RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
Whatever people say, its better then nothing at all! And you never know when they update it... So if you cheat... you can be cought off guard! As it is now... there is nothing at all... Even if I knew VAC2 would only catch 1/10 of cheaters I will welcome it! Happy happy joy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13. juni 2005 01:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] vac2 will come out and then the next day it will be hacked . -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
They should just make a new anti-cheat altogether. If you cheat, a VALVe employee is sent to cremate your computer, using a special VALVe created grinding machine that grinds computers to a fine dust. The dust is then sold to kitten litter manufacturers. And it will be in the EULA that you agree to it. People will stop cheating real fast. - voogru. -Original Message- From: Alexander Kobbevik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta Whatever people say, its better then nothing at all! And you never know when they update it... So if you cheat... you can be cought off guard! As it is now... there is nothing at all... Even if I knew VAC2 would only catch 1/10 of cheaters I will welcome it! Happy happy joy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13. juni 2005 01:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] vac2 will come out and then the next day it will be hacked . -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
I am interested to know if there will be any client side protection in VAC2, as this is something I am becoming increasingly concerned with. Just yesterday one of the servers outside of my management which I play on quite regularly came to sending me a pile of cvar requests (normal for some of the hack-check systems) then it sent me a pile data which I cannot identify - followed by a console clear. Now forgive me for my paranioa, but IMO this is the start of Adware financed servers - PLEASE PROTECT THE CLIENTS FROM THE SERVERS TOO!!! On 6/13/05, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should just make a new anti-cheat altogether. If you cheat, a VALVe employee is sent to cremate your computer, using a special VALVe created grinding machine that grinds computers to a fine dust. The dust is then sold to kitten litter manufacturers. And it will be in the EULA that you agree to it. People will stop cheating real fast. - voogru. -Original Message- From: Alexander Kobbevik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta Whatever people say, its better then nothing at all! And you never know when they update it... So if you cheat... you can be cought off guard! As it is now... there is nothing at all... Even if I knew VAC2 would only catch 1/10 of cheaters I will welcome it! Happy happy joy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13. juni 2005 01:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] vac2 will come out and then the next day it will be hacked . -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
I noticed this yesterday as well. Just as you say.. lots of commands followed by console clear. I didn't think about it much... maybe this is HLGuard in work? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tucker Sent: 13. juni 2005 13:46 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta I am interested to know if there will be any client side protection in VAC2, as this is something I am becoming increasingly concerned with. Just yesterday one of the servers outside of my management which I play on quite regularly came to sending me a pile of cvar requests (normal for some of the hack-check systems) then it sent me a pile data which I cannot identify - followed by a console clear. Now forgive me for my paranioa, but IMO this is the start of Adware financed servers - PLEASE PROTECT THE CLIENTS FROM THE SERVERS TOO!!! On 6/13/05, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should just make a new anti-cheat altogether. If you cheat, a VALVe employee is sent to cremate your computer, using a special VALVe created grinding machine that grinds computers to a fine dust. The dust is then sold to kitten litter manufacturers. And it will be in the EULA that you agree to it. People will stop cheating real fast. - voogru. -Original Message- From: Alexander Kobbevik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta Whatever people say, its better then nothing at all! And you never know when they update it... So if you cheat... you can be cought off guard! As it is now... there is nothing at all... Even if I knew VAC2 would only catch 1/10 of cheaters I will welcome it! Happy happy joy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13. juni 2005 01:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] vac2 will come out and then the next day it will be hacked . -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
What you are describing is from servers running Mani Admin Plugin or BeetleFarts plugin. They added a rudimentary detection for the common HLH hack by sending the client cvar commands that are known to be used to execute the cheat. So when the cvar is successfull it knows that person has a cheat installed and then based on the setting it can ban them automatically. So its really nothing to worry about. Dagok - Original Message - From: James Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta I am interested to know if there will be any client side protection in VAC2, as this is something I am becoming increasingly concerned with. Just yesterday one of the servers outside of my management which I play on quite regularly came to sending me a pile of cvar requests (normal for some of the hack-check systems) then it sent me a pile data which I cannot identify - followed by a console clear. Now forgive me for my paranioa, but IMO this is the start of Adware financed servers - PLEASE PROTECT THE CLIENTS FROM THE SERVERS TOO!!! On 6/13/05, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should just make a new anti-cheat altogether. If you cheat, a VALVe employee is sent to cremate your computer, using a special VALVe created grinding machine that grinds computers to a fine dust. The dust is then sold to kitten litter manufacturers. And it will be in the EULA that you agree to it. People will stop cheating real fast. - voogru. -Original Message- From: Alexander Kobbevik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta Whatever people say, its better then nothing at all! And you never know when they update it... So if you cheat... you can be cought off guard! As it is now... there is nothing at all... Even if I knew VAC2 would only catch 1/10 of cheaters I will welcome it! Happy happy joy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13. juni 2005 01:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] vac2 will come out and then the next day it will be hacked . -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
