Re: [hlds] Half-Life 1 Engine Update released

2009-04-17 Thread pizzahut
2009/4/16 Alfred Reynolds alf...@valvesoftware.com

> There is also a client piece to this beta now, so if you run your Steam
> client with "-beta hlds0319" on the command line you will get it. The client
> piece fixes a couple exploits in the game engine.


Could you give a pointer which exploits have been fixed?
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Re: [hlds] Half-Life 1 Engine Update released

2009-04-17 Thread Saul Rennison
No because then you'd be able to use the exploits before the beta goes
mainstream.

2009/4/17 pizzahut 

> 2009/4/16 Alfred Reynolds alf...@valvesoftware.com
>
> > There is also a client piece to this beta now, so if you run your Steam
> > client with "-beta hlds0319" on the command line you will get it. The
> client
> > piece fixes a couple exploits in the game engine.
>
>
> Could you give a pointer which exploits have been fixed?
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Re: [hlds] Half-Life 1 Engine Update released

2009-04-17 Thread pizzahut
He wouldn't need to tell how an exploit is done.
Also how can you beta test the client, other than general stability, if you
don't know what is fixed.
Finally, people who want to use exploits can do so anyway, there's even a
list at TFC forum which bugs there still are.
2009/4/17 Saul Rennison 

> No because then you'd be able to use the exploits before the beta goes
> mainstream.
>
> 2009/4/17 pizzahut 
>
> > 2009/4/16 Alfred Reynolds alf...@valvesoftware.com
> >
> > > There is also a client piece to this beta now, so if you run your Steam
> > > client with "-beta hlds0319" on the command line you will get it. The
> > client
> > > piece fixes a couple exploits in the game engine.
> >
> > Could you give a pointer which exploits have been fixed?
>
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Re: [hlds] Half-Life 1 Engine Update released

2009-04-17 Thread Alfred Reynolds
And the people that reported the bugs have been confirming those fixes :)

> -Original Message-
> From: Alfred Reynolds
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:17 AM
> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
> Subject: RE: [hlds] Half-Life 1 Engine Update released
>
> They were server hangs when users connected with malformed data.
>
> - Alfred
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-
> > boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of pizzahut
> > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:49 AM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Half-Life 1 Engine Update released
> >
> > He wouldn't need to tell how an exploit is done.
> > Also how can you beta test the client, other than general stability,
> if
> > you
> > don't know what is fixed.
> > Finally, people who want to use exploits can do so anyway, there's
> even
> > a
> > list at TFC forum which bugs there still are.
> > 2009/4/17 Saul Rennison 
> >
> > > No because then you'd be able to use the exploits before the beta
> > goes
> > > mainstream.
> > >
> > > 2009/4/17 pizzahut 
> > >
> > > > 2009/4/16 Alfred Reynolds alf...@valvesoftware.com
> > > >
> > > > > There is also a client piece to this beta now, so if you run
> your
> > Steam
> > > > > client with "-beta hlds0319" on the command line you will get
> it.
> > The
> > > > client
> > > > > piece fixes a couple exploits in the game engine.
> > > >
> > > > Could you give a pointer which exploits have been fixed?
> > >
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Re: [hlds] Half-Life 1 Engine Update released

2009-04-17 Thread Alfred Reynolds
They were server hangs when users connected with malformed data.

- Alfred

> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-
> boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of pizzahut
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:49 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Half-Life 1 Engine Update released
>
> He wouldn't need to tell how an exploit is done.
> Also how can you beta test the client, other than general stability, if
> you
> don't know what is fixed.
> Finally, people who want to use exploits can do so anyway, there's even
> a
> list at TFC forum which bugs there still are.
> 2009/4/17 Saul Rennison 
>
> > No because then you'd be able to use the exploits before the beta
> goes
> > mainstream.
> >
> > 2009/4/17 pizzahut 
> >
> > > 2009/4/16 Alfred Reynolds alf...@valvesoftware.com
> > >
> > > > There is also a client piece to this beta now, so if you run your
> Steam
> > > > client with "-beta hlds0319" on the command line you will get it.
> The
> > > client
> > > > piece fixes a couple exploits in the game engine.
> > >
> > > Could you give a pointer which exploits have been fixed?
> >
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Re: [hlds] Best/Worst of running game servers

2009-04-17 Thread msleeper
My best experience admining a server was right after Eternal Silence was
released on Steam, we setup I think 5 servers during the course of a
week because they were slam packed full 100% of the time. We started out
with 2 and over the course of the week we kept adding more to keep up
with the demand. It was awesome to be able to have so many people
wanting to play the game and just throwing more logs on the fire to keep
them all happy.

