, NO mention of it not being released yet until you clicked a link to take you to more info on DOD:S. Didn't see that until after I paid for HL2. May be different now, but thats how it was when I paid for my copy. Now, that's fine (not really, but for the purposes of this discussion), because I know it'll get here one day. However, for those of us who don't like CS or DM, would be nice to have our mods playable too. So hows about taking this lost coast group and putting them to work on DOD:S, get that out the door, then come back to LC. I don't remember being told I would get LC when I paid for HL2, DOD:S I did. Ok, that made me feel better. [/rant=off] -Smurf ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Nobody shat in my cereal. What first message? That was in regards to another issue, 64bit support... I'm not upset at anyone in specific, nor am I trying to bitch. What bugs me, is that DOD:S isn't out yet, and has been in the coming soon catagory for Lets see, since Oct 5th of 04. Now, they have added yet another game/mod/episode whatever to coming soon. Yes, I mentioned it, and in short, don't like it. So I guess you can call that bitching. Suppose this isn't really the place for it, should have posted that on the steam forums or something, sorry. -Smurf Message: 4 From: SANDY LEBLANC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 04:53:29 + Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I wasn't going to say anything after your first email but damn dude, something shit in your cereal or something that made you want to bitch at people tonight? As for DoD:s, would you rather them give a release date not have it out at that time get flooded with bs messages like this ranting about them missing the date??? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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- Original Message - From: stalker333 [EMAIL PROTECTED] What bugs me, is that DOD:S isn't out yet, and has been in the coming soon catagory for Lets see, since Oct 5th of 04. Now, they have added yet another game/mod/episode whatever to coming soon. Ever think there is alot more than one development team in one house and under one roof? BeNt http://www.gorillazsouth.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Games aren't made in days. DoD:S is much more than a port. I believe I read somewhere that they originally thought it would be mostly a port (which prompted the Coming Soon listing in Steam), but they decided to overhaul a bunch of stuff to make it a much better game. Have you seen the screenshots? But what do I know? I was only on the beta test team. Drew On 8/14/05, stalker333 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valve, Wasn't going to post about this, but every time I look at it, it pisses me off. S... [rant=on] DOD:S has been coming soon for almost a year, and now to add insult to injury, you put ANOTHER game in the coming soon category? Didn't you learn your lesson the first time? Not only will it likely be in coming soon for a while still, but don't you think you should release the game you *already* said was coming soon, first? If you took a vote of all the DOD players, I'm sure they would, most of them anyway, rather you release the damn beta at this point. Let us work the bugs out :P Now, one other thing. When I paid for HL2, I was told, on your website, I would get DOD:S. There was no, let me say that again, NO mention of it not being released yet until you clicked a link to take you to more info on DOD:S. Didn't see that until after I paid for HL2. May be different now, but thats how it was when I paid for my copy. Now, that's fine (not really, but for the purposes of this discussion), because I know it'll get here one day. However, for those of us who don't like CS or DM, would be nice to have our mods playable too. So hows about taking this lost coast group and putting them to work on DOD:S, get that out the door, then come back to LC. I don't remember being told I would get LC when I paid for HL2, DOD:S I did. Ok, that made me feel better. [/rant=off] -Smurf ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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[ Converted text/html to text/plain ] The only time I hear Activision named is when someone refers to the original DoD not the port over. IMO, I think VALVe is soley doing the port over. From: Roc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:18:01 -0400 Valve may have no control over DoD:S. I thought it was Activision that was holding the game due to whatever reasons. (forgive me if I am wrong) ;) Regards ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Yes, it did, but that wasn't really my point. Point is, having 2-3 games almost done doesn't help anyone. Look I understand everyone gets defensive of Valve, and usually for good reason (they are being blamed for something stupid) but this, frankly, is only Valve. Now, call me crazy, but I just like getting what I paid for. Again, I know people hate to hear that (oddly enough) and I don't mind waiting, but g'damn! How much artwork are they doing?!? Again, I don't mean to piss anyone off, but even Valve knows this is getting old, some of them anyway. -Smurf Message: 6 From: [GS]BeNt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:27:16 -0500 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com - Original Message - From: stalker333 [EMAIL PROTECTED] What bugs me, is that DOD:S isn't out yet, and has been in the coming soon catagory for Lets see, since Oct 5th of 04. Now, they have added yet another game/mod/episode whatever to coming soon. Ever think there is alot more than one development team in one house and under one roof? BeNt http://www.gorillazsouth.