[hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem about that. Located on North of France, I've a 24ms ping on CSS w/ 24 players.I run 10 TS3 Servers, 3 CSS, 1 TF2 and 3 MC Servers. No lag, also when full. I also have all my websites who run on the server, and I haven't any problem. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
Thank you very much, how much CPU/RAM does that use? Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:52:03 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem about that. Located on North of France, I've a 24ms ping on CSS w/ 24 players.I run 10 TS3 Servers, 3 CSS, 1 TF2 and 3 MC Servers. No lag, also when full. I also have all my websites who run on the server, and I haven't any problem. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
The Source Engine didn't use so many ressources. When empty, I've that stats result on game console: (no tickrate defined)CPU In (KB/s) Out (KB/s) Uptime Map changes FPS Players Connects0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 66.780 0 and there is the top SSH command result: for srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM after 83:41.12 uptime (no addons / plugins installed)for minecraft, now: 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM after 124:21.47 uptime (-Xmx2G defined to java) The KS24G is really usefull to host game servers with a good average usage. Also to sell / rent gameservers :)by a HTTP monitoring, the dedicated server was down 3h 58m after 541 days (2010/10/28) (checked every 30 mins). --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:02:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thank you very much, how much CPU/RAM does that use? Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:52:03 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem about that. Located on North of France, I've a 24ms ping on CSS w/ 24 players.I run 10 TS3 Servers, 3 CSS, 1 TF2 and 3 MC Servers. No lag, also when full. I also have all my websites who run on the server, and I haven't any problem. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
oh sorry, the enters didn't work =/ SSH Top command: - Srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM / 83:41.12 Uptime as no addons / plugins (no tickrate defined, 66.78FPS)- Minecraft (craftbukkit w/ plugins) : 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM / 124:21.47 uptime (var -Xmx2G defined on java) (Java packets loose are possible) Ks 24g can host many game servers, also as provider. Uptime of my server is 99.96% ( 3h58m down after 541d as every 30m checkup ) --- Hugo From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:15:55 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi The Source Engine didn't use so many ressources. When empty, I've that stats result on game console: (no tickrate defined)CPUIn (KB/s) Out (KB/s) Uptime Map changes FPS Players Connects0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 66.780 0 and there is the top SSH command result: for srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM after 83:41.12 uptime (no addons / plugins installed)for minecraft, now: 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM after 124:21.47 uptime (-Xmx2G defined to java) The KS24G is really usefull to host game servers with a good average usage. Also to sell / rent gameservers :)by a HTTP monitoring, the dedicated server was down 3h 58m after 541 days (2010/10/28) (checked every 30 mins). --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:02:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thank you very much, how much CPU/RAM does that use? Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:52:03 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem about that. Located on North of France, I've a 24ms ping on CSS w/ 24 players.I run 10 TS3 Servers, 3 CSS, 1 TF2 and 3 MC Servers. No lag, also when full. I also have all my websites who run on the server, and I haven't any problem. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
So there is potential for 15+ 32 slot hlds servers? From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:21:51 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi oh sorry, the enters didn't work =/ SSH Top command: - Srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM / 83:41.12 Uptime as no addons / plugins (no tickrate defined, 66.78FPS)- Minecraft (craftbukkit w/ plugins) : 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM / 124:21.47 uptime (var -Xmx2G defined on java) (Java packets loose are possible) Ks 24g can host many game servers, also as provider. Uptime of my server is 99.96% ( 3h58m down after 541d as every 30m checkup ) --- Hugo From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:15:55 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi The Source Engine didn't use so many ressources. When empty, I've that stats result on game console: (no tickrate defined)CPUIn (KB/s) Out (KB/s) Uptime Map changes FPS Players Connects0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 66.780 0 and there is the top SSH command result: for srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM after 83:41.12 uptime (no addons / plugins installed)for minecraft, now: 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM after 124:21.47 uptime (-Xmx2G defined to java) The KS24G is really usefull to host game servers with a good average usage. Also to sell / rent gameservers :)by a HTTP monitoring, the dedicated server was down 3h 58m after 541 days (2010/10/28) (checked every 30 mins). --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:02:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thank you very much, how much CPU/RAM does that use? Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:52:03 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem about that. Located on North of France, I've a 24ms ping on CSS w/ 24 players.I run 10 TS3 Servers, 3 CSS, 1 TF2 and 3 MC Servers. No lag, also when full. I also have all my websites who run on the server, and I haven't any problem. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