The worst experiences are dealing with people who think that they can
do/say whatever they want because they own the game. They sass admins
and talk back and think they're allowed to do whatever they want. Me
personally, I don't care if anyone talks trash to me or whatever, but
when people do it to my other admins or community members I hand out
punishment. It sucks to have to remind people daily, "Hey, my server, my
rules, if you don't like it there are 3,000 other ones to play on," but
it's part of the job I guess.

Keeping griefers and hackers at bay is a matter of having active members
who give a shit. I've found that a zero tolerance policy is best because
there's no reason you need to cut people like that any slack. Again,
there's ~3,000 TF2 servers at any given point in time, they can go piss
people off elsewhere.

Actual security is easy - don't give out passwords to anyone. Ever,
period. There's no reason anyone should need your FTP pass, and nobody
needs your rcon if you have something like SourceMod setup where people
can issue rcon commands using that instead.


On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 08:47 -0400, Bruce Potter wrote:
> [posted this to the linux list a few days ago.  figured I'd post it  
> here too.  Apologize for the x-post]
> 
> Howdy all,
> I'm giving a talk at a conference this weekend on game servers.
> Basically focusing on the technology behind them, how to secure them   
> (both from cheaters/griefers and from actual dedicated attackers),  
> the  culture around running servers, and whatever else I have time to  
> cover.
> 
> http://www.notacon.org/speakers.html#Potter
> 
> has more info on it.
> 
> Anyhoo, I was wondering if any of the folks on this list had any best   
> of/worst of stories, quotes, or feelings they'd like to share. If so,   
> feel free to send me details off list... cuz I'd hate to negatively   
> impact the signal to noise ratio on this list ;)
> 
> I also hope to be doing a deeper dive into the security aspect of  
> game  servers at the Blackhat conference in Vegas later this year,  
> FYI, in  case folks are interested.
> 
> thanks
> 
> bruce
> 
> 
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

2009-04-17 Thread msleeper
It's morons like you - not f0rkz and me - who bring it up every single
time I post an email here. It's morons like you that have nothing better
to do with your time than RGG over it almost TWO MONTHS after
the fact. I know that high school is almost out for the summer so you'll
have plenty of time to rage about it when you're not playing Halo, but
the grown ups are trying to be useful here, so take your pointless and
irrelevent bitching back to the Steam forums. I don't think anyone has
made a thread about it/me in a few weeks so now is your time to shine.


On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:17 -0400, Clyde cide wrote:
> Your lame lan clan got a black eye over him, guess you should get over it or
> expell him. either way he brought shame to your people so uhh pfft
> 
> 2009/4/16 f0rkz 
> 
> > I decided to point out how much of an idiot people are who are still
> > going on about this.  Get the fuck over it.
> >
> > f0rkz
> >
> > On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:40 PM, matan nov wrote:
> >
> > > Making honeypot servers for enthusiastic players is what killed
> > > jesus in the
> > > first place.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:10 AM, msleeper 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Writing useful plugins and not uploading them to AM makes the baby
> > >> jesus
> > >> cry.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:01 -0400, "[ЯтR] The-/
> > >>> We made a plugin if a team wins X rounds in a row it will auto
> > >>> scramble,
> > >>> don't think its been posted in the sm forums, Ill try to get the
> > >>> author
> > >> to.
> > >>>
> > >>> Alex wrote:
> >  Is there a cvar or something that I can use to scramble the teams
> >  after
> >  so many rounds or so many teamswitches? I cannot find any sourcemod
> >  plugins for this.
> > 
> >  Thanks
> > 
> > 
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