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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I agree. This is getting way old. Is anyone impressed with the screenshots? The game isn't out yet and the released pics look substandard. I'm wondering if it will look as good as HL2. I have had a 24/7 DoD server since the beta days. I think I may jump ship to newer games like Battlefield 2. Let the flames roar up, I care not. Megatron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:40 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Yes, it did, but that wasn't really my point. Point is, having 2-3 games almost done doesn't help anyone. Look I understand everyone gets defensive of Valve, and usually for good reason (they are being blamed for something stupid) but this, frankly, is only Valve. Now, call me crazy, but I just like getting what I paid for. Again, I know people hate to hear that (oddly enough) and I don't mind waiting, but g'damn! How much artwork are they doing?!? Again, I don't mean to piss anyone off, but even Valve knows this is getting old, some of them anyway. -Smurf Message: 6 From: [GS]BeNt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:27:16 -0500 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com - Original Message - From: stalker333 [EMAIL PROTECTED] What bugs me, is that DOD:S isn't out yet, and has been in the coming soon catagory for Lets see, since Oct 5th of 04. Now, they have added yet another game/mod/episode whatever to coming soon. Ever think there is alot more than one development team in one house and under one roof? BeNt http://www.gorillazsouth.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Jump (at least for now), it's much more fun. (no offense meant to valve just my honest opinion) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Megatron Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... I agree. This is getting way old. Is anyone impressed with the screenshots? The game isn't out yet and the released pics look substandard. I'm wondering if it will look as good as HL2. I have had a 24/7 DoD server since the beta days. I think I may jump ship to newer games like Battlefield 2. Let the flames roar up, I care not. Megatron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:40 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Yes, it did, but that wasn't really my point. Point is, having 2-3 games almost done doesn't help anyone. Look I understand everyone gets defensive of Valve, and usually for good reason (they are being blamed for something stupid) but this, frankly, is only Valve. Now, call me crazy, but I just like getting what I paid for. Again, I know people hate to hear that (oddly enough) and I don't mind waiting, but g'damn! How much artwork are they doing?!? Again, I don't mean to piss anyone off, but even Valve knows this is getting old, some of them anyway. -Smurf Message: 6 From: [GS]BeNt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:27:16 -0500 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com - Original Message - From: stalker333 [EMAIL PROTECTED] What bugs me, is that DOD:S isn't out yet, and has been in the coming soon catagory for Lets see, since Oct 5th of 04. Now, they have added yet another game/mod/episode whatever to coming soon. Ever think there is alot more than one development team in one house and under one roof? BeNt http://www.gorillazsouth.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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From a server point of view, you'll be MUCH more frustrated with BF2. Just a word of warning. I would suggest joining their mailing list and lurk for just a day or two to get a feel for the discontent there. - Original Message - From: Napier, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Jump (at least for now), it's much more fun. (no offense meant to valve just my honest opinion) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Megatron Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... I agree. This is getting way old. Is anyone impressed with the screenshots? The game isn't out yet and the released pics look substandard. I'm wondering if it will look as good as HL2. I have had a 24/7 DoD server since the beta days. I think I may jump ship to newer games like Battlefield 2. Let the flames roar up, I care not. Megatron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:40 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Yes, it did, but that wasn't really my point. Point is, having 2-3 games almost done doesn't help anyone. Look I understand everyone gets defensive of Valve, and usually for good reason (they are being blamed for something stupid) but this, frankly, is only Valve. Now, call me crazy, but I just like getting what I paid for. Again, I know people hate to hear that (oddly enough) and I don't mind waiting, but g'damn! How much artwork are they doing?!? Again, I don't mean to piss anyone off, but even Valve knows this is getting old, some of them anyway. -Smurf Message: 6 From: [GS]BeNt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:27:16 -0500 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com - Original Message - From: stalker333 [EMAIL PROTECTED] What bugs me, is that DOD:S isn't out yet, and has been in the coming soon catagory for Lets see, since Oct 5th of 04. Now, they have added yet another game/mod/episode whatever to coming soon. Ever think there is alot more than one development team in one house and under one roof? BeNt http://www.gorillazsouth.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS...
