Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
The way I see it, the more people on farm servers means less of these farmers in regular servers trying to farm. Those farmers could potentially hurt the gameplay experience for the people in your server who are just trying to play the game. Which, in my opinion, is far far worse. Patrick On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, thats pwnage 2009/2/3 Arg! chillic...@gmail.com pwned On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Neil Voutt mr.neosty...@gmail.com wrote: You care enough to set up a server JUST to ban people. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Maybe, but I don't respect or care about farmers. On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 19:54 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: Thats kinda mean lol On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement box maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all. On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Neil Voutt http://www.neilvoutt.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
yeah, thats pwnage 2009/2/3 Arg! chillic...@gmail.com pwned On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Neil Voutt mr.neosty...@gmail.com wrote: You care enough to set up a server JUST to ban people. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Maybe, but I don't respect or care about farmers. On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 19:54 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: Thats kinda mean lol On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement box maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all. On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Neil Voutt http://www.neilvoutt.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
the way i look at it is if they want to farm let them. it's in no way hurting you. The only issue i ever have is when they use the unlock program. they should be vac banned. Patrick O wrote: The way I see it, the more people on farm servers means less of these farmers in regular servers trying to farm. Those farmers could potentially hurt the gameplay experience for the people in your server who are just trying to play the game. Which, in my opinion, is far far worse. Patrick On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, thats pwnage 2009/2/3 Arg! chillic...@gmail.com pwned On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Neil Voutt mr.neosty...@gmail.com wrote: You care enough to set up a server JUST to ban people. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Maybe, but I don't respect or care about farmers. On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 19:54 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: Thats kinda mean lol On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement box maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all. On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Neil Voutt http://www.neilvoutt.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
Back when I was running a TF2 server, I would ALWAYS limit the classes when those class patches came out. A 24-slot server with 20 medics is pointless. ~ Matt On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:10 PM, SakeFox sake...@kingdomsend.com wrote: the way i look at it is if they want to farm let them. it's in no way hurting you. The only issue i ever have is when they use the unlock program. they should be vac banned. Patrick O wrote: The way I see it, the more people on farm servers means less of these farmers in regular servers trying to farm. Those farmers could potentially hurt the gameplay experience for the people in your server who are just trying to play the game. Which, in my opinion, is far far worse. Patrick On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, thats pwnage 2009/2/3 Arg! chillic...@gmail.com pwned On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Neil Voutt mr.neosty...@gmail.com wrote: You care enough to set up a server JUST to ban people. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Maybe, but I don't respect or care about farmers. On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 19:54 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: Thats kinda mean lol On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement box maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all. On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Neil Voutt http://www.neilvoutt.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
I would like confirmation on Valve's standing on achievement farming. And if VAC ban's will be applied and/or loss of achievements? -- Neil Voutt http://www.neilvoutt.com On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement box maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all. On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
Farming servers are usually intentional. Valve won't ban farmers. They won't even take their unlockables/achievements away. What they will do is take away the unlockables/achievements of some of the people who unlock them via console (you just know that workaround will be left in, AGAIN). I, for one, welcome our new baseball throwing (please!) overlords. Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:31:44 +0200 From: alexandrualexa...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners) Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Hotmail® goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/versatility.aspx#mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_WL_HM_versatility_121208 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
Thats kinda mean lol On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement box maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all. On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Neil Voutt http://www.neilvoutt.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
Maybe, but I don't respect or care about farmers. On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 19:54 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: Thats kinda mean lol On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement box maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all. On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
You care enough to set up a server JUST to ban people. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Maybe, but I don't respect or care about farmers. On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 19:54 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: Thats kinda mean lol On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement box maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all. On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Neil Voutt http://www.neilvoutt.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
How many bans does it take before the banfile gets too large to load Neil Voutt wrote: You care enough to set up a server JUST to ban people. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Maybe, but I don't respect or care about farmers. On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 19:54 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: Thats kinda mean lol On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement box maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all. On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
I don't care about them being able to play or have fun. If Valve won't do something about people who do it, then I will. I will probably release the plugin this time around too, I need to rewrite it to be compatible with SourceBans. On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 20:08 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: You care enough to set up a server JUST to ban people. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Maybe, but I don't respect or care about farmers. On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 19:54 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: Thats kinda mean lol On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement box maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all. On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
pwned On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Neil Voutt mr.neosty...@gmail.com wrote: You care enough to set up a server JUST to ban people. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Maybe, but I don't respect or care about farmers. On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 19:54 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: Thats kinda mean lol On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement box maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all. On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Neil Voutt http://www.neilvoutt.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