2009-04-17 Thread Mike Stiehm
I agree 

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:56 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

It's morons like you - not f0rkz and me - who bring it up every single
time I post an email here. It's morons like you that have nothing better
to do with your time than RGG over it almost TWO MONTHS after
the fact. I know that high school is almost out for the summer so you'll
have plenty of time to rage about it when you're not playing Halo, but
the grown ups are trying to be useful here, so take your pointless and
irrelevent bitching back to the Steam forums. I don't think anyone has
made a thread about it/me in a few weeks so now is your time to shine.


On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:17 -0400, Clyde cide wrote:
> Your lame lan clan got a black eye over him, guess you should get over it or
> expell him. either way he brought shame to your people so uhh pfft
> 
> 2009/4/16 f0rkz 
> 
> > I decided to point out how much of an idiot people are who are still
> > going on about this.  Get the fuck over it.
> >
> > f0rkz
> >
> > On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:40 PM, matan nov wrote:
> >
> > > Making honeypot servers for enthusiastic players is what killed
> > > jesus in the
> > > first place.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:10 AM, msleeper 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Writing useful plugins and not uploading them to AM makes the baby
> > >> jesus
> > >> cry.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:01 -0400, "[ЯтR] The-/
> > >>> We made a plugin if a team wins X rounds in a row it will auto
> > >>> scramble,
> > >>> don't think its been posted in the sm forums, Ill try to get the
> > >>> author
> > >> to.
> > >>>
> > >>> Alex wrote:
> >  Is there a cvar or something that I can use to scramble the teams
> >  after
> >  so many rounds or so many teamswitches? I cannot find any sourcemod
> >  plugins for this.
> > 
> >  Thanks
> > 
> > 
> >  __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> > >> signature database 4012 (20090416) __
> > 
> >  The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> > 
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

2009-04-17 Thread f0rkz
Nicely put sleeper.  I am ready to help people with problems, not  
listen to insane angst teenagers complain about how linkin park  
stopped making albums... oh wait, honeypot ethics.

-f0rkz

On Apr 17, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Mike Stiehm wrote:

> I agree
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
> ] On Behalf Of msleeper
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:56 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.
>
> It's morons like you - not f0rkz and me - who bring it up every single
> time I post an email here. It's morons like you that have nothing  
> better
> to do with your time than RGG over it almost TWO MONTHS after
> the fact. I know that high school is almost out for the summer so  
> you'll
> have plenty of time to rage about it when you're not playing Halo, but
> the grown ups are trying to be useful here, so take your pointless and
> irrelevent bitching back to the Steam forums. I don't think anyone has
> made a thread about it/me in a few weeks so now is your time to shine.
>
>
> On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:17 -0400, Clyde cide wrote:
>> Your lame lan clan got a black eye over him, guess you should get  
>> over it or
>> expell him. either way he brought shame to your people so uhh pfft
>>
>> 2009/4/16 f0rkz 
>>
>>> I decided to point out how much of an idiot people are who are still
>>> going on about this.  Get the fuck over it.
>>>
>>> f0rkz
>>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:40 PM, matan nov wrote:
>>>
 Making honeypot servers for enthusiastic players is what killed
 jesus in the
 first place.

 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:10 AM, msleeper 
 wrote:

> Writing useful plugins and not uploading them to AM makes the baby
> jesus
> cry.
>
>
> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:01 -0400, "[ЯтR] The-/
>> We made a plugin if a team wins X rounds in a row it will auto
>> scramble,
>> don't think its been posted in the sm forums, Ill try to get the
>> author
> to.
>>
>> Alex wrote:
>>> Is there a cvar or something that I can use to scramble the  
>>> teams
>>> after
>>> so many rounds or so many teamswitches? I cannot find any  
>>> sourcemod
>>> plugins for this.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of  
>>> virus
> signature database 4012 (20090416) __
>>>
>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>>
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