Hi, I also have a server at OVH kimsufi on a I7 950 with 24GB and 2TB of hard drive, I currently have 22 server on killing floor of 6 to 30 slots,I can tell you that the dedicated server running very well and I can make more server, it was just to tell you that you can do 20 servers maybe more on any types of games with a server powerful x) 2012/4/21 Benedict Glover neobened...@hotmail.co.uk So there is potential for 15+ 32 slot hlds servers? From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:21:51 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi oh sorry, the enters didn't work =/ SSH Top command: - Srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM / 83:41.12 Uptime as no addons / plugins (no tickrate defined, 66.78FPS)- Minecraft (craftbukkit w/ plugins) : 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM / 124:21.47 uptime (var -Xmx2G defined on java) (Java packets loose are possible) Ks 24g can host many game servers, also as provider. Uptime of my server is 99.96% ( 3h58m down after 541d as every 30m checkup ) --- Hugo From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:15:55 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi The Source Engine didn't use so many ressources. When empty, I've that stats result on game console: (no tickrate defined)CPUIn (KB/s) Out (KB/s) Uptime Map changes FPS Players Connects0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 66.780 0 and there is the top SSH command result: for srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM after 83:41.12 uptime (no addons / plugins installed)for minecraft, now: 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM after 124:21.47 uptime (-Xmx2G defined to java) The KS24G is really usefull to host game servers with a good average usage. Also to sell / rent gameservers :)by a HTTP monitoring, the dedicated server was down 3h 58m after 541 days (2010/10/28) (checked every 30 mins). --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:02:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thank you very much, how much CPU/RAM does that use? Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:52:03 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem about that. Located on North of France, I've a 24ms ping on CSS w/ 24 players.I run 10 TS3 Servers, 3 CSS, 1 TF2 and 3 MC Servers. No lag, also when full. I also have all my websites who run on the server, and I haven't any problem. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
15+ may be too many, I think. Or, if there is ONLY hlds servers running, it will be ok.But, if you also have MC servers, I don't think so. Here is, as I think, what can be the maximum on the server:5 to 10 hlds servers (12 max)5 MC servers as 2GO (or) 3x (2 to 3G) + 1x 10Gup to 10 TS3 Servers of 512 slots (warning; since monday, TS USA allow only 1 server by dedicated server)Apache2 + php + other stuffs think to secure the server when you get it, because the default domain (ksXX.kimsufi.com) is often scrawled by bots If you want any help, I'm available by this mail (or) via my private, just by mailing me i'll give you the adress). And oh yes, the tech support (in case of a physical incident / problem / ask) is really reactive. Also, they answer by twitter if you want to ;) as playing on MC, I haven't lags. As hlds servers (source engine), my ping is about 12ms, and 61ms if the servers are full. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:35:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi So there is potential for 15+ 32 slot hlds servers? From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:21:51 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi oh sorry, the enters didn't work =/ SSH Top command: - Srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM / 83:41.12 Uptime as no addons / plugins (no tickrate defined, 66.78FPS)- Minecraft (craftbukkit w/ plugins) : 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM / 124:21.47 uptime (var -Xmx2G defined on java) (Java packets loose are possible) Ks 24g can host many game servers, also as provider. Uptime of my server is 99.96% ( 3h58m down after 541d as every 30m checkup ) --- Hugo From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:15:55 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi The Source Engine didn't use so many ressources. When empty, I've that stats result on game console: (no tickrate defined)CPUIn (KB/s) Out (KB/s) Uptime Map changes FPS Players Connects0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 66.780 0 and there is the top SSH command result: for srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM after 83:41.12 uptime (no addons / plugins installed)for minecraft, now: 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM after 124:21.47 uptime (-Xmx2G defined to java) The KS24G is really usefull to host game servers with a good average usage. Also to sell / rent gameservers :)by a HTTP monitoring, the dedicated server was down 3h 58m after 541 days (2010/10/28) (checked every 30 mins). --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:02:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thank you very much, how much CPU/RAM does that use? Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:52:03 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem about that. Located on North of France, I've a 24ms ping on CSS w/ 24 players.I run 10 TS3 Servers, 3 CSS, 1 TF2 and 3 MC Servers. No lag, also when full. I also have all my websites who run on the server, and I haven't any problem. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
Thanks to everyone, a few more things to finish: Any chance I could have the IP of your tf2 server so I can try it out? Email it directly to neobened...@hotmail.co.uk if you don't want to put it here. How many slots do you have per MC server? From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:43:39 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi 15+ may be too many, I think. Or, if there is ONLY hlds servers running, it will be ok.But, if you also have MC servers, I don't think so. Here is, as I think, what can be the maximum on the server:5 to 10 hlds servers (12 max)5 MC servers as 2GO (or) 3x (2 to 3G) + 1x 10Gup to 10 TS3 Servers of 512 slots (warning; since monday, TS USA allow only 1 server by dedicated server)Apache2 + php + other stuffs think to secure the server when you get it, because the default domain (ksXX.kimsufi.com) is often scrawled by bots If you want any help, I'm available by this mail (or) via my private, just by mailing me i'll give you the adress). And oh yes, the tech support (in case of a physical incident / problem / ask) is really reactive. Also, they answer by twitter if you want to ;) as playing on MC, I haven't lags. As hlds servers (source engine), my ping is about 12ms, and 61ms if the servers are full. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:35:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi So there is potential for 15+ 32 slot hlds servers? From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:21:51 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi oh sorry, the enters didn't work =/ SSH Top command: - Srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM / 83:41.12 Uptime as no addons / plugins (no tickrate defined, 66.78FPS)- Minecraft (craftbukkit w/ plugins) : 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM / 124:21.47 uptime (var -Xmx2G defined on java) (Java packets loose are possible) Ks 24g can host many game servers, also as provider. Uptime of my server is 99.96% ( 3h58m down after 541d as every 30m checkup ) --- Hugo From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:15:55 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi The Source Engine didn't use so many ressources. When empty, I've that stats result on game console: (no tickrate defined)CPUIn (KB/s) Out (KB/s) Uptime Map changes FPS Players Connects0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 66.780 0 and there is the top SSH command result: for srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM after 83:41.12 uptime (no addons / plugins installed)for minecraft, now: 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM after 124:21.47 uptime (-Xmx2G defined to java) The KS24G is really usefull to host game servers with a good average usage. Also to sell / rent gameservers :)by a HTTP monitoring, the dedicated server was down 3h 58m after 541 days (2010/10/28) (checked every 30 mins). --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:02:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thank you very much, how much CPU/RAM does that use? Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:52:03 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem about that. Located on North of France, I've a 24ms ping on CSS w/ 24 players.I run 10 TS3 Servers, 3 CSS, 1 TF2 and 3 MC Servers. No lag, also when full. I also have all my websites who run on the server, and I haven't any problem. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
I can start a server for you on any game of the srcds / hlds, just tell me what :pthe MC servers on my dedicated are 2G @ 10 slots, 2G @ 15 slots, 4G @ 30 slots and 10G @ 120 slots (only ~25 used) --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:46:32 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thanks to everyone, a few more things to finish: Any chance I could have the IP of your tf2 server so I can try it out? Email it directly to neobened...