Interesting, did not know about this. Does HLGuard work for CSS? Is there any available working anticheat for CSS at this time? - Original Message - From: Dagok [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta What you are describing is from servers running Mani Admin Plugin or BeetleFarts plugin. They added a rudimentary detection for the common HLH hack by sending the client cvar commands that are known to be used to execute the cheat. So when the cvar is successfull it knows that person has a cheat installed and then based on the setting it can ban them automatically. So its really nothing to worry about. Dagok - Original Message - From: James Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta I am interested to know if there will be any client side protection in VAC2, as this is something I am becoming increasingly concerned with. Just yesterday one of the servers outside of my management which I play on quite regularly came to sending me a pile of cvar requests (normal for some of the hack-check systems) then it sent me a pile data which I cannot identify - followed by a console clear. Now forgive me for my paranioa, but IMO this is the start of Adware financed servers - PLEASE PROTECT THE CLIENTS FROM THE SERVERS TOO!!! On 6/13/05, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should just make a new anti-cheat altogether. If you cheat, a VALVe employee is sent to cremate your computer, using a special VALVe created grinding machine that grinds computers to a fine dust. The dust is then sold to kitten litter manufacturers. And it will be in the EULA that you agree to it. People will stop cheating real fast. - voogru. -Original Message- From: Alexander Kobbevik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta Whatever people say, its better then nothing at all! And you never know when they update it... So if you cheat... you can be cought off guard! As it is now... there is nothing at all... Even if I knew VAC2 would only catch 1/10 of cheaters I will welcome it! Happy happy joy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13. juni 2005 01:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] vac2 will come out and then the next day it will be hacked . -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
there are no real anti-hack plugins/programs public yet, just cvar checking mechanim's that check to see if you have certain cvars active an then ban you based on the results. -KP On 6/13/05, Andrew Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting, did not know about this. Does HLGuard work for CSS? Is there any available working anticheat for CSS at this time? - Original Message - From: Dagok [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta What you are describing is from servers running Mani Admin Plugin or BeetleFarts plugin. They added a rudimentary detection for the common HLH hack by sending the client cvar commands that are known to be used to execute the cheat. So when the cvar is successfull it knows that person has a cheat installed and then based on the setting it can ban them automatically. So its really nothing to worry about. Dagok - Original Message - From: James Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta I am interested to know if there will be any client side protection in VAC2, as this is something I am becoming increasingly concerned with. Just yesterday one of the servers outside of my management which I play on quite regularly came to sending me a pile of cvar requests (normal for some of the hack-check systems) then it sent me a pile data which I cannot identify - followed by a console clear. Now forgive me for my paranioa, but IMO this is the start of Adware financed servers - PLEASE PROTECT THE CLIENTS FROM THE SERVERS TOO!!! On 6/13/05, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should just make a new anti-cheat altogether. If you cheat, a VALVe employee is sent to cremate your computer, using a special VALVe created grinding machine that grinds computers to a fine dust. The dust is then sold to kitten litter manufacturers. And it will be in the EULA that you agree to it. People will stop cheating real fast. - voogru. -Original Message- From: Alexander Kobbevik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta Whatever people say, its better then nothing at all! And you never know when they update it... So if you cheat... you can be cought off guard! As it is now... there is nothing at all... Even if I knew VAC2 would only catch 1/10 of cheaters I will welcome it! Happy happy joy! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
Are there any cvars checks possible to detect nonsteam? - Original Message - From: KingPin Servers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta there are no real anti-hack plugins/programs public yet, just cvar checking mechanim's that check to see if you have certain cvars active an then ban you based on the results. -KP On 6/13/05, Andrew Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting, did not know about this. Does HLGuard work for CSS? Is there any available working anticheat for CSS at this time? - Original Message - From: Dagok [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta What you are describing is from servers running Mani Admin Plugin or BeetleFarts plugin. They added a rudimentary detection for the common HLH hack by sending the client cvar commands that are known to be used to execute the cheat. So when the cvar is successfull it knows that person has a cheat installed and then based on the setting it can ban them automatically. So its really nothing to worry about. Dagok - Original Message - From: James Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta I am interested to know