2009-04-17 Thread Ben B
The angry idiots in this list entertain me.  Guy was just looking to see if
a cvar existed.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Mike Stiehm  wrote:

> I agree
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:56 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.
>
> It's morons like you - not f0rkz and me - who bring it up every single
> time I post an email here. It's morons like you that have nothing better
> to do with your time than RGG over it almost TWO MONTHS after
> the fact. I know that high school is almost out for the summer so you'll
> have plenty of time to rage about it when you're not playing Halo, but
> the grown ups are trying to be useful here, so take your pointless and
> irrelevent bitching back to the Steam forums. I don't think anyone has
> made a thread about it/me in a few weeks so now is your time to shine.
>
>
> On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:17 -0400, Clyde cide wrote:
> > Your lame lan clan got a black eye over him, guess you should get over it
> or
> > expell him. either way he brought shame to your people so uhh pfft
> >
> > 2009/4/16 f0rkz 
> >
> > > I decided to point out how much of an idiot people are who are still
> > > going on about this.  Get the fuck over it.
> > >
> > > f0rkz
> > >
> > > On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:40 PM, matan nov wrote:
> > >
> > > > Making honeypot servers for enthusiastic players is what killed
> > > > jesus in the
> > > > first place.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:10 AM, msleeper 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Writing useful plugins and not uploading them to AM makes the baby
> > > >> jesus
> > > >> cry.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:01 -0400, "[ЯтR] The-/
> > > >>> We made a plugin if a team wins X rounds in a row it will auto
> > > >>> scramble,
> > > >>> don't think its been posted in the sm forums, Ill try to get the
> > > >>> author
> > > >> to.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Alex wrote:
> > >  Is there a cvar or something that I can use to scramble the teams
> > >  after
> > >  so many rounds or so many teamswitches? I cannot find any
> sourcemod
> > >  plugins for this.
> > > 
> > >  Thanks
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

2009-04-17 Thread Patrick Shelley
just out of morbid curiousity, do you plan to do more honey pots for
the sniper update?

i'm not being a dick, i'm just asking.

On 17/04/2009, Mike Stiehm  wrote:
> I agree
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:56 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.
>
> It's morons like you - not f0rkz and me - who bring it up every single
> time I post an email here. It's morons like you that have nothing better
> to do with your time than RGG over it almost TWO MONTHS after
> the fact. I know that high school is almost out for the summer so you'll
> have plenty of time to rage about it when you're not playing Halo, but
> the grown ups are trying to be useful here, so take your pointless and
> irrelevent bitching back to the Steam forums. I don't think anyone has
> made a thread about it/me in a few weeks so now is your time to shine.
>
>
> On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:17 -0400, Clyde cide wrote:
>> Your lame lan clan got a black eye over him, guess you should get over it
>> or
>> expell him. either way he brought shame to your people so uhh pfft
>>
>> 2009/4/16 f0rkz 
>>
>> > I decided to point out how much of an idiot people are who are still
>> > going on about this.  Get the fuck over it.
>> >
>> > f0rkz
>> >
>> > On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:40 PM, matan nov wrote:
>> >
>> > > Making honeypot servers for enthusiastic players is what killed
>> > > jesus in the
>> > > first place.
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:10 AM, msleeper 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Writing useful plugins and not uploading them to AM makes the baby
>> > >> jesus
>> > >> cry.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:01 -0400, "[ЯтR] The-/
>> > >>> We made a plugin if a team wins X rounds in a row it will auto
>> > >>> scramble,
>> > >>> don't think its been posted in the sm forums, Ill try to get the
>> > >>> author
>> > >> to.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Alex wrote:
>> >  Is there a cvar or something that I can use to scramble the teams
>> >  after
>> >  so many rounds or so many teamswitches? I cannot find any sourcemod
>> >  plugins for this.
>> > 
>> >  Thanks
>> > 
>> > 
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

2009-04-17 Thread msleeper
Yup, me and the 5 or 6 people who also run servers and want to do it.
We'll have maybe 10 servers instead of just the 1. I talked about it on
Control Point if you want to listen to the podcast. It was a good time.