Hehe, you guys are frustrated that your game is listed in Coming Soon? You don't know how lucky you are! The TFC community has been left in the dark for so long... ! TFC:S? TF:2? Who knows. Be happy at least the mod is coming soon... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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yes I definatly meant from a game point of view, not a server admin point of view, though the tools are much better this time around, but certainly hlds scrs are easier to run. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DLinkOZ Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:24 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... From a server point of view, you'll be MUCH more frustrated with BF2. Just a word of warning. I would suggest joining their mailing list and lurk for just a day or two to get a feel for the discontent there. - Original Message - From: Napier, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Jump (at least for now), it's much more fun. (no offense meant to valve just my honest opinion) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Megatron Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... I agree. This is getting way old. Is anyone impressed with the screenshots? The game isn't out yet and the released pics look substandard. I'm wondering if it will look as good as HL2. I have had a 24/7 DoD server since the beta days. I think I may jump ship to newer games like Battlefield 2. Let the flames roar up, I care not. Megatron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:40 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Yes, it did, but that wasn't really my point. Point is, having 2-3 games almost done doesn't help anyone. Look I understand everyone gets defensive of Valve, and usually for good reason (they are being blamed for something stupid) but this, frankly, is only Valve. Now, call me crazy, but I just like getting what I paid for. Again, I know people hate to hear that (oddly enough) and I don't mind waiting, but g'damn! How much artwork are they doing?!? Again, I don't mean to piss anyone off, but even Valve knows this is getting old, some of them anyway. -Smurf Message: 6 From: [GS]BeNt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:27:16 -0500 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com - Original Message - From: stalker333 [EMAIL PROTECTED] What bugs me, is that DOD:S isn't out yet, and has been in the coming soon catagory for Lets see, since Oct 5th of 04. Now, they have added yet another game/mod/episode whatever to coming soon. Ever think there is alot more than one development team in one house and under one roof? BeNt http://www.gorillazsouth.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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I suppose I'm somewhat obligated to complain about not having the OP4 source, etc :-) Quake 4. It's The Next Big Thing, and there is a good chance that you will see Ooks Steaming Pile of Crap becoming Ooks Quaking Pile of Crap v.4 by the end of the year. DeathMatch was the first love of my life, and I often mourn the demise of DM and the spread of Counter-Shite. Maybe Q4 can breath some life back into the DM arena? UT2K3 was good - but not good enough. They still have not learned something that Valve, and now ID, know - you want a killer DM game, you have to have a killer SP game to get people to buy it in the first place. I love Q3 DM, but there was no Q3 SP, and although the Q3 engine is now ancient history, it had a lot going for it. But the numbers just weren't there, and the netcode very much favored low latency connections. And now I'm starting to ramble... - Original Message - From: Napier, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:19 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Jump (at least for now), it's much more fun. (no offense meant to valve just my honest opinion) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Megatron Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... I agree. This is getting way old. Is anyone impressed with the screenshots? The game isn't out yet and the released pics look substandard. I'm wondering if it will look as good as HL2. I have had a 24/7 DoD server since the beta days. I think I may jump ship to newer games like Battlefield 2. Let the flames roar up, I care not. Megatron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:40 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Yes, it did, but that wasn't really my point. Point is, having 2-3 games almost done doesn't help anyone. Look I understand everyone gets defensive of Valve, and usually for good reason (they are being blamed for something stupid) but this, frankly, is only Valve. Now, call me crazy, but I just like getting what I paid for. Again, I know people hate to hear that (oddly enough) and I don't mind waiting, but g'damn! How much artwork are they doing?!? Again, I don't mean to piss anyone off, but even Valve knows this is getting old, some of them anyway. -Smurf Message: 6 From: [GS]BeNt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:27:16 -0500 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com - Original Message - From: stalker333 [EMAIL PROTECTED] What bugs me, is that DOD:S isn't out yet, and has been in the coming soon catagory for Lets see, since Oct 5th of 04. Now, they have added yet another game/mod/episode whatever to coming soon. Ever think there is alot more than one development team in one house and under one roof? BeNt http://www.gorillazsouth.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Pre-Ordering Game Software is one of the great scams of the 21st century It seems that some people, regardless of how many times they get punched in the head, are never going to learn. The other great scam is, Computer Hardware Pre-Ordering Until said software or hardware can be physically purchased from a store somewhere by myself, as far as I am concerned it does not exist. Even when people claim they can buy it, it still does not matter to me, because for all intents and purposes, no matter how much money I may in fact have, I still cannot purchase it. Make you wonder whether people are angry because they have not go their game yet, or they are angry for being conned and made to look stupid, again! The last thing I have to say is Darwin Award -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Ya know this is coming from the same people who bought TFC 2 and pre-ordered their copy. I dont understand why people keep buying these games when theres nothing to buy. So you pre-ordered a game. Wow. As most of us will be doing, we'll be paying full prices to just download a game. Another thing that I find interesting HL2:LostCoast...wow I've been hearing things about