@hotmail.co.uk if you don't want to put it here. How many slots do you have per MC server? From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:43:39 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi 15+ may be too many, I think. Or, if there is ONLY hlds servers running, it will be ok.But, if you also have MC servers, I don't think so. Here is, as I think, what can be the maximum on the server:5 to 10 hlds servers (12 max)5 MC servers as 2GO (or) 3x (2 to 3G) + 1x 10Gup to 10 TS3 Servers of 512 slots (warning; since monday, TS USA allow only 1 server by dedicated server)Apache2 + php + other stuffs think to secure the server when you get it, because the default domain (ksXX.kimsufi.com) is often scrawled by bots If you want any help, I'm available by this mail (or) via my private, just by mailing me i'll give you the adress). And oh yes, the tech support (in case of a physical incident / problem / ask) is really reactive. Also, they answer by twitter if you want to ;) as playing on MC, I haven't lags. As hlds servers (source engine), my ping is about 12ms, and 61ms if the servers are full. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:35:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi So there is potential for 15+ 32 slot hlds servers? From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:21:51 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi oh sorry, the enters didn't work =/ SSH Top command: - Srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM / 83:41.12 Uptime as no addons / plugins (no tickrate defined, 66.78FPS)- Minecraft (craftbukkit w/ plugins) : 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM / 124:21.47 uptime (var -Xmx2G defined on java) (Java packets loose are possible) Ks 24g can host many game servers, also as provider. Uptime of my server is 99.96% ( 3h58m down after 541d as every 30m checkup ) --- Hugo From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:15:55 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi The Source Engine didn't use so many ressources. When empty, I've that stats result on game console: (no tickrate defined)CPUIn (KB/s) Out (KB/s) Uptime Map changes FPS Players Connects0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 66.780 0 and there is the top SSH command result: for srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM after 83:41.12 uptime (no addons / plugins installed)for minecraft, now: 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM after 124:21.47 uptime (-Xmx2G defined to java) The KS24G is really usefull to host game servers with a good average usage. Also to sell / rent gameservers :)by a HTTP monitoring, the dedicated server was down 3h 58m after 541 days (2010/10/28) (checked every 30 mins). --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:02:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thank you very much, how much CPU/RAM does that use? Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:52:03 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem about that. Located on North of France, I've a 24ms ping on CSS w/ 24 players.I run 10 TS3 Servers, 3 CSS, 1 TF2 and 3 MC Servers. No lag, also when full. I also have all my websites who run on the server, and I haven't any problem. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben
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Ah if the server isn't on don't worry. Thanks for the information hugo :) Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:49:11 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I can start a server for you on any game of the srcds / hlds, just tell me what :pthe MC servers on my dedicated are 2G @ 10 slots, 2G @ 15 slots, 4G @ 30 slots and 10G @ 120 slots (only ~25 used) --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:46:32 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thanks to everyone, a few more things to finish: Any chance I could have the IP of your tf2 server so I can try it out? Email it directly to neobened...@hotmail.co.uk if you don't want to put it here. How many slots do you have per MC server? From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:43:39 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi 15+ may be too many, I think. Or, if there is ONLY hlds servers running, it will be ok.But, if you also have MC servers, I don't think so. Here is, as I think, what can be the maximum on the server:5 to 10 hlds servers (12 max)5 MC servers as 2GO (or) 3x (2 to 3G) + 1x 10Gup to 10 TS3 Servers of 512 slots (warning; since monday, TS USA allow only 1 server by dedicated server)Apache2 + php + other stuffs think to secure the server when you get it, because the default domain (ksXX.kimsufi.com) is often scrawled by bots If you want any help, I'm available by this mail (or) via my private, just by mailing me i'll give you the adress). And oh yes, the tech support (in case of a physical incident / problem / ask) is really reactive. Also, they answer by twitter if you want to ;) as playing on MC, I haven't lags. As hlds servers (source engine), my ping is about 12ms, and 61ms if the servers are full. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:35:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi So there is potential for 15+ 32 slot hlds servers? From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:21:51 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi oh sorry, the enters didn't work =/ SSH Top command: - Srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM / 83:41.12 Uptime as no addons / plugins (no tickrate defined, 66.78FPS)- Minecraft (craftbukkit w/ plugins) : 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM / 124:21.47 uptime (var -Xmx2G defined on java) (Java packets loose are possible) Ks 24g can host many game servers, also as provider. Uptime of my server is 99.96% ( 3h58m down after 541d as every 30m checkup ) --- Hugo From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:15:55 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi The Source Engine didn't use so many ressources. When empty, I've that stats result on game console: (no tickrate defined)CPUIn (KB/s) Out (KB/s) Uptime Map changes FPS Players Connects0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 66.780 0 and there is the top SSH command result: for srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM after 83:41.12 uptime (no addons / plugins installed)for minecraft, now: 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM after 124:21.47 uptime (-Xmx2G defined to java) The KS24G is really usefull to host game servers with a good average usage. Also to sell / rent gameservers :)by a HTTP monitoring, the dedicated server was down 3h 58m after 541 days (2010/10/28) (checked every 30 mins). --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:02:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thank you very much, how much CPU/RAM does that use? Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:52:03 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem about that. Located on North of France, I've a 24ms ping on CSS w/ 24 players.I run 10 TS3 Servers, 3 CSS, 1 TF2 and 3 MC Servers. No lag, also when full. I also have all my websites who run on the server, and I haven't any problem. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
One tip I'll give you, is if you're going to run minecraft, which is a resource hog, run it with nice -n1 For some reason, this DOESN'T seem to negatively affect minecraft to any detectable degree, probably because it runs at 20 ticks per second and so has more wiggle room in the scheduling -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux- boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Benedict Glover Sent: 21 April 2012 21:52 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Ah if the server isn't on don't worry. Thanks for the information hugo :) Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:49:11 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I can start a server for you on any game of the srcds / hlds, just tell me what :pthe MC servers on my dedicated are 2G @ 10 slots, 2G @ 15 slots, 4G @ 30 slots and 10G @ 120 slots (only ~25 used) --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:46:32 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thanks to everyone, a few more things to finish: Any chance I could have the IP of your tf2 server so I can try it out? Email it directly to neobened...@hotmail.co.uk if you don't want to put it here. How many slots do you have per MC server? From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:43:39 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi 15+ may be too many, I think. Or, if there is ONLY hlds servers running, it will be ok.But, if you also have MC servers, I don't think so. Here is, as I think, what can be the maximum on the server:5 to 10 hlds servers (12 max)5 MC servers as 2GO (or) 3x (2 to 3G) + 1x 10Gup to 10 TS3 Servers of 512 slots (warning; since monday, TS USA allow only 1 server by dedicated server)Apache2 + php + other stuffs think to secure the server when you get it, because the default domain (ksXX.kimsufi.com) is often scrawled by bots If you want any help, I'm available by this mail (or) via my private, just by mailing me i'll give you the adress). And oh yes, the tech support (in case of a physical incident / problem / ask) is really reactive. Also, they answer by twitter if you want to ;) as playing on MC, I haven't lags. As hlds servers (source engine), my ping is about 12ms, and 61ms if the servers are full. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:35:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi So there is potential for 15+ 32 slot hlds servers? From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:21:51 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi oh sorry, the enters didn't work =/ SSH Top command: - Srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM / 83:41.12 Uptime as no addons / plugins (no tickrate defined, 66.78FPS)- Minecraft (craftbukkit w/ plugins) : 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM / 124:21.47 uptime (var - Xmx2G defined on java) (Java packets loose are possible) Ks 24g can host many game servers, also as provider. Uptime of my server is 99.96% ( 3h58m down after 541d as every 30m checkup ) --- Hugo From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:15:55 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi The Source Engine didn't use so many ressources. When empty, I've that stats result on game console: (no tickrate defined)CPUIn (KB/s) Out (KB/s) Uptime Map changes FPS Players Connects0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 66.780 0 and there is the top SSH command result: for srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM after 83:41.12 uptime (no addons / plugins installed)for minecraft, now: 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM after 124:21.47 uptime (-Xmx2G defined to java) The KS24G is really usefull to host game servers with a good average usage. Also to sell / rent gameservers :)by a HTTP monitoring, the dedicated server was down 3h 58m after 541 days (2010/10/28) (checked every 30 mins). --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:02:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thank you very much, how much CPU/RAM does that use? Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:52:03 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem
Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
Killing floor is an extremely poor performance metric. My i5 laptop could host 16 or so of them with little difficulty. On 4/21/2012 4:43 PM, Anthony wrote: Hi, I also have a server at OVH kimsufi on a I7 950 with 24GB and 2TB of hard drive, I currently have 22 server on killing floor of 6 to 30 slots,I can tell you that the dedicated server running very well and I can make more server, it was just to tell you that you can do 20 servers maybe more on any types of games with a server powerful x) 2012/4/21 Benedict Gloverneobened...@hotmail.co.uk So there is potential for 15+ 32 slot hlds servers? From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:21:51 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi oh sorry, the enters didn't work =/ SSH Top command: - Srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM / 83:41.12 Uptime as no addons / plugins (no tickrate defined, 66.78FPS)- Minecraft (craftbukkit w/ plugins) : 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM / 124:21.47 uptime (var -Xmx2G defined on java) (Java packets loose are possible) Ks 24g can host many game servers, also as provider. Uptime of my server is 99.96% ( 3h58m down after 541d as every 30m checkup ) --- Hugo From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:15:55 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi The Source Engine didn't use so many ressources. When empty, I've that stats result on game console: (no tickrate defined)CPUIn (KB/s) Out (KB/s) Uptime Map changes FPS Players Connects0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 66.780 0 and there is the top SSH command result: for srcds_linux : 2% CPU / 0.4 MEM after 83:41.12 uptime (no addons / plugins installed)for minecraft, now: 3% CPU / 8.5% MEM after 124:21.47 uptime (-Xmx2G defined to java) The KS24G is really usefull to host game servers with a good average usage. Also to sell / rent gameservers :)by a HTTP monitoring, the dedicated server was down 3h 58m after 541 days (2010/10/28) (checked every 30 mins). --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:02:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Thank you very much, how much CPU/RAM does that use? Ben From: balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:52:03 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem about that. Located on North of France, I've a 24ms ping on CSS w/ 24 players.I run 10 TS3 Servers, 3 CSS, 1 TF2 and 3 MC Servers. No lag, also when full. I also have all my websites who run on the server, and I haven't any problem. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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I run my server from Kimsufi, and have never had any issues. The connection is good (1Gbit), and I run 2 Minecraft servers, 1 TF2 server, a TeamSpeak server and 3 websites with nginx, no hiccups or issues, with debian. I found their support to be slightly inefficient though, our server got hacked once (one of the admins got a keylogger), and it took them several days to get it back up, even though we called them several times, they said it would 'be back within 24hrs' 3 times. Apart from that, everything is good. Sent from my Windows 7 Phone From: Benedict Glover Sent: 21/04/2012 20:49 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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I've always used CentOS, is there any reason to use debian over it (seems everyone uses debian)? Ben From: sr...@dot.net Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 00:16:03 +0100 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I run my server from Kimsufi, and have never had any issues. The connection is good (1Gbit), and I run 2 Minecraft servers, 1 TF2 server, a TeamSpeak server and 3 websites with nginx, no hiccups or issues, with debian. I found their support to be slightly inefficient though, our server got hacked once (one of the admins got a keylogger), and it took them several days to get it back up, even though we called them several times, they said it would 'be back within 24hrs' 3 times. Apart from that, everything is good. Sent from my Windows 7 Phone From: Benedict Glover Sent: 21/04/2012 20:49 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi
Thats putting a bit too many eggs in the same basket! xD From: Hugo R. balkey...@live.fr To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:52:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi Hi, I have a debian x64 24G at Kimsufi since 1.4 years, and i've no problem about that. Located on North of France, I've a 24ms ping on CSS w/ 24 players.I run 10 TS3 Servers, 3 CSS, 1 TF2 and 3 MC Servers. No lag, also when full. I also have all my websites who run on the server, and I haven't any problem. --- Hugo From: neobened...@hotmail.co.uk To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: [hlds_linux] Kimsurfi I'm looking for a cheap dedi near the UK which can run a web server, MC server and a tf2 server. What sort of performance could I get out of the 24G on this? (How many TF2 servers/slots) http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ Ben ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