On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 23:02 +0100, Patrick Shelley wrote:
> just out of morbid curiousity, do you plan to do more honey pots for
> the sniper update?
> 
> i'm not being a dick, i'm just asking.
> 
> On 17/04/2009, Mike Stiehm  wrote:
> > I agree
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
> > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:56 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.
> >
> > It's morons like you - not f0rkz and me - who bring it up every single
> > time I post an email here. It's morons like you that have nothing better
> > to do with your time than RGG over it almost TWO MONTHS after
> > the fact. I know that high school is almost out for the summer so you'll
> > have plenty of time to rage about it when you're not playing Halo, but
> > the grown ups are trying to be useful here, so take your pointless and
> > irrelevent bitching back to the Steam forums. I don't think anyone has
> > made a thread about it/me in a few weeks so now is your time to shine.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:17 -0400, Clyde cide wrote:
> >> Your lame lan clan got a black eye over him, guess you should get over it
> >> or
> >> expell him. either way he brought shame to your people so uhh pfft
> >>
> >> 2009/4/16 f0rkz 
> >>
> >> > I decided to point out how much of an idiot people are who are still
> >> > going on about this.  Get the fuck over it.
> >> >
> >> > f0rkz
> >> >
> >> > On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:40 PM, matan nov wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Making honeypot servers for enthusiastic players is what killed
> >> > > jesus in the
> >> > > first place.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:10 AM, msleeper 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Writing useful plugins and not uploading them to AM makes the baby
> >> > >> jesus
> >> > >> cry.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:01 -0400, "[ЯтR] The-/
> >> > >>> We made a plugin if a team wins X rounds in a row it will auto
> >> > >>> scramble,
> >> > >>> don't think its been posted in the sm forums, Ill try to get the
> >> > >>> author
> >> > >> to.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Alex wrote:
> >> >  Is there a cvar or something that I can use to scramble the teams
> >> >  after
> >> >  so many rounds or so many teamswitches? I cannot find any sourcemod
> >> >  plugins for this.
> >> > 
> >> >  Thanks
> >> > 
> >> > 
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> >> > >> signature database 4012 (20090416) __
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

2009-04-17 Thread Patrick Shelley
ok, fair play to you.

On 17/04/2009, msleeper  wrote:
> Yup, me and the 5 or 6 people who also run servers and want to do it.
> We'll have maybe 10 servers instead of just the 1. I talked about it on
> Control Point if you want to listen to the podcast. It was a good time.
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 23:02 +0100, Patrick Shelley wrote:
>> just out of morbid curiousity, do you plan to do more honey pots for
>> the sniper update?
>>
>> i'm not being a dick, i'm just asking.
>>
>> On 17/04/2009, Mike Stiehm  wrote:
>> > I agree
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
>> > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:56 PM
>> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.
>> >
>> > It's morons like you - not f0rkz and me - who bring it up every single
>> > time I post an email here. It's morons like you that have nothing better
>> > to do with your time than RGG over it almost TWO MONTHS after
>> > the fact. I know that high school is almost out for the summer so you'll
>> > have plenty of time to rage about it when you're not playing Halo, but
>> > the grown ups are trying to be useful here, so take your pointless and
>> > irrelevent bitching back to the Steam forums. I don't think anyone has
>> > made a thread about it/me in a few weeks so now is your time to shine.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:17 -0400, Clyde cide wrote:
>> >> Your lame lan clan got a black eye over him, guess you should get over
>> >> it
>> >> or
>> >> expell him. either way he brought shame to your people so uhh pfft
>> >>
>> >> 2009/4/16 f0rkz 
>> >>
>> >> > I decided to point out how much of an idiot people are who are still
>> >> > going on about this.  Get the fuck over it.
>> >> >
>> >> > f0rkz
>> >> >
>> >> > On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:40 PM, matan nov wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Making honeypot servers for enthusiastic players is what killed
>> >> > > jesus in the
>> >> > > first place.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:10 AM, msleeper 
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Writing useful plugins and not uploading them to AM makes the baby
>> >> > >> jesus
>> >> > >> cry.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:01 -0400, "[ЯтR] The-/
>> >> > >>> We made a plugin if a team wins X rounds in a row it will auto
>> >> > >>> scramble,
>> >> > >>> don't think its been posted in the sm forums, Ill try to get the
>> >> > >>> author
>> >> > >> to.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Alex wrote:
>> >> >  Is there a cvar or something that I can use to scramble the
>> >> >  teams
>> >> >  after
>> >> >  so many rounds or so many teamswitches? I cannot find any
>> >> >  sourcemod
>> >> >  plugins for this.
>> >> > 
>> >> >  Thanks
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> >  __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of
>> >> >  virus
>> >> > >> signature database 4012 (20090416) __
>> >> > 
>> >> >  The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>> >> > 
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