if there will be any client side protection in VAC2, as this is something I am becoming increasingly concerned with. Just yesterday one of the servers outside of my management which I play on quite regularly came to sending me a pile of cvar requests (normal for some of the hack-check systems) then it sent me a pile data which I cannot identify - followed by a console clear. Now forgive me for my paranioa, but IMO this is the start of Adware financed servers - PLEASE PROTECT THE CLIENTS FROM THE SERVERS TOO!!! On 6/13/05, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should just make a new anti-cheat altogether. If you cheat, a VALVe employee is sent to cremate your computer, using a special VALVe created grinding machine that grinds computers to a fine dust. The dust is then sold to kitten litter manufacturers. And it will be in the EULA that you agree to it. People will stop cheating real fast. - voogru. -Original Message- From: Alexander Kobbevik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta Whatever people say, its better then nothing at all! And you never know when they update it... So if you cheat... you can be cought off guard! As it is now... there is nothing at all... Even if I knew VAC2 would only catch 1/10 of cheaters I will welcome it! Happy happy joy! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
I think, VAC2 will be ready as soon as somebody hacks Valve or it gets leaked to the cheat coders. After all, how many teenage punks would stay interested in a game for so long if they couldn't cheat? Think that's crazy? Just wait and see how long it takes to find VAC2 proof cheats. Megatron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:00 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta They should just make a new anti-cheat altogether. If you cheat, a VALVe employee is sent to cremate your computer, using a special VALVe created grinding machine that grinds computers to a fine dust. The dust is then sold to kitten litter manufacturers. And it will be in the EULA that you agree to it. People will stop cheating real fast. - voogru. -Original Message- From: Alexander Kobbevik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta Whatever people say, its better then nothing at all! And you never know when they update it... So if you cheat... you can be cought off guard! As it is now... there is nothing at all... Even if I knew VAC2 would only catch 1/10 of cheaters I will welcome it! Happy happy joy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13. juni 2005 01:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] vac2 will come out and then the next day it will be hacked . -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] anyone have a link to download the mani anticheat -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
See http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com Mani's has a nice documentation, explaining how to setup hlh-protection. Your server has to run mani's, though. Hajo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:04 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] anyone have a link to download the mani anticheat -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] i have beetlemod on there do you know if bm has the same anticheat as mani? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
I can't join any of the VAC servers, It will get to Verifying and Downloading Resources and it will download Security Module and freeze up for a second and then say Error about Cannot verify, any ideas? This never happened on VAC 1 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
The VAC2 Beta refers to the servers enabling VAC2. The servers don't do the cheat detection, so that testing is completely independant, and I believe has been going on since march/april. Steve (aka Mudboy) The-Space.net Jonathan wrote: Apologies if I've somehow missed this in an earlier message from someone else (or Alfred, even), but the last I knew of VAC2, it was still in connectivity testing. This was several weeks, I believe, before the recent update that seems to have expanded the beta to 1.6. So, where exactly are we with the beta test? Still connectivity, or have we moved along to cheat detection testing? Just curious to see how it's progressing. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
Zachary Doherty wrote: I can't join any of the VAC servers, It will get to Verifying and Downloading Resources and it will download Security Module and freeze up for a second and then say Error about Cannot verify, any ideas? This never happened on VAC 1 Its a known issue with the VAC 2 BETA. The figures I've seen bandied about are 1 in 4 players will not be able to connect to a server that has the beta enabled. Also, as Steve Dalberg has just posted, it doesn't actually do any cheat detection. Stephen ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
i have beetlemod on there do you know if bm has the same anticheat as mani? Yes, it does. Mani uses the same method as BM, bm had it first. Check BM's documentation to see how to set it up. It's enabled by default. http://qoda.net/cssource/minimumadmin/doc/#CheatDetection ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
On 6/13/05, Dagok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you are describing is from servers running Mani Admin Plugin or BeetleFarts plugin. Correct. They added a rudimentary detection for the common HLH hack by sending the client cvar commands that are known to be used to execute the cheat. correct. So when the cvar is successfull it knows that person has a cheat installed and then based on the setting it can ban them automatically. correct. So its really nothing to worry about. The cvars in question were not cheat detection - and the console clear is not a normal part of this process. Dagok - Original Message - From: James Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta I am interested to know if there will be any client side protection in VAC2, as this is something I am becoming increasingly concerned with. Just yesterday one of the servers outside of my management which I play on quite regularly came to sending me a pile of cvar requests (normal for some of the hack-check systems) then it sent me a pile data which I cannot identify - followed by a console clear. Now forgive me for my paranioa, but IMO