a so called DoD:Source and now I'm hearing rumors of Half-Life 2: Aftermath. Three letters tell it all WTF? Go re-make counter strike again and sell it. Surely some one will buy it the 4th time around. Whisper wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Pre-Ordering Game Software is one of the great scams of the 21st century It seems that some people, regardless of how many times they get punched in the head, are never going to learn. The other great scam is, Computer Hardware Pre-Ordering Until said software or hardware can be physically purchased from a store somewhere by myself, as far as I am concerned it does not exist. Even when people claim they can buy it, it still does not matter to me, because for all intents and purposes, no matter how much money I may in fact have, I still cannot purchase it. Make you wonder whether people are angry because they have not go their game yet, or they are angry for being conned and made to look stupid, again! The last thing I have to say is Darwin Award -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Ok I'll respond to this just because Im tired of hearing about it, if you would have taken the time to read what was said about the new game (Ragdoll Kung Fu) you would have noticed Valve is not developing it. It is being developed by a private developer. Valve is just putting it on Steam. Yes Im sure they get royalties but they are not doing the developing they have theyre resources spread out a little far I would think to be bringing up anything new. stalker333 wrote: Yes, it did, but that wasn't really my point. Point is, having 2-3 games almost done doesn't help anyone. Look I understand everyone gets defensive of Valve, and usually for good reason (they are being blamed for something stupid) but this, frankly, is only Valve. Now, call me crazy, but I just like getting what I paid for. Again, I know people hate to hear that (oddly enough) and I don't mind waiting, but g'damn! How much artwork are they doing?!? Again, I don't mean to piss anyone off, but even Valve knows this is getting old, some of them anyway. -Smurf Message: 6 From: [GS]BeNt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:27:16 -0500 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com - Original Message - From: stalker333 [EMAIL PROTECTED] What bugs me, is that DOD:S isn't out yet, and has been in the coming soon catagory for Lets see, since Oct 5th of 04. Now, they have added yet another game/mod/episode whatever to coming soon. Ever think there is alot more than one development team in one house and under one roof? BeNt http://www.gorillazsouth.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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uh, nobody mentioned Ragdoll Kung Fu...they're talking about Lost Coast, DoDS, (TFC2, Aftermath)... On 8/15/05, T3XAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok I'll respond to this just because Im tired of hearing about it, if you would have taken the time to read what was said about the new game (Ragdoll Kung Fu) you would have noticed Valve is not developing it. It is being developed by a private developer. Valve is just putting it on Steam. Yes Im sure they get royalties but they are not doing the developing they have theyre resources spread out a little far I would think to be bringing up anything new. -- Clayton Macleod get ye flask You cannot get ye flask. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Drew, How long do you think they have been working on DOD:S (not when beta opened), which WAS just a port when they started? Just wonder a guess. Days? I would hardly be bitching about that, and frankly would have been very impressed lol. Now we can go on and on talking about WHY it's not released yet, and even why they all the sudden decided to spend months on artwork, I have a few ideas. Again that's not the point though and I'm not going to argue those ideas with people who don't really know either. So we'll leave that as it is. Point is, I (and most of you) have paid for a game to see it sit in the coming soon section of steam, and hey, we got to see some screenshots and videos! lol As for being a beta tester, thats great, good for you. That doesnt change anything though, and doesn't mean you know anything about whats going on behind closed doors either. Not saying that to be a jerk, but unless Valve is very different from most developers, you don't know much more than we do at this point. So thanks for pointing that out, but no, it doesn't mean you know anything in regards to the release. Sorry to upset the Valve purists, but it was my opinion that this coming soon thing is BS, you don't like that opinion, that's up to you. But don't assume I don't understand software development, been there, but this is beyond working the bugs out. -Smurf Message: 4 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:05:10 -0500 From: Drew Hostetler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Games aren't made in days. DoD:S is much more than a port. I believe I read somewhere that they originally thought it would be mostly a port (which prompted the Coming Soon listing in Steam), but they decided to overhaul a bunch of stuff to make it a much better game. Have you seen the screenshots? But what do I know? I was only on the beta test team. Drew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Can't speak to this specifically, but since play testing of DOD:S has taken over the Valve office I think it's safe to say they at least have some input ;-) -Smurf Message: 5 From: SANDY LEBLANC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:06:58 + Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] The only time I hear Activision named is when someone refers to the original DoD not the port over. IMO, I think VALVe is soley doing the port over. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Ruiner, Thank you for pointing that out, I started playing TFC and still do, would LOVE to see a TFC port. However, valve has pretty much poo pooed all over that idea, in favor of TF2. Which is fine with me, at least they don't CLAIM we'll get TFC:S. Though they never said we wouldnt get TFC:S either, if I remember right. That's not the case with DOD:S. Funny thing about all this is, part of the reason (small part, but still) that I started playing DOD more often, was I thought it would get better support than TFC. It does, I mean, at least DOD:S is coming at some point, but here I am still looking at coming soon. Meanwhile CS:S is being updated every other week. That, as penn and teller would say, is BULLSHIT. -Smurf Message: 5 From: Ruiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:26:22 -0400 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Hehe, you guys are frustrated that your game is listed in Coming Soon? You don't know how lucky you are! The TFC community has been left in the dark for so long... ! TFC:S? TF:2? Who knows. Be happy at least the mod is coming soon... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Hey... Get in line :) We are still demanding an update for TFC first! Whether it's TFC:S or TF2 I could give a rats ass.. I just want Valve to know that they *DO* have responsibilities besides CS :( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 12:46 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Valve, Wasn't going to post about this, but every time I look at it, it pisses me off. S... [rant=on] DOD:S has been coming soon for almost a year, and now to add insult to injury, you put ANOTHER game in the coming soon category? Didn't you learn your lesson the first time? Not only will it likely be in coming soon for a while still, but don't you think you should release the game you *already* said was coming soon, first? If you took a vote of all the DOD players, I'm sure they would, most of them anyway, rather you release the damn beta at this point. Let us work the bugs out :P Now, one other thing. When I paid for HL2, I was told, on your website, I would get DOD:S. There was no, let me say that again, NO mention of it not being released yet until you clicked a link to take you to more info on DOD:S. Didn't see that until after I paid for HL2. May be different now, but thats how it was when I paid for my copy. Now, that's fine (not really, but for the purposes of this discussion), because I know it'll get here one day. However, for those of us who don't like CS or DM, would be nice to have our mods playable too. So hows about taking this lost coast group and putting them to work on DOD:S, get that out the door, then come back to LC. I don't remember being told I would get LC when I paid for HL2, DOD:S I did. Ok, that made me feel better. [/rant=off] -Smurf ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Coming Soon BS...
Valve, Wasn't going to post about this, but every time I look at it, it pisses me off. S... [rant=on] DOD:S has been coming soon for almost a year, and now to add insult to injury, you put ANOTHER game in the coming soon category? Didn't you learn your lesson the first time? Not only will it likely be in coming soon for a while still, but don't you think you should release the game you *already* said was coming soon, first? If you took a vote of all the DOD players, I'm sure they would, most of them anyway, rather you release the damn beta at this point. Let us work the bugs out :P Now, one other thing. When I paid for HL2, I was told, on your website, I would get DOD:S. There was no, let me say that again, NO mention of it not being released yet until you clicked a link to take you to more info on DOD:S. Didn't see that until after I paid for HL2. May be different now, but thats how it was when I paid for my copy. Now, that's fine (not really, but for the purposes of this discussion), because I know it'll get here one day. However, for those of us who don't like CS or DM, would be nice to have our mods playable too. So hows about taking this lost coast group and putting them to work on DOD:S, get that out the door, then come back to LC. I don't remember being told I would get LC when I paid for HL2, DOD:S I did. Ok, that made me feel better. [/rant=off] -Smurf ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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[ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I wasn't going to say anything after your first email but damn dude, something shit in your cereal or something that made you want to bitch at people tonight? As for DoD:s, would you rather them give a release date not have it out at that time get flooded with bs messages like this ranting about them missing the date??? From: stalker333 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:46:03 -0400 Valve, Wasn't going to post about this, but every time I look at it, it pisses me off. S... [rant=on] DOD:S has been coming soon for almost a year, and now to add insult to injury, you put ANOTHER game in the coming soon category? Didn't you learn your lesson the first time? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Valve may have no control over DoD:S. I thought it was Activision that was holding the game due to whatever reasons. (forgive me if I am wrong) ;) Regards SANDY LEBLANC wrote: [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I wasn't going to say anything after your first email but damn dude, something shit in your cereal or something that made you want to bitch at people tonight? As for DoD:s, would you rather them give a release date not have it out at that time get flooded with bs messages like this ranting about them missing the date??? From: stalker333 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Coming Soon BS... Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:46:03 -0400 Valve, Wasn't going to post about this, but every time I look at it, it pisses me off. S... [rant=on] DOD:S has been coming soon for almost a year, and now to add insult to injury, you put ANOTHER game in the coming soon category? Didn't you learn your lesson the first time? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