2009-04-17 Thread Clyde cide
Whos raging? You going off ore than any one. Your a pantload, thats
obvious Even the allied modders forum admins flamed your stupid Idea. If
you cant get it to fly there what do expect from any place else

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:55 PM, msleeper  wrote:

> It's morons like you - not f0rkz and me - who bring it up every single
> time I post an email here. It's morons like you that have nothing better
> to do with your time than RGG over it almost TWO MONTHS after
> the fact. I know that high school is almost out for the summer so you'll
> have plenty of time to rage about it when you're not playing Halo, but
> the grown ups are trying to be useful here, so take your pointless and
> irrelevent bitching back to the Steam forums. I don't think anyone has
> made a thread about it/me in a few weeks so now is your time to shine.
>
>
> On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:17 -0400, Clyde cide wrote:
> > Your lame lan clan got a black eye over him, guess you should get over it
> or
> > expell him. either way he brought shame to your people so uhh pfft
> >
> > 2009/4/16 f0rkz 
> >
> > > I decided to point out how much of an idiot people are who are still
> > > going on about this.  Get the fuck over it.
> > >
> > > f0rkz
> > >
> > > On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:40 PM, matan nov wrote:
> > >
> > > > Making honeypot servers for enthusiastic players is what killed
> > > > jesus in the
> > > > first place.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:10 AM, msleeper 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Writing useful plugins and not uploading them to AM makes the baby
> > > >> jesus
> > > >> cry.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:01 -0400, "[ЯтR] The-/
> > > >>> We made a plugin if a team wins X rounds in a row it will auto
> > > >>> scramble,
> > > >>> don't think its been posted in the sm forums, Ill try to get the
> > > >>> author
> > > >> to.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Alex wrote:
> > >  Is there a cvar or something that I can use to scramble the teams
> > >  after
> > >  so many rounds or so many teamswitches? I cannot find any
> sourcemod
> > >  plugins for this.
> > > 
> > >  Thanks
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> > > >> signature database 4012 (20090416) __
> > > 
> > >  The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

2009-04-17 Thread SakeFox
Hooray, another internet fight brought to you by the valve mailing list

Clyde cide wrote:
> Whos raging? You going off ore than any one. Your a pantload, thats
> obvious Even the allied modders forum admins flamed your stupid Idea. If
> you cant get it to fly there what do expect from any place else
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:55 PM, msleeper  wrote:
>
>   
>> It's morons like you - not f0rkz and me - who bring it up every single
>> time I post an email here. It's morons like you that have nothing better
>> to do with your time than RGG over it almost TWO MONTHS after
>> the fact. I know that high school is almost out for the summer so you'll
>> have plenty of time to rage about it when you're not playing Halo, but
>> the grown ups are trying to be useful here, so take your pointless and
>> irrelevent bitching back to the Steam forums. I don't think anyone has
>> made a thread about it/me in a few weeks so now is your time to shine.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:17 -0400, Clyde cide wrote:
>> 
>>> Your lame lan clan got a black eye over him, guess you should get over it
>>>   
>> or
>> 
>>> expell him. either way he brought shame to your people so uhh pfft
>>>
>>> 2009/4/16 f0rkz 
>>>
>>>   
 I decided to point out how much of an idiot people are who are still
 going on about this.  Get the fuck over it.