this is the start of Adware financed servers - PLEASE PROTECT THE CLIENTS FROM THE SERVERS TOO!!! On 6/13/05, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should just make a new anti-cheat altogether. If you cheat, a VALVe employee is sent to cremate your computer, using a special VALVe created grinding machine that grinds computers to a fine dust. The dust is then sold to kitten litter manufacturers. And it will be in the EULA that you agree to it. People will stop cheating real fast. - voogru. -Original Message- From: Alexander Kobbevik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta Whatever people say, its better then nothing at all! And you never know when they update it... So if you cheat... you can be cought off guard! As it is now... there is nothing at all... Even if I knew VAC2 would only catch 1/10 of cheaters I will welcome it! Happy happy joy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13. juni 2005 01:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] vac2 will come out and then the next day it will be hacked . -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
I hope they're doing full cheat detection, but tell you that they're just testing connectivity ;) Regards, Ryan Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: 12 June 2005 21:26 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta Apologies if I've somehow missed this in an earlier message from someone else (or Alfred, even), but the last I knew of VAC2, it was still in connectivity testing. This was several weeks, I believe, before the recent update that seems to have expanded the beta to 1.6. So, where exactly are we with the beta test? Still connectivity, or have we moved along to cheat detection testing? Just curious to see how it's progressing. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 11/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 11/06/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] from what i remember reading the announcement of connectivity testing was the last official word before the system went live. correct me if im wrong. --- Matt White [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Jonathan wrote: Apologies if I've somehow missed this in an earlier message from someone else (or Alfred, even), but the last I knew of VAC2, it was still in connectivity testing. This was several weeks, I believe, before the recent update that seems to have expanded the beta to 1.6. So, where exactly are we with the beta test? Still connectivity, or have we moved along to cheat detection testing? Just curious to see how it's progressing. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
Well there was an email from Doug Lombardi a couple weeks ago saying release was 'Imminent'. I'de have to guess from that, that the connectivity issues are the last major item to sort out. Detection testing must already be complete, if it wasn't and they were starting it after the connectivity issues, there's no way that the release could be 'imminent'. But this is all speculation on my part. - Original Message - From: Matthew White [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] from what i remember reading the announcement of connectivity testing was the last official word before the system went live. correct me if im wrong. --- Matt White [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Jonathan wrote: Apologies if I've somehow missed this in an earlier message from someone else (or Alfred, even), but the last I knew of VAC2, it was still in connectivity testing. This was several weeks, I believe, before the recent update that seems to have expanded the beta to 1.6. So, where exactly are we with the beta test? Still connectivity, or have we moved along to cheat detection testing? Just curious to see how it's progressing. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
So would I, honestly, but after Alfred's comment from awhile back, I was just a bit confused since the wording of that March announcement is kind of contradictory to something I read on this list. Dagok wrote: The Steam News update back in March specifically said... we will be logging cheating violations into our database to make sure it's ready for general release. http://www.steampowered.com/Steam/Marketing/Mar25.2005/ Since they updated HL1 code last week to prepare for the release of VAC2, I'd expect to see VAC2 released by the end of the month. Dagok - Original Message - From: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Yeah, that'd be what I thought after the Imminently line, but that seems to not be the case these days. That, and I'm fairly sure I remember seeing Alfred comment that cheat detection was coming up, not already completed - which is why I'm asking so that I can find out what's going on. =] artiecs wrote: Well there was an email from Doug Lombardi a couple weeks ago saying release was 'Imminent'. I'de have to guess from that, that the connectivity issues are the last major item to sort out. Detection testing must already be complete, if it wasn't and they were starting it after the connectivity issues, there's no way that the release could be 'imminent'. But this is all speculation on my part. - Original Message - From: Matthew White [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] from what i remember reading the announcement of connectivity testing was the last official word before the system went live. correct me if im wrong. --- Matt White [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Jonathan wrote: Apologies if I've somehow missed this in an earlier message from someone else (or Alfred, even), but the last I knew of VAC2, it was still in connectivity testing. This was several weeks, I believe, before the recent update that seems to have expanded the beta to 1.6. So, where exactly are we with the beta test? Still connectivity, or have we moved along to cheat detection testing? Just curious to see how it's progressing. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] vac2 will come out and then the next day it will be hacked . -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
Roger that! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 7:53 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] vac2 will come out and then the next day it will be hacked . -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