 f0rkz

 On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:40 PM, matan nov wrote:

 
> Making honeypot servers for enthusiastic players is what killed
> jesus in the
> first place.
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:10 AM, msleeper 
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Writing useful plugins and not uploading them to AM makes the baby
>> jesus
>> cry.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:01 -0400, "[ЯтR] The-/
>> 
>>> We made a plugin if a team wins X rounds in a row it will auto
>>> scramble,
>>> don't think its been posted in the sm forums, Ill try to get the
>>> author
>>>   
>> to.
>> 
>>> Alex wrote:
>>>   
 Is there a cvar or something that I can use to scramble the teams
 after
 so many rounds or so many teamswitches? I cannot find any
 
>> sourcemod
>> 
 plugins for this.

 Thanks


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Re: [hlds] Half-Life 1 Engine Update released

2009-04-17 Thread Prof. Safto Rangen
It would be nice to know which exploits were fixed. Though my interest was
gone by 50% when I found out that TFC exploits still work. ;)

2009/4/17 pizzahut 

> He wouldn't need to tell how an exploit is done.
> Also how can you beta test the client, other than general stability, if you
> don't know what is fixed.
> Finally, people who want to use exploits can do so anyway, there's even a
> list at TFC forum which bugs there still are.
> 2009/4/17 Saul Rennison 
>
> > No because then you'd be able to use the exploits before the beta goes
> > mainstream.
> >
> > 2009/4/17 pizzahut 
> >
> > > 2009/4/16 Alfred Reynolds alf...@valvesoftware.com
> > >
> > > > There is also a client piece to this beta now, so if you run your
> Steam
> > > > client with "-beta hlds0319" on the command line you will get it. The
> > > client
> > > > piece fixes a couple exploits in the game engine.
> > >
> > > Could you give a pointer which exploits have been fixed?
> >
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Re: [hlds] TF2 Team Scramble after X rounds.

2009-04-17 Thread 1nsane
It's OK! It's semi amusing.

2009/4/17 SakeFox 

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> Clyde cide wrote:
> > Whos raging? You going off ore than any one. Your a pantload, thats
> > obvious Even the allied modders forum admins flamed your stupid Idea.
> If
> > you cant get it to fly there what do expect from any place else
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:55 PM, msleeper 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> It's morons like you - not f0rkz and me - who bring it up every single
> >> time I post an email here. It's morons like you that have nothing better
> >> to do with your time than RGG over it almost TWO MONTHS after
> >> the fact. I know that high school is almost out for the summer so you'll
> >> have plenty of time to rage about it when you're not playing Halo, but
> >> the grown ups are trying to be useful here, so take your pointless and
> >> irrelevent bitching back to the Steam forums. I don't think anyone has
> >> made a thread about it/me in a few weeks so now is your time to shine.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:17 -0400, Clyde cide wrote:
> >>
> >>> Your lame lan clan got a black eye over him, guess you should get over
> it
> >>>
> >> or
> >>
> >>> expell him. either way he brought shame to your people so uhh pfft
> >>>
> >>> 2009/4/16 f0rkz 
> >>>
> >>>
>  I decided to point out how much of an idiot people are who are still
>  going on about this.  Get the fuck over it.
> 
>  f0rkz
> 
>  On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:40 PM, matan nov wrote:
> 
> 
> > Making honeypot servers for enthusiastic players is what killed
> > jesus in the
> > first place.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:10 AM, msleeper 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Writing useful plugins and not uploading them to AM makes the baby
> >> jesus
> >> cry.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:01 -0400, "[ЯтR] The-/
> >>
> >>> We made a plugin if a team wins X rounds in a row it will auto
> >>> scramble,
> >>> don't think its been posted in the sm forums, Ill try to get the
> >>> author
> >>>
> >> to.
> >>
> >>> Alex wrote:
> >>>
>  Is there a cvar or something that I can use to scramble the teams
>  after
>  so many rounds or so many teamswitches? I cannot find any
> 
> >> sourcemod
> >>
>  plugins for this.
> 
>  Thanks
